The Race To Net Zero.

[Piethagoram]

The overriding issue here is cleaner air for all our citizens. EU countries are transitioning too away from coal.

[Robbie]

I think the overriding issue here is the spiraling cost of energy.

The threat of pensioners going cold this winter due to energy costs that are three times more than in the United States for example 

[Piethagoram]

The consequential issue then becomes excessive profiteering from the energy companies.

Why haven't windfall taxes been imposed to cover the cost of the winter fuel allowances?

 

[Robbie]

Just putting a windfall tax on energy companies isn't the answer. Prices will continue to spiral.

OFGEM, have to do their job and cap prices to the consumer at a reasonable level, so pensioners don't have to choose between heating their home or having enough to eat.

[Piethagoram]

Yes OFGEN need to be more aggressive. Perhaps a rise in fuel duty could help reinstate the winter fuel allowance, together with a windfall tax

[Piethagoram]

The cancelled coal mine proposal in Cumbria.... that coal wasn't suitable for coal burning UK power stations

[Robbie]

The cancelled coal mine has good quality coal that can be used in our steel industry, but unfortunately our steel industry will be non existent soon.

Our navy ships will have to be built abroad. What a shambles.

And China is flooding the market with cheap steel, where their steel industry is supplied by hundreds of their coalmines.

Like I said, the Chinese are laughing at us.

[Wheelbarrow repair man]

Net Zero? Never going to Happen, because China Russia and India won't stop using Fossil Fuels. Those countries along with others in Central America will keep pumping stuff into the Earth's Atmosphere and the only people who will Suffer are those in Western Countries like the UK, who's Governments persist in trying to reach an Unobtainable Goal of Net Zero, and being forced into paying More and More in Taxes. The Elites aren't bothered about Net Zero all they want is a Poor and Weak Population which they can Dominate and Control.

[Robbie]

@Wheelbarrow repair man. Totally agree, In the early sixties my mum would get up and make the coal fire in the sitting room, then make one in the lounge. The water was heated from a boiler behind the coal fire.

Some people had a coal fire in the kitchen which had an oven next to it. Later the coal was replaced by coke & an enclosed fire that was smokeless.

Now it is all gas heating and they want us all to have a heat pump eventually. But what people don't realise. With a coal fire you always had an independent source of heat. No one could switch your fire off. Coal was cheap because of competition & you could use wood or logs too. Now the government can have your gas & electricity switched off if they wanted. They have control.

The price of energy now is so extortionate & takes a big part of your income. But now the ability to have alternative sources of heat is being taken away. New houses don't have chimneys. Chimneys for open fires have been converted to gas flues.

But the government doesn't say anything about  the chemicals that are put in food to preserve it. Chemicals that are long term harmful.

[Piethagoram]

On 17/09/2024 at 12:21, Robbie said:

The cancelled coal mine has good quality coal that can be used in our steel industry

No, steel industry is moving / has moved to electric arc furnaces!

Where are you getting this info from?

[Robbie]

Oh dear. Not very environmentally friendly are these EAF furnaces.

"What are the hazards of electric arc furnaces?

The slag generated from the EAF process can contain toxic metals, which can be hazardous to human and environmental health".

Source Google 

And what happens when there's a power cut?