BREXIT.....

[Piethagoram 𝕏 @piethagoram]

 

[Robbie 𝕏 @Robbie_NCFC]

ANDREW NEIL: Port Talbot has been sacrificed to the altar of Net Zero https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12984989/andrew-neil-Port-Talbot-sacrificed-alter-Net-zero.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

[Piethagoram 𝕏 @piethagoram]

C'mon dear  @Robbie, an article written by a person that doesn't seemingly pay UK tax, resides in France, and enjoys it's benefit of the Single Market and Customs Union!

"The Tories are so keen on pursuing it that they're even stumping up £500 million of taxpayers' money to help Tata meet the £1.25 billion cost of converting to the electric arc process."

However, I believe the reality is different.. If this was true, the £500 million would have been made "conditional" on "converting to the electric arc process".. However it was NOT, it was just given to Tata with no strings attached.. Unbelievable!

Andrew Neil is right to point out the high cost of British energy..... but we were promised cheaper energy with Brexit... 

Have a look at this Vote Leave video, everything about it is a lie.

 

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[Robbie 𝕏 @Robbie_NCFC]

Ex-Polish PM warns EU will 'implode' over Brussels power grab: 'Now I understand Brexit!'

EXCLUSIVE: A leading European politician has admitted he now understands why Britain backed Brexit and warned that the "dangerous" EU "will implode".

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1855247/brexit-poland-prime-minister-eu-power-grab

 

[Robbie 𝕏 @Robbie_NCFC]

 

Desperate Brussels plots power-grab as bloc could slap EU citizens with shameless tax rise

The European Union could carry out a brazen power-grab to fill an £18bn blackhole in its budget, as the Brussels bloc struggles to raise more money.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1852416/brussels-power-grab-eu-shameless-tax-rise

 

Brexit victory with UK poised to exploit huge £60m shellfish discovery in Thames

EXCLUSIVE: Anna Firth said she was "delighted" to welcome Prime Minister Rishi Sunak to her Essex constituency this week.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1857569/brexit-clam-beds-shellfish-thames-estuary

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16 minutes ago, Robbie said:

Ex-Polish PM warns EU will 'implode' over Brussels power grab: 'Now I understand Brexit!'

EXCLUSIVE: A leading European politician has admitted he now understands why Britain backed Brexit and warned that the "dangerous" EU "will implode".

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1855247/brexit-poland-prime-minister-eu-power-grab

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/eus-reynders-visits-poland-discuss-restoring-rule-law-2024-01-19/

So @Robbie are you comfortable with the notion of not having an independent judiciary?

[Robbie 𝕏 @Robbie_NCFC]

6 minutes ago, Piethagoram said:

 

Opinion, opinion opinion. That's all it is.

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10 hours ago, Robbie said:

Opinion, opinion opinion. That's all it is.

Sorry @Robbie, it's beyond "opinion"...it's a fact:

https://businessplus.ie/industry-type/agribusiness-food/brexit-sting-in-the-tail-for-food-exporters-to-the-uk/

I take it you are happy with the higher food costs which come with the paperwork. I'm not!

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[Robbie 𝕏 @Robbie_NCFC]

1 hour ago, Piethagoram said:

Sorry @Robbie, it's beyond "opinion"...it's a fact:

https://businessplus.ie/industry-type/agribusiness-food/brexit-sting-in-the-tail-for-food-exporters-to-the-uk/

I take it you are happy with the higher food costs which come with the paperwork. I'm not!

Going into the EEC and EU increased food prices and made Milk lakes & butter mountains. The EU is a protectionist racket. Of course the EU fanatics fail to recognise that, but whatever.

[Robbie 𝕏 @Robbie_NCFC]

Another Brexit victory.

Brexit victory with UK poised to exploit huge £60m shellfish discovery in Thames

EXCLUSIVE: Anna Firth said she was "delighted" to welcome Prime Minister Rishi Sunak to her Essex constituency this week.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1857569/brexit-clam-beds-shellfish-thames-estuary

 

[Piethagoram 𝕏 @piethagoram]

8 hours ago, Robbie said:

Going into the EEC and EU increased food prices and made Milk lakes & butter mountains. The EU is a protectionist racket. Of course the EU fanatics fail to recognise that, but whatever.

I hate it when the Brexiteers refer to the EU as "a protectionist racket"...especially when the UK's own government have sold UK agriculture and fisheries down the proverbial river! Yes, there has to be protectionism because in times of war, governments need to protect food supplies to its own people. The UK is now in its weakest position, having to rely mostly on EU imported food to feed its population.

8 hours ago, Robbie said:

Another Brexit victory.

Brexit victory with UK poised to exploit huge £60m shellfish discovery in Thames

EXCLUSIVE: Anna Firth said she was "delighted" to welcome Prime Minister Rishi Sunak to her Essex constituency this week.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1857569/brexit-clam-beds-shellfish-thames-estuary

Not much detail as to where these shellfish are to be sold? Just think of all that paperwork needed now to sell into the EU but be wary of the current government's river pollution standoff...at what point does sewage spillage into our rivers and seas start killing the fish! How is this acceptable?

I'm still struggling to know @Robbie   how these "shellfish" are a Brexit benefit? 

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and more from the NFU (National Farmers Union)

 

[Ohh Tommy Johnson]

I live near Dover - there is huge worry about how these checks will be carried out and not cause huge delays at the ports.  In addition, when the need to take biometric data from passengers comes in it will be a nightmare - everyone in the coaches and cars will need to provide finger prints and  be photographed.  Either people will need to get out or someone will need to get on the bus to check everyone.  I think the expectation is everyone will need t get out of their vehicle.  That will be fun!

This shellfish thing is a red herring. I live across the estuary from Leigh and there is no way the shellfish will pass any vet/health checks as there is so much sewage pumped into the river (our beaches are regularly closed in the summer due to bacteria as a result of discharges).  That eliminates the EU as a destination... then it seems that the argument is that we can sustainably fish, if only we removed the limits on how much we can take, or how young (small) we allow the caught fish (shellfish) to be. 

You have to remember Leigh was very Brexity and has been hit hard by the fallout.  There is an election coming and the sitting MP is a Tory.  I think that is the real reason this is being heralded as a Brexit bonus. I would be amazed if those shellfish are ever caught and sold.

[Robbie 𝕏 @Robbie_NCFC]

This is absolutely outrageous that a veteran of 30 years has to fight the authorities to be able to place a national symbol of our identity on his taxi.

Forty years of being in the EEC & EU the establishment have tried to bury our national identity. That's why 17.4 million of us said, enough is enough,

The establishment will never accept our decision to leave, and this Stokes' division, to the UK's detriment.

 

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2 hours ago, Ohh Tommy Johnson said:

I live near Dover - there is huge worry about how these checks will be carried out and not cause huge delays at the ports.  In addition, when the need to take biometric data from passengers comes in it will be a nightmare - everyone in the coaches and cars will need to provide finger prints and  be photographed.  Either people will need to get out or someone will need to get on the bus to check everyone.  I think the expectation is everyone will need t get out of their vehicle.  That will be fun!

This shellfish thing is a red herring. I live across the estuary from Leigh and there is no way the shellfish will pass any vet/health checks as there is so much sewage pumped into the river (our beaches are regularly closed in the summer due to bacteria as a result of discharges).  That eliminates the EU as a destination... then it seems that the argument is that we can sustainably fish, if only we removed the limits on how much we can take, or how young (small) we allow the caught fish (shellfish) to be. 

You have to remember Leigh was very Brexity and has been hit hard by the fallout.  There is an election coming and the sitting MP is a Tory.  I think that is the real reason this is being heralded as a Brexit bonus. I would be amazed if those shellfish are ever caught and sold.

I don't mind extra security at the border points. It is there to keep us safe, I trust the French, Dutch, and Belgian authorities are doing the same with travellers coming to our Country. Surely you're not against that?

Sewage? Then the authorities need to clean up the river and stop the discharges.

The government has dragged it's heals over fishing in general, giving the EU continued fishing rights in our waters. After this transition those rights should be reduced or ended, meanwhile our fishing fleet should be enlarged, that's what Brexiteers expect.

 

[Ohh Tommy Johnson]

7 minutes ago, Robbie said:

I don't mind extra security at the border points. It is there to keep us safe, I trust the French, Dutch, and Belgian authorities are doing the same with travellers coming to our Country. Surely you're not against that?

Sewage? Then the authorities need to clean up the river and stop the discharges.

The government has dragged it's heals over fishing in general, giving the EU continued fishing rights in our waters. After this transition those rights should be reduced or ended, meanwhile our fishing fleet should be enlarged, that's what Brexiteers expect.

 

This is the French, Dutch etc.  We aren't doing anything our side. The checks we are bringing in are for goods inbound, particularly food, requiring additional checks and paperwork which were unnecessary when we were in the EU and only add costs which weren't there before.  The food itself is produced to EU standards, so above ours, but we still need to do the checks.  My understanding is that the EU are increasing their checks too putting more costs on our food producers compared with their European counterparts (I could be wrong on that point though).  

Which authorities?  The water companies will do it (maybe) for a 40% increase (maybe) in the bills. The Environment Agency isn't set up to do it and the Local Authorities don't have the money.  Also, since we left the EU our environmental laws have been relaxed to the point that it is unclear if the Water Companies are actually breaking the law as much as the media would have us believe.  Certainly there aren't many cases being brought to court through Offwat or the EA.  This Government is pretty anti-environment too, so there isn't any appetite to pursue offenders anyway and the Environment Agency has been cut to the bone and beyond.

Fishing was one of the big lies (and truths) of Brexit. The lie was that we could claim the fish for ourselves post leaving, that was never going to happen (not all the fishing agreements were negotiated with the EU - for example the Belgian and Dutch fleets have rights going back to the 17th century, and due to the nature of the channel we have separate agreements with the French, then cod is negotiated with Iceland which isn't part of the EU anyway... incidentally if I recall the EEC backed the UK in the Cod Wars and prevented Iceland taking an even bigger share of the fish than they have).  The truth is we eat very little of the fish we catch and so we export most of it and are reliant on a trade negotiation.  The EU demonstrated the truth of Brexit when they just refused to accept any British fish into the EU unless we agreed fishing rights with them.  We are so small in comparison that we had no negotiating power and our fishing fleet was thrown under the bus. All the vet and health checks that need to be done now we are a 3rd country means that the fish is going directly into EU ports (so that it remains fresh enough after the checks) having a detrimental effect on our ports.  Luckily for us down here the difference between Dover, Ramsgate or Folkestone and Calais, Dunkirk, Dieppe or Ostend is such is only affects shore jobs, Humberside, the North East and Scotland are much more affected as they have to get from the fishing grounds down to their markets in Europe and then head back up north again.  Alas, we don't have the negotiating power to change that... but Vote Leave knew this beforehand.

FWIW, I don't think we will go back into the EU for a long time, as the terms that would be offered (i.e. the same as any new country asking to join would get) will be unacceptable as they are so much worse than we had as a member, however, if we don't move closer to the EU then we risk being left stranded, particularly if Trump gets in again in the States.  I honestly don't think Brexit can ever be successful when measured against what we had, but it doesn't need to be the disaster it currently is, but it needs honesty from Politicians of all persuasions to come clean about what can and can't be achieved so the we have realistic expectations of what the future holds.  In many respects that in itself would be a huge step forward rather than this ridiculous situation where they all deny Brexit has anything to do with the negatives, brandish the most minor benefit (real or imagined) as a massive breakthrough and refuse to engage in any meaningful conversation on the topic.  Be honest with us and we can move forward.

1 hour ago, Robbie said:

This is absolutely outrageous that a veteran of 30 years has to fight the authorities to be able to place a national symbol of our identity on his taxi.

Forty years of being in the EEC & EU the establishment have tried to bury our national identity. That's why 17.4 million of us said, enough is enough,

The establishment will never accept our decision to leave, and this Stokes' division, to the UK's detriment.

 

I don't get why that has anything to do with Brexit - the policy was adopted in 2023 by Shropshire council, surely we should be up in arms at the government for this? The EU isn't mentioned once in that clip.

[Robbie 𝕏 @Robbie_NCFC]

It's time the EU really minded it's own business when it comes to the internal affairs of the UK.

Silly' EU blasted for lecturing UK on when to hold an election

EXCLUSIVE: Brexiteer Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg has blasted the EU after its diplomats were said to be "grumbling" about the UK's general election timetable.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1858827/EU-UK-election-date-European-Political-Community