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Those are the thoughts of Former Manchester Untied and U.SA. Goal Keeper Tim Howard. In an Interview Howard has stated that he believes that Pep has Ruined Football by making all Teams believe that they can play, like his Manchester City side Possession Based High Pressing Brand of Football. The Trouble is a Vast Majority of Teams can't play that way. Guardiola has had immense success with his Expansive Style Of Football, however where he has the World Class Players to adapt to and carry out this style of Football poorer Teams haven't. So is this why  we are seeing more and more Defensive mistakes and Teams giving away silly goals? Because they think they can play Pep ball, when they actually can't?

The arrival of Luke Williams at the Lane saw Notts adapt the Possession High Pressing Brand Of Football, and like City the Magpies were successful playing this type of Football. And whereas Man City had Erling Haaland to score the Majority of their goals, Notts of course had Macca, who was ably supported by Cedwyn Scott.  And despite the scoring goals like they were going out of Fashion, Notts also let in  a high amount of Goals. Williams Mantra was OK the Opposition score 4 goals we'll score 5 and so it went on, and on a couple of Very Important occasions the matches against Boreham Wood in the National League Play Off Semi Final and again it the Play Off Final Notts almost came unstuck both times, falling behind in both games and only a Mammoth effort by the Players and William's Man Management skills finally Brought success  back to Lane with Notts returning to the Football League.

A Stroke of Luck or Genius by the Notts Recruitment team saw Macca arrive at the Lane, before Williams had been appointed, but would Notts have been has Successful without Macca's Goals? Maybe Not? So is that the way to Counter and Nullify Pep ball, by taking out his teams Top Scorer? After all City don't seem as Sharp in front of goal when Haaland isn't in the team, but City still win Games because they have players to fill the gap left by Haaland. Where as Teams with a Smaller Players Budget haven't, so out of necessity they have to change their style of play, if they Don't and stick to the same system they then seem to struggle. 

It would seem that last season Notts kept to the style Williams had so successfully adopted in the National League, and Despite the Thumping by Sutton on the opening day, the Possession type football bought Notts more success and they began winning games, however before Williams made the move to Swansea, the Cracks at Notts were beginning to show as teams had worked out how to Deal with the Magpies style of play and we all Know what Happened then. While still maintaining a Good amount of the style of Football Notts have had success with, new Head Coach Stuart Maynard now has a New Defensive Unit and he's managed to Mix things up and kept the opposition guessing. He may have to change things further, after the injuries to Jatta Scott and Jones have cut the Notts attack down to the Bone.

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I rate the best Managers that can build teams from scratch. That means identifying talent, not necessarily the most expensive talent, & building a team that can be a successful team no matter what league they are in.

There are lots of management talent in the football league that will hardly ever be recognised by the MS Media & the pundits, but week after week they work to make good teams out of sometimes ordinary players.

For me, managing a top premiership club doesn't mean they are the best managers. Being able to recruit the most expensive players from home & abroad, & have a full squad of players that any other club can only dream about makes their jobs very easy.

I'd like to see Guardiola or any  other top six PL manager take on a league 2 club with a limited budget for a couple of years and see how they get on. 

My guess is they won't fare any better than any other manager in the lower divisions.

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@Robbie

Regarding your comments I was thinking along the same lines and at this moment, I am writing a Topic which includes  some of your thoughts. Great Minds and all that. 

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@Wheelbarrow repair man.

Another thing.

When you see where Wrexham are now, top of league one with the finance they have, who was the actual National League manager and team of the year when Notts pushed Wrexham so hard.

Only one Manager & one team in my eyes and I don't have to mention both names. You know which Manager & what team I mean.

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I don’t think Pep has ruined football, nobody is forcing anyone to play a possession style but I can see why lots of teams adopt it. In theory it sounds too good to be true. You have more of the ball so you should be able to create more chances and by limiting the opposition's time on the ball they only have a short window to try and score.

I guess to counter that you now have teams that play a very aggressive press and look to take the ball of teams who play out from the back. And on the other end of the spectrum, you have teams who will set up to frustrate with a low-block. That can make things a tad boring, a bit like watching attack v defence instead of an actual match!

I do agree sometimes coaches ask too much of players that aren’t capable and it relies on bringing in the right players for the style. But that goes for any style of football really. And sometimes the coaches won’t admit it but they aren’t always good enough to coach it!

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I think Pep ruins football because he tends to bring in big players without giving younger ones a real chance. He signed that lad from Leeds, Kalvin Phillips I believe, and has virtually ruined his career, especially at the international level. He had the chance to bring Ollie Palmer into Manchester City’s first team but sold him to Chelsea. A good manager would see these players’ true potential and how they would fit in. Phillips was never going to work out at City.

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Sorry to disagree @Wheelbarrow repair man "however before Williams made the move to Swansea, the Cracks at Notts were beginning to show as teams had worked out how to Deal with the Magpies style of play and we all Know what Happened then. "

I believe this was more to do with the defenders being no where near the standard needed rather than the "style of play".

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i dont like pep all that much, i think hes overrated but i think he just follows what has been happening for years. i think managers who rely on spending silly sums or only wants to manage the best teams in whatever league just shows a lack of faith in their ability. could pep turn things around at manchester united without spending bid?

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You seem to be implying that we were promoted simply because of Langstaff's goals despite conceding a lot. In our last NL season we conceded 42 goals, with only Boreham Wood (40) letting in fewer. Baldwin aside, our defence was pretty much the same one we'd had throughout our time in the NL (and the one that was found out in L2), so we must have been doing something right tactically.

Football is about results and any manager is obliged to follow the tactics that deliver the best results. If you got better results by belting it up to the big man or standing on one leg, rest assured that teams would start doing that instead. Like any other system, you need to do it properly and have the right players for that style of play.

Things change. In the nineteenth century, passing the ball wasn't a thing - players would just boot the ball up the field and chase after it. So there were some perplexed looks when Queen's Park came south of the border with their passing game. A passing game that was quickly adopted when they started running rings around the English teams...

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I love the football that Notts play nowadays. When they are on their passing best, it can be very fast and slick. 

Quick passing movement up front can open up defenses & create chances. But passing from side to side at the back when the opposition has a high press is dangerous & can be costly.

Have you noticed we don't see a lot of offsides nowadays? That's all to do with the passing style that has taken over the game.

I can remember passing teams such as Liverpool, Man U  & Forest in the 60s, 70s & 80s used to pass it around, but most of the time the goalie would punt the ball or kick long from goal kicks most of the time.

I've said it before  & I'll say it again. I'd just like Notts to mix it up a bit. Try going long if playing short isn't working. Surprise opponents, don't let them settle combating just one style.

That's why Jatta in the team is so exciting because he gives Notts that extra option to do that.

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@Wheelbarrow repair man

Notts went route one last night and scored from it.

Bass to Jatta, get in. Pep will be having a hissy fit.:rollonfloorlaughing:

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