Sheffield Pie

Developing players is so much better. The last time we got promoted to L1 we added 'proven' players from a higher level (as some Notts fans still hanker for) and it wasn't great - Burgess, Chilvers, Smith, Spicer, Harley etc. Waste of wages and no return on investment.

Great stuff. Competition for places in midfield! Some interesting insights from Harrogate's manager on how Notts went about this one: Weaver interview

Peter O'Rourke seems to be in the know but a lot of the rest are just chancers copying each others' tweets. Hope so in this case!

Luker scored in a friendly on Saturday and seems to be closer to their first team so that door might have shut which would be a shame, you never know though. In contrast I see Aljofree was released and is on trial at Rotherham. Just shows you can never judge loan signings based on pedigree. Expecting some loans confirmed soon, we must be a very attractive proposition to young pros looking for game time. Digressing slightly but as usual a small minority of Notts fans online (not here) are spending the summer wallowing in rumour fuelled negativity, extraordinary after two promotions in four years, season ticket sales up again, signing other clubs' players of the season, in the same division as Leicester and Wednesday etc. Trying my best to ignore it, as I'm sure the club do, but it's just bizarre.

Haven't Newport signed Kyle Cameron? Hopefully we're the ones getting an upgrade. Baker was at Stoke, becoming quite a common pedigree at Notts.

Good post match interview from MP as always. Fair to the players, complimentary to the fans. Made it pretty clear a couple of times there are more signings in the pipeline, ones that will strengthen the side. Hope so. No reason to doubt it.

He's worth more than that. I think Jatta will only leave if his head is turned by big wages. Worrying about something that hasn't happened? Anyway the guy needs to have some faith. The club found Wootton, Langstaff and Jatta, all sensationally good calls.

OK we'll see! Expect the club will be working on his fitness initially. Ndlovu said he struggled at first to meet the fitness level before he got minutes. I don't go on the other forum but I expect they're having a negativity fest! Keep the faith.

Thanks liked the photos at the end as well. As a neutral, any thoughts on Roos and the triallists?

Sorted. He was always going to be the easiest one to shift. Roos and Traore much harder! Hopefully this frees up some of the wage bill for a decent signing, Mellon or someone at least of that calibre. I make it four slots free in the squad now, not including U21s and keepers.

More good news. Though today's statement from the club says Rodders is also out for a bit, so we've not got many fit defenders. Might explain why Aden Flint is training with us. Might be more triallists on show at Alfreton. Personally I think the squad is shaping up fine. I'm happy the club isn't panic buying or offering crazy money, not that our owners ever would.

Surprised to read Langstaff has signed for Salford, reportedly with Millwall getting their money back. He's at peak age but ended up in a division below us at a non-league standard ground. Their new manager has no experience of English football I don't think, has only worked in Japan, so not sure how that will work out. Best of luck to him but can't help feeling he could have shown more ambition. We're rumoured to have bid for Burnley's Michael Mellon. Would mean doing some pruning up front - hopefully takers for Dennis and/or Traore.

Flint is pretty old, not sure why he's training with us unless he lives nearby? Leko makes more sense, was a great prospect as a teenager but had a long term injury - shades of Jodi? Probably a high earner at his previous clubs.

Good luck to him. We've had a little bit of success with young-ish permanent signings (Macari, Ness and Browne might turn out OK) and some flops (Jarvis). I've got a feeling Paterson will be good at bringing them on, because he's so demanding and clearly cares about his players, but also as someone who fought his way into men's football at a young age. Darius's parents are Moldovan apparenrlty, hence the un-Irish sounding name.

The fixtures are triggering memories of seeing Notts against teams we haven't played for a long time. Same for anyone else? Here are three I remember well (I think!), two from the 90s and one from the 80s. Beating Leicester 4-1 at Meadow Lane, Gary McSwegan hat trick was it? Losing 0-3 at Turf Moor, I got there early and bumped into Russell Slade in the town, had a chat about the win over Spurs. My first Notts away game, lost 3-5 to Luton, Chiedozie scored a great goal. ... let's hope this season generates some great memories for our young fans.

I though that too but wouldn't be surprised if Bromley vs Leicester or Sheff Wed came out as a TV game. I'm guessing Peterborough (A).

Aside from the data it's noticeable that fans of other clubs, managers and commentators, new signings etc. quite often describe Notts as a "massive club". Granted they may sometimes mean "by lower league standards" but this would NEVER have been said of Notts 10, 20 or 30 years ago. So the perception has definitely changed, which is actually quite important.

Great stuff. I did wonder if there was anyone else in the EFL2 team of the season we might fancy, as well as Gibbons. Glover would have been nice but money talks. So interested to see Read from Colchester is in there.

It will be interesting to see if anyone else leaves. I think we have 16 contracted players now, excluding keepers and u21s (have I counted correctly?). So room for six more although we've offered two contracts, which would only leave four slots. Rodders - has moved around a lot in his career. The owners are strict on only paying what they think someone is worth. So would not be that big a shock if he left. Macari - injured and with a betting issue on his record, so likely to be grateful of the chance to stay. Roos - mutually terminated surely? Traore - expect they will try to loan him out; costly mistake if we're stuck with him. Shame it's not worked out for the guy. Dennis - we will get offers, just depends on the owners' valuation whether he goes. Any other possibles? Maybe only if we get a big offer for Jatta or maybe Robertson.

I'm expecting our three signings to start. I've seen some people describing Roberts as a squad player but I hope not, he's got the potential to be really exciting for us, a fan faourite, and someone who can take free kicks and corners better than anyone we have currently.

Last season Notts had the tenth highest number of empty seats on average out of the 92. Our gates have improved massively as we all know, but from an occupancy rate of around 25% to 50%, so lots of room for improvement before we need to worry about needing a bigger ground. Next season hopefully over 60% occupancy. I've always thought around 75% is ideal - enough to feel pretty full and create a good atmosphere most games, but with room for new/floating fans when they want to come. I think we could get there if we keep making progress.

Just based on who's been signed it's looking like we might be going for a loan signing in the AM role again. Maybe there's data that shows good quality AMs are really difficult to sign permanently without paying top fees/wages. And a young Prem loanee is likely to have the skill set and self-belief to come in and do a job. Hoping for a 'big reveal' teaser type announcement in the next few weeks, like Abbot or Iorpenda coming back.

Tempted by this but Denmark is expensive! Went there for an England friendly in summer 2005, got a cheap flight to Hamburg then train and camped to keep costs down. Matches concide with World Cup QFs and Semi-finals so anyone going make sure you've got access to a screen in case England do well!

All three signings are players that their club and fans would have been delighted to hang on to. That's got to be a good sign.

Good point, last pre-season was a bit of a shambles. Bonding on a foreign trip is all very well but when you've made 11 signings and have a new coaching team, maybe not so clever. Will be interesting to see what sort of pre-season they go for this year. Feeling even more optimistic anyway, don;t normally bother with pre-season but can't wait now.