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The Kelle Roos Conundrum

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It’s fair to say Kelle Roos has come in for quiet a bit of criticism because more often than not he punches the crosses rather than catches them. This is seen as a weakness on his part, a lack of confidence. Could there be an alternative reason? Could it be that punching the ball (providing good distance is achieved) is less risky that catching? A spilled catch will most likely lead to a goal, whereas a punch is easier to execute and less risky if it goes wrong. Just a thought, controversial I know....

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  • Sheffield Pie
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    Catching wins you possession which I'd have thought we'd want. Lots of positives at the moment: 7 pts from 3 games, MP back to his best, L2's top scorer, Jatta not gone. Unfortunately every analysis s

  • heraldmagpie
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    I don’t mean this in a harsh way, because I’m sure Kelle Roos is a decent bloke who gives it his all. But I can’t help feeling nervous when he’s in goal. Sometimes it looks like he’s not fully focused

  • Piethagoram
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    DoF had plenty of time to source a new keeper. On the face of it, it was a panic signing. Following the pre season in Germany, Max Boruc was a much better keeper

@McPie I don't think your view is controversial (or was that a touch of sarcasm?). I can understand the criticism of Kelle Roos (the Count) In my opinion I think he's a very poor Goalkeeper and doesn't instill Confidence in the Defenders in front of him. He seems to just stay on his line and his movement is slow, he should come out and catch crosses and only punch the ball when he's under pressure. If a Keeper is confident in his own ability, it very rare he'll spill the ball, and if that happens defenders should be there to clear the ball away from any Danger. Hopefully the Club will sign another keeper on Monday, but Don't Hold Your Breath.

The Kelle Roos AI overview on Google describes Roos like this.

"Kelle Roos is an experienced, physical goalkeeper known for being a dominant presence in goal & comfortable playing out from the back, with attributes that make him a strong shot-stopper & a capable ball-playing goalkeeper. While his exact type of goalkeeper is a blend of modern & traditional qualities, he is often characterized by his experience, commanding stature, & ability to contribute to build-up play from defense".

So did Notts make a mistake with their research?

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Catching wins you possession which I'd have thought we'd want. Lots of positives at the moment: 7 pts from 3 games, MP back to his best, L2's top scorer, Jatta not gone. Unfortunately every analysis site rates Roos the worst performing keeper in the division so far and he has a terrible saves to goals ratio. If he keeps getting picked then not sure what data the committee are looking at.

As Didzy said, Football is a Simple Game, which needs To Be Seen With The Naked Eye. So if a member of the Recruitment team had gone and watched Roos in Action, Instead of Relying on Data then all his Faults, would have been there to see but then Again He was a Free Agent so would have cost the Club Nothing and that's what the Brothers are looking For Cheapness or No Cost at all.

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No sarcasm intended @Wheelbarrow repair man, just a genuine thought. But there has been some good replies to the conundrum, so it's good to get a rounded out view. That's the beauty of forums like this!

DoF had plenty of time to source a new keeper. On the face of it, it was a panic signing. Following the pre season in Germany, Max Boruc was a much better keeper

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I had a little look to see if he'd injured his shoulder or something that might make his proneness to giving a good ol' fist.

But no.

I don't really feel a lack of confidence, although it's hard to gauge because you only look at what a keeper's doing for a very very small portion of a game.

I think he's a great shot stopper, but overall, I think he's quite bad and had a fortunate career. If you've not overcome a glearing shortcoming by 33, then it's not gonna be taught out of you at League 2 by Steve Collis (no shade on Steve).

If it came to a PL GK on loan or a new forward before the window closes, then it's keeper all day. Teams have seen the data and the highlights to know that they can cross the ball deep for 90 mins to probs get something out of us.

6 hours ago, Robbie said:
The Kelle Roos AI overview on Google describes Roos like this.

"Kelle Roos is an experienced, physical goalkeeper known for being a dominant presence in goal & comfortable playing out from the back, with attributes that make him a strong shot-stopper & a capable ball-playing goalkeeper. While his exact type of goalkeeper is a blend of modern & traditional qualities, he is often characterized by his experience, commanding stature, & ability to contribute to build-up play from defense".

So did Notts make a mistake with their research?

Slightly OT, but I hate the Google AI assistant. It's like having a half-wit providing an unsolicited opinion on all my Google searches.

I'm sure our scouts will have watched him (surely we're not signing players on agents' recommendations?), but the new keeper doesn't inspire confidence at all. Maybe @McPie is also thinking about his failed punch late on against Tranmere. There's nothing wrong with punching the ball, Kasper Schmeichel was partial to it too, but when you do it you have to get some proper distance on it. Roos' "clearance" didn't even leave the penalty area and could quite easily have led to a goal.

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@DangerousSausage , Kasper Schmeichel now there's a Proper Keeper, miles better than the current Notts number 1. A guy who could command his area, who'd race off his Goal line to narrow the angle against an attacking Forward, a leader who would , Shout and Encourage his Defenders.

@Wheelbarrow repair man Kasper was just like having an extra outfield player. He was a big reason how we achieved promotion that year.

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@Robbie but at a probable unsustainable salary cost, that put the whole club at risk of financial collapse

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@Piethagoram In hindsight yes, but no-one knew it at the time when he was first signed.

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I heard both Kasper and Sven turned down their Large Payment Package otherwise Notts would have Gone Under. The Club were Conned by a First Class Conn Artist Russell King who had also Conned Banks Royalty and North Korea's Supreme Leader. He also secured a Trillion Dollars worth of a Country's Mineral Rights.

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