Financial shenanigans surrounding transfers of young players?

[Piethagoram]

 

[Robbie]

And the rich clubs get the best young players that they can play for their first team and those players are not included in the declared 25 man squad.

so their squad is bigger than their opponents and that fact alone gives the rich clubs another unfair advantage.

[KB1862]

I've been keeping a close eye on this "PSR deadline" situation that's been going on and honestly I don't see an issue with it. 

Clubs make a pure profit on selling their young players so if a club comes in to buy one of them and is willing to pay an inflated price then it's not the problem of the selling club. 

I think it's a good thing that clubs like Villa, Newcastle and Everton who are involved in this situation have managed to find this loophole. Newcastle and Aston Villa, despite making the Champions League (Newcastle last season, Villa this season), were told they must sell players to be able to sign players. It seems like a very unfairly flawed situation that clubs can achieve such things only to have to sell their best players to avoid breaking FFP rules. 

The Premier League has been so much for this whole Profit and Sustainability rulings so if this loophole clubs have found allows them to maintain financial security avoiding breaking rules and making losses then why should they be concerned with it and intervene? The fact that the Premier League have come out and said they will impose a block on transfers if they believe the fee is inflated is ridiculous. As I mentioned earlier in this post, if a club wants to pay an inflated price then that's down to them. It should be the decision of a club and it's owners not by the Premier League.

It seems like the Premier League are starting to show their colours and favouring the "big 6" by investigating this. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cx724w5v641o

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c5111jg2r3yo

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cj7dk73p441o

As well as that article @Piethagoram posted about, here's a few others.

[liampie]

personally, i think if a club from league two wanted to sign a player from a premier league academy and they were able to do it where a fee would need to be agreed. like it is done the other way around, then the price should reflect them improving at the club. not what a premier league could may want.

premier league teams do pick off a lot of good young talent, some of which filters down once they have used them.

but you dont see many lower league teams getting good fees in return for the players they helped to become future stars, tribunals always favour the bigger clubs i feel.

[KB1862]

@liampie

I see your point and I agree with you that lower teams should be given good fees. Unfortunately bigger clubs, who have the money at their disposal, take advantage of lower league clubs need for money that's why they often get players cheaper than they perhaps should. They could always negotiate a deal and some clubs manage to secure this like I believe Birmingham got handed a fee due to Jude Bellingham winning the Champions League with Real Madrid. However, negotiating a deal could lead to a bigger club pulling out of the deal which means that money that was needed by the lower club they won't be able to get. 

Gary Lineker has told a story about his transfer to Everton many times on his podcasts. Clubs unable to agree a fee would have to go to a tribunal and each manager would have to make a case of what they believe is a fair value for a player. Howard Kendall, manager of Everton at the time, said that Lineker wasn't as good as they made out and he'd probably sit on the bench most of the time. Because of this Everton paid a lower price than it should have been. Afterwards Lineker started doubting his move to which Kendall reassured him that he was gonna be his main striker and he only said all that to pay a lower fee. 

[Chris]

Gary Linekar was signed to replace Andy Gray, who was a much loved figure at Everton. Gray left to re-sign for Aston Villa and in that same season, he arrived at Meadow Lane on loan. Colin Harvey played a big role in Everton paying £800,000 to Leicester City, which was a considerable fee for him.

Howard Kendall backed Linekar, who had already scored 15 goals before Christmas.

The Everton fans, however, didn't take to him until he had scored against Manchester United and Sheffield Wednesday later in the season. Even at £300,000, it wouldn't have been a bad deal. The tribunal did make it fairer, as the fee Barcelona paid was somewhat inflated by having done well at two clubs.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gary-lineker-howard-kendall-everton-19192018

Any tribunal decision on a youngsters fee should be a fair fee, clubs who are unhappy that a player goes on to be sold at a higher profit - sometimes don't take into consideration that players can only get better with time, facilities, better coaches and players.

[Robbie]

Another big point here is that the big clubs are taking a lot of the young talent even though they have no intention of playing them.

These young footballers are then farmed off to the lower divisions as loanees to make money from them.

Young players should be allowed to improve, as they used to do in the past, with the clubs where they learned their trade & would get lots of football time.

Players like David Needham & Brian Kilcline, who did their apprenticeship with Notts and went on to win Silverware with Forest (Needham) and Coventry (Kilcline).