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We beg to differ then Still no answer on our Danish owners freedom of movement though. I for one, am glad I still have a club to support and the EU indirectly made that happen! Just think how #Notts could be with a freedom to choose the best undiscovered talent throughout the EU! But hey..... Oh councils... Thurrock was Tory controlled and look what happened with going bankrupt.... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-67558911 I will continue to fight Brexit and as @Ohh Tommy Johnson continually points out, better than me, everything is a "trade off". There is no such thing as UK's "cakei-sm" in a global world. My mother died during Covid, we stuck by the rules for her funeral...meanwhile Boris and his cronies partied in #10. I will NEVER forgive them for that Here, here @Ohh Tommy Johnson

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Thanks @Robbie for the response @Ohh Tommy Johnsonhas pointed out, several times, the environment the UK has to fit in, has in reality to RESPECT international law, whether it be at The United Nations, the ECHR, the Intl Criminal Court. For example, flights into and out of the UK are covered by international law. UK law over riding international law is a non starter in a global world. Leigh on Sea shellfish beds... I am still clueless as to how this is a Brexit benefit, which was my original question. "If the estuary needs to be cleaned up, then this should begin with haste"... I hope a new Labour government makes the water companies pay for it themselves, rather than our water bills being increased as the water companies still dividend out of the UK their profits! They are taking vast amounts of money out of the UK, how is that OK? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-67132803 On Blue fin tuna, only a very small number of licences have been granted by the UK. This is not a major fisheries issue. My other question on the Danish Brothers freedom of movement remains to be answered! "or the freedom of movement question that brought to us our Danish owners...instead we could have been sold to a consortium with a convicted fraudster... but as a UK fraudster, would that be OK by you?" Totally agree with @Ohh Tommy Johnson on his commentary: "The trouble with populism is that everything is boiled down to simple vacuous slogans - 'Make America Great Again', 'Take back control', 'Independent Sovereign Country'. What do the actually mean? Populism creates in groups and out groups and treats everything in simple binary terms. This has been the case ever since Girolamo Savonarola in 15th century Florence. It always eventually fails because it doesn't deal with the nuance. Brexit is hugely nuanced and complex and can't be dealt with in simple terms. Until Brexiteers realise that we can't move forwards." On @Robbie's point on Kenya "Kenya for instance, their fruit and veg industry is growing, we already buy a growing number of their produce. That trade with Kenya is going to expand and it's not just Kenya, there are many Countries we can buy foodstuffs from at lower prices than the EU can offer." Our main import (on an existing EU "rollover" agreement) from Kenya are flowers. I want to adhere to the highest EU food standards, which you may well remember Michael Gove giving his guarantee: https://www.thepoke.com/2020/10/14/2018-michael-gove-guaranteeing-food-import-standards-hasnt-aged-well/ Tell you what, he lied! The Australian and NZ trade deals have lowered standards and put UK farmers at risk! How is that looking after UK agriculture https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/watch-australians-mock-uk-trade-deal/ "Chipping in, his co-host jovially told Stefanovic off for ‘being so hard on the Brits’, saying that the UK also offered up ‘Spice Girl CDs and a nice cup of English breakfast tea’. Turning to the Australian Resources Minister Matt Canavan, who was appearing down the line from Canberra, Stefanovic challenged him to name ‘one good export from the UK’. Smirking, Canavan said ‘It’s hard isn’t it. Peas? Pease pies? I don’t know, it’s very hard.’ He went on to say that actually, the deal was ‘about what we sell to them, so it’s a good thing for us’." The UK government has embarrassed us on the world stage! The cost of freight , CO2 emissions, agricultural produce from Africa is not the complete answer. With Russia returning as a world global threat, how is reliance on far flung places strategically good to feed the UK population. No amount of "flag" waving is going to alter this point!

Hey @Robbie I hear what you say but I am genuinely interested in what you have to say to the answer of "Not being disrespectful, when you are not willing to answer my Leigh on Sea question, nor whether it is right for the UK to respect international law, or the freedom of movement question that brought to us our Danish owners"

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Hey @Robbie Not being disrespectful, when you are not willing to answer my Leigh on Sea question, nor whether it is right for the UK to respect international law, or the freedom of movement question that brought to us our Danish owners...instead we could have been sold to a consortium with a convicted fraudster... but as a UK fraudster, would that be OK by you? @Ohh Tommy Johnson has given an intelligent and comprehensive response. How are the UK borders stronger with our own sovereignty?

Hey @Robbie Is this you by that bus!

Sorry @Robbie "Sorry mate. I don't have to explain anything"... I asked a specific question on Leigh on Sea. Surely it's respectful for you to answer! "The debate was won and lost leading up to the EU referendum in 2016" https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jan/31/brexit-lies-tory-billionaire-guy-hands-uk-eu-economy Are you comfortable with the "Brexit lies", Vote Leave breaking Electoral Rules or the choice, as of democracy. to change its mind? "castigating this government for not fully exploiting the benefits of us being free to make our own decisions." So how does Brexit benefit you personally and the UK as a country. Australia are laughing at us at the "trade deal" destroying UK agriculture. UK has to respect international law, do you agree that? "but the EU must adhere with our standards too. Not dictate their own." UK has to respect EU standards if we are to export to them. Would you be happy with EFTA free trade regulations?

C'mon @Robbie "Byline times, a hard left, EU loving organization with an agenda."..... where have you got that from? GB News, The Express You are obviously happy to pay more tax as HMRC has reduced tax revenues with all these companies moving to the EU! I'm still waiting to hear from you what Brexit benefits are derived from the Leigh on Sea shellfish! Perhaps you can explain in greater detail As regards polling surveys for the EU Parliament...thought Brexiteers deemed the EU anti democratic..... funny that

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