2 hours ago, erindoors said:

I never said anyone has posted a threat on here. They have other media. There's been some fanning of the flames, though! Perhaps you would see things differently if you were me? And it's good to hear fans opinions, though it can be disheartening to hear people will be choosing not to support the club for the time being. I do understand the reservations, and the appointments are not made as a poke in the eye to the loyal, but because we feel they are right, for whatever reasons, at the time.

 

I often hear "we were here long before the Trews came and will be here long after they've gone." Some will even suggest I'm not a supporter. Actually, I am, and i feel we should be welcoming all supporters, new and old alike. It does not make for a lesser supporter because they are young, or because they have recently found a passion for the club. It does not mean they (we ) care less.

Custodians leave for a variety of reasons, but that also does not mean they no longer support the club. Just that they no longer fund it.

None of this is specifically aimed at anyone, but will answer a few dm's that have come my way. I'm looking forward to our next phase. I'll be there supporting Notts with more passion than I probably ought, and I hope, you all will, too. COYP

 

 

 

My reservations regarding the new manager and his appointment are in a nutshell a frustration at the circumstances that surround Notts. Whilst we as a club are in probably the best off field shape we have ever been, we are lucky enough to have yourself and your husband who are putting the sums of money into the club that it has never seen before and we all know where this money could get the club.

Whilst it is a downright stupid statement to make that you & Ray put the money into the club just to appoint a numpty to see it all wasted, which by and large it has been by previous managers, I as a fan feel that at least from the outside we had managers applying for the position this time that I could actually see developing the club into a force to be reckoned with (ala Mark Cooper).

This raised the level of expectation within me as a fan, just like the general level has been ever since your tenure began and then to see all that expectation washed away (on face value at least) was too much to accept, I feel this was only worsened by the apparent PR event to convince us he is the right man.

Lets hope he is, I do hope though that this has gone a little way to explaining my frustrations with the appoointment

 

Oh and also apologise if I have crossed the line at any point.

 

BTW @erindoors Do you ever feel like a parent to roughly 7,500 kids by any chance??? ha ha

3 minutes ago, Northants Pie said:

 

 

My reservations regarding the new manager and his appointment are in a nutshell a frustration at the circumstances that surround Notts. Whilst we as a club are in probably the best off field shape we have ever been, we are lucky enough to have yourself and your husband who are putting the sums of money into the club that it has never seen before and we all know where this money could get the club.

Whilst it is a downright stupid statement to make that you & Ray put the money into the club just to appoint a numpty to see it all wasted, which by and large it has been by previous managers, I as a fan feel that at least from the outside we had managers applying for the position this time that I could actually see developing the club into a force to be reckoned with (ala Mark Cooper).

This raised the level of expectation within me as a fan, just like the general level has been ever since your tenure began and then to see all that expectation washed away (on face value at least) was too much to accept, I feel this was only worsened by the apparent PR event to convince us he is the right man.

Lets hope he is, I do hope though that this has gone a little way to explaining my frustrations with the appoointment

 

I think you've put that really well, it's a good explanation of the frustrations I suspect many have felt.  Yes, mistakes have been made. Not just by us, though.

Most of the expectations were raised by betting odds, not by us, I should say. 

Yes, all the applicants were excellent. Maybe expectations were raised in the past. When I was more circumspect in my interview with media in close season, some quarters levelled discontent that I had not guaranteed an immediate promotion..others found that sensible. People care for their club and social media can influence opinion, judgement and expectation like never before. It's what we've become.

But there was no unusual PR event at all. We introduced the new Manager and had listened to the supporters concerns and knew to expect a reaction. But we still thought that he was the right person for the job.

Thanks again for your post. It is appreciated.

OK folks its good of @erindoors to come on our forum to interact with the fans so lets keep this discussion civil please. After all we all want the same thing.

58 minutes ago, Elite_pie said:

Forgive me for being slow on the uptake being a novice on here, but I've only just realised who erindoors is.  I used to know her as Poundpie in a former life!  My take on things is simple:

I find this appointment very disappointing.

I will be at the next home game to support the team and manager.

I will definitely renew my ST in the summer, whoever the owners, manager and players are. 

Anyone who makes threats or hurls abuse through any media are the scum of the earth.

I don't have a clue what a dm is.

its a direct or private message. Usually used for issuing threats or abuse. Although I've had the odd pervy one, too. (and at my age! ;-) )

and good to know the club has your support, as ever, Elite. PP

8 minutes ago, Northants Pie said:

Oh and also apologise if I have crossed the line at any point.

 

BTW @erindoors Do you ever feel like a parent to roughly 7,500 kids by any chance??? ha ha

No, you haven't crossed the line at all.

I would be delighted to feel like a parent to 7500 kids, actually! 

6 minutes ago, tonyhateley said:

OK folks its good of @erindoors to come on our forum to interact with the fans so lets keep this discussion civil please. After all we all want the same thing.

hello, grumpy x

2 minutes ago, erindoors said:

I think you've put that really well, it's a good explanation of the frustrations I suspect many have felt.  Yes, mistakes have been made. Not just by us, though.

Most of the expectations were raised by betting odds, not by us, I should say. 

Yes, all the applicants were excellent. Maybe expectations were raised in the past. When I was more circumspect in my interview with media in close season, some quarters levelled discontent that I had not guaranteed an immediate promotion..others found that sensible. People care for their club and social media can influence opinion, judgement and expectation like never before. It's what we've become.

But there was no unusual PR event at all. We introduced the new Manager and had listened to the supporters concerns and knew to expect a reaction. But we still thought that he was the right person for the job.

Thanks again for your post. It is appreciated.

Lets hope he is the right person for the job, I actually listened to his interview today and I can understand why you have the faith you do in him.

The reason for the PR statement was the interview with Julian Winter, whilst it was most probably the norm he, for me, came across as trying to hard to convince us that Jamie is the right man. Again we didn't sit in on the interview  so will never know just how good he was. Looking backwards anyone other than Jose Mourhino would have caused upset I think!!

Thank you once again for taking the time to have this conversation and please accept my apologies for any upset I may have caused.

4 minutes ago, erindoors said:

its a direct or private message. Usually used for issuing threats or abuse. Although I've had the odd pervy one, too. (and at my age! ;-) )

and good to know the club has your support, as ever, Elite. PP

I hope you haven't had any abusive personal  messages on this forum @erindoors if so please reportit so we can take the approoriate action. 

9 minutes ago, erindoors said:

its a direct or private message. Usually used for issuing threats or abuse. Although I've had the odd pervy one, too. (and at my age! ;-) )

and good to know the club has your support, as ever, Elite. PP

If they are death threats or threats of violence take them to the Police as they are duty bound to act on them, and I know in my county they would do

Just now, Northants Pie said:

Lets hope he is the right person for the job, I actually listened to his interview today and I can understand why you have the faith you do in him.

The reason for the PR statement was the interview with Julian Winter, whilst it was most probably the norm he, for me, came across as trying to hard to convince us that Jamie is the right man. Again we didn't sit in on the interview  so will never know just how good he was. Looking backwards anyone other than Jose Mourhino would have caused upset I think!!

Thank you once again for taking the time to have this conversation and please accept my apologies for any upset I may have caused.

Julian has been settling into role, organising quite a lot and now is the time for him the project himself a little more. Let's face it, most folk will prefer to  concentrate on what's on the pitch. If that works, you don't want to be hearing too much from us lot. It's about the football. 

And no probs at all. Wasn't it you I talked grass seed, fibre sand and nitrogen levels to?

5 minutes ago, tonyhateley said:

I hope you haven't had any abusive personal  messages on this forum @erindoors if so please reportit so we can take the approoriate action. 

No, not at all. People on here may well have the heebie jeebies and the odd grump, but thats all...

1 minute ago, erindoors said:

Julian has been settling into role, organising quite a lot and now is the time for him the project himself a little more. Let's face it, most folk will prefer to  concentrate on what's on the pitch. If that works, you don't want to be hearing too much from us lot. It's about the football. 

And no probs at all. Wasn't it you I talked grass seed, fibre sand and nitrogen levels to?

It was indeed ;-)

He comes across really well, probably me looking into it further than I should (occupational hazard...)

1 minute ago, erindoors said:

No, not at all. People on here may well have the heebie jeebies and the odd grump, but thats all...

Well we are Notts fans after all, its part of the job description.

 

3 minutes ago, tonyhateley said:

Well we are Notts fans after all, its part of the job description.

 

I think that was a coded message for you to cheer up..... ha ha