I am undecided, it depends on the quality and price.

Pre-season footage wasn't always the best, sometimes it was the connection and other times shaky hands.

First of all, Notts have put out a questionnaire about the stream. If you haven't answered it already, it's here: https://www.nottscountyfc.co.uk/news/2020/september/live-streaming-questionnaire-280920/

I'm delighted it's happening. For me it doesn't have to compete with Sky Sports, I'd be perfectly happy with a cheap and cheerful stream with a single camera. As long as the connection is stable I'm good. In terms of price, the club needs to raise money of course, but also shouldn't price people out. iFollow with video coverage now costs 150 pounds. That's gone up a bit, but is actually not a bad price when you consider that it includes 40+ matches home and away. I doubt a stream run by the club would be as cheap. Dover are charging 8 pounds for Saturday, but don't seem to be offering a season subscription. They could make more money selling tickets match-by-match, but they run the risk of viewer numbers falling off a cliff if they have a poor season.

8 pounds for each of the 22 home games would equate to 176 quid - if we round that down a bit (remembering that a couple of games will probably be on BT Sport), 150 pounds would seem feasible for the season. Would you be willing to pay that?

Selling virtual season tickets would fill the coffers quicker, but also carries risks - if we're in a position to let fans in again during the season, some might prefer to remain in their armchairs with their internet streams. In Germany, clubs can generally use around 20% of their capacity again, but even well-supported clubs aren't selling their full allocations of tickets.

On 01/10/2020 at 19:14, gtownjohnno said:

Definitely will be watching all the matches home and away.... Iam OK with joining the streams on my phone but could someone tell me how to transfer the stream from phone to smart TV.... I have a Sony Experia android phone.... 

It depends what format the feed is in. If the club use YouTube, the cast symbol should simply appear while you're playing it on your phone (providing you're signed in to the same YouTube account on your TV and you're using the same Wi-Fi. The cast symbol usually appears when you play a video on Chrome too. For me, the nuclear option is to play it on my laptop and connect that to the TV using an HDMI cable. Drop a message on here if you need help when the time comes and we can work it out.

Is paid streams via YouTube, actually a thing? I'm not sure.

If the club tied the games into the iFollow, it would add more value to the platform. There's regular interviews etc, however, I did stop mine due to them putting the best bits on YouTube. It devalued the service for me, I know others felt the same way.

I think they should put 1/2 minutes on at the most and, focus on plugging people to sub to iFollow in order to gain access to the full interview.

I don't mind paying for a virtual season ticket, provided the club make it clear beforehand what happens if/when we can return to watching games live. This doesn't mean, I wouldn't pay an additional fee to go back to the stands to support the club but it's got to be fair.

16 hours ago, DangerousSausage said:

First of all, Notts have put out a questionnaire about the stream. If you haven't answered it already, it's here: https://www.nottscountyfc.co.uk/news/2020/september/live-streaming-questionnaire-280920/

I'm delighted it's happening. For me it doesn't have to compete with Sky Sports, I'd be perfectly happy with a cheap and cheerful stream with a single camera. As long as the connection is stable I'm good. In terms of price, the club needs to raise money of course, but also shouldn't price people out. iFollow with video coverage now costs 150 pounds. That's gone up a bit, but is actually not a bad price when you consider that it includes 40+ matches home and away. I doubt a stream run by the club would be as cheap. Dover are charging 8 pounds for Saturday, but don't seem to be offering a season subscription. They could make more money selling tickets match-by-match, but they run the risk of viewer numbers falling off a cliff if they have a poor season.

8 pounds for each of the 22 home games would equate to 176 quid - if we round that down a bit (remembering that a couple of games will probably be on BT Sport), 150 pounds would seem feasible for the season. Would you be willing to pay that?

Selling virtual season tickets would fill the coffers quicker, but also carries risks - if we're in a position to let fans in again during the season, some might prefer to remain in their armchairs with their internet streams. In Germany, clubs can generally use around 20% of their capacity again, but even well-supported clubs aren't selling their full allocations of tickets.

It depends what format the feed is in. If the club use YouTube, the cast symbol should simply appear while you're playing it on your phone (providing you're signed in to the same YouTube account on your TV and you're using the same Wi-Fi. The cast symbol usually appears when you play a video on Chrome too. For me, the nuclear option is to play it on my laptop and connect that to the TV using an HDMI cable. Drop a message on here if you need help when the time comes and we can work it out.

Thanks Mate.... Hopefully sorted.... All will be revealed in 40 minutes..... 

Dover haven't exactly gone about their streaming service in the right way, quite a lot of people can't connect due to their database/server throwing errors. Those who have managed to get on are very lucky.

Hope everyone is going to try and get their money back.... If not I hope Dover are going to buy a lawnmower with their I'll gotten gains.... Lol

I've directly messaged them on Facebook, they've so far read my message(s) or, at least opened their inbox not long after 6pm.

I asked them to refund the fans, but they've been deleting post(s) and, comments.

Someone shared a screenshot of them claiming not to be issuing re-funds.

I'm contacting my bank on Monday, I'll get the refund that away, as I paid by card and, I didn't get what I paid for. I can understand that clubs need the money, but to fleece not just us but their own fans by providing a badly thought out idea. I don't believe they've got the resources to offer suitable streaming to a fan base of our size. They shouldn't have sold beyond what they can allocate. If they don't reply, I won't just be chasing a refund, I will be contacting various people and, complaining further.

It's not good enough, I refuse to allow them to have £8 for nothing.

Edited October 3, 20206 yr by super_ram

Well that's one example of how NOT to do it.

I didn't buy the stream yesterday. Partly because I wasn't sure I'd be at home, but also partly because I could see it coming. I remember all the "teething problems" iFollow and Player had, Dover are a semi-professional club with poor resources and this is the first time they've done it. All the same, lots of people have paid for a service they haven't received and I don't blame them for claiming a refund. Dover seem to have gone with the cheapest streaming service and it's a massive false economy. I trust Notts will be a bit more professional about it.