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  1. @cheeky~k8Having said many times before...Referendum should be voided as VoteLeave broke Electoral Law...You cannot pick and choose which laws you abide with?
  2. If you care about the NHS.....
  3. UK government admits we will be poorer by Brexit...... that means we WILL all be paying Higher Taxes to pay for this mess.... unless you are one of the very wealthy being able to hide fortunes in the UK Tax Havens to avoid the incoming EU "Tax Avoidance" directive. Wake up Britain!!!
  4. Tax revenues down £500m a week..... Brexit will be a disaster for the NHS
  5. a really good thread on twitter
  6. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/11/observer-view-on-jo-johnson-resignation-britains-future-brexit A good summary of the options faced
  7. @hissingdwarf reality check?
  8. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-theresa-may-no-deal-medicine-glaucoma-diabetes-health-patients-a8627661.html
  9. @hissingdwarf Emily Thornberry taken to pieces by Marr on Labour's Brexit stance...
  10. @hissingdwarf Hillary Clinton got a greater vote share than Trump, and she didnt win. Basically Labour increased the vote share in its heartlands, you can only win by taking the centre marginals Its unacceptable for Labour to stand idly by re breaking of electoral law...It shows a complete moral vacuum At the end of the day, the public dont think JC is Prime Ministerial material... and Labour's young (most young voters are in favour of Remain) will turn on Corbyn for being the wrong side of history I may have outdone @hissingdwarf for rabidness!!!
  11. @hissingdwarfSorry, not being antagonistic, but I expect The Labour Party to stand up and say the law has been broken. It is a complete and utter cop out to not even raise it by the Labour Front Bench in Parliament I don't expect a GE to be called, as Tory MP's will want to hang on to their seats as long as possible. Ireland settlement is vital but cannot see it being resolved...EU will not compromise on freedom of movement and Customs Union. Going back to an earlier post, referring to Alaistair Campbell. Labour has moved to the left but crucially the country has not. I am old enough to remember Michael Foot's disaster and with the worst government in living memory, it's not OK to continue blindly supporting the Corbyn vision. The opinion polls should have Labour 20 points ahead , the fact that they don't speaks volumes. Jeremy is continuing to pursue to win the UKIP vote at the expense of the mainstream social democratic views many hold within the party.
  12. @Magic magpieIn a nutshell, Good Friday Agreement for whole of Ireland, enshrines freedom of movement of people ( i.e.no visas) and Customs Union ( no tariffs and minimal checks on movement of goods)...so that is current UK position in Single market and Customs Union.... Mrs May proposes ending Freedom of Movement...therefore visas more than likely ( will affect us if we need to travel to EU by needing and paying for a visa) and ending Customs Union...means goods will need to be inspected at ports...with documentation like certificates of origin to be checked, vet checks and certificates to prove animals exported havent been fed on GM foodmeal etc, so that animal welfare standards have been adhered too
  13. @Magic magpie..... The Irish Border is the impossible problem to solve, freedom of movement and customs union enshrined in international law.... will the UK do a Russia and break an international agreement to satisfy brexiteers???
  14. @hissingdwarf"Labour can’t be seen to be undermining the whole thing until the time is right, and that isn’t yet."...BUT the referendum has been shown to have been influenced by the breaking of Electoral Law...and Corbyn stands by and does nothing? One cannot cherry pick which laws you abide by!!! "People need to see the real consequences of their actions."...Labour cant allow that to get that far.... like a technical default on 29 March and leave without a deal... Labour is supposed to look after the most vulnerable in our society...and in no way is it demonstrating that it is doing that now, with its Brexit stance.
  15. @hissingdwarf @hissingdwarf A lot what you have previously written I agree with. However, you last response has to be challenged... It wasnt half the Labour party voting for Brexit, 65% yes that is 65% of Labour voted to Remain. Like it or not, the City of London is the major sector driving tax revenues. Failure to secure Single market / Customs union status puts those tax revenues at risk. Your armageddon wishes for a Tory self destruction, is not acceptable to the damage that Brexit will do to this country. Labour at the moment is not "leading the debate" and it's totally unacceptable that the British People will back the current Labour stance that "we can do a better job", without any level of detail provided!!!!! as to why. Corbyn's interview with Der Spiegel is the final straw. There was an opportunity to reinforce what was decided at the Labour Conference 2018..but no, he chose to make public his own thoughts..which naturally is at odds with what Conference decided. It's about electability..and Corbyn has deceived his own members (81% of Labour membership surveyed support a public vote on the deal.)
  16. @hissingdwarf Sorry but Jeremy is abdicating responsibility to the forthcoming biggest economic disaster of our time @hissingdwarfAs of now, Alastair Campbell was involved in Labour's 3 General Election victories.... It is normal protocol, that if a Labour leader loses a General Election, then they should resign. You only have to look at Polling for suitability as the next PM, Jeremy is lagging far behind the worst PM in living memory. Labour members need to recognise they are backing a loser, as Labour needs to win over disenfranchised Tories...and that's just not happening. To just say Keir is doing a good job...but you seem to have forgotten his Conference speech was over written by the Shadow Chancellor's position... Which basically is saying Keir's words are just a sideline. If only Jeremy stood up to the plate and backs a Peoples Vote immediately, moderate voters will take notice. I dont want another 5 years of my life wasted with another Tory General Election victory, because Jeremy feels the EU doesnt allow State Intervention...the EU evidence points otherwise
  17. @hissingdwarf Sorry but Jeremy is abdicating responsibility to the forthcoming biggest economic disaster of our time
  18. http://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2018/11/ignorance-and-irresponsibility-continue.html
  19. Democracies have the right to change their minds.... The point is Electoral Law was broken...you cannot cherry pick which laws you abide with? It's like buying a house, you agree to purchase but when you get the legal and surveyor documentation back, and you don't like the potential aftermath of going ahead, you have the right to pull out. It's not the attitude "truly bored stupid over this".. some people care enough that this country is about to commit economic suicide and are doing their best to prevent this. Not only for ourselves but for future generations. @Cliftonpieand @Bainbridge NCFCstrangely remain silent, there are no rosy uplands post Brexit, not one

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