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Carbon capture, usage, and storage (CCUS): The government is providing £3.9 billion in 2025/26 for CCUS projects to decarbonize industry. (Source Google)

But the government have taken away £1.4billion to help pensioners pay their winter fuel bill as well as having to pay the green levy on their bills.

Absolutely shocking.

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I agree @Robbie that carbon capture is an unproven technology

Quoting Andrew Montford, one of the Net Zero Watch cabal doesnt help your case

 

 

 

 

 

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29 minutes ago, Piethagoram said:

I agree @Robbie that carbon capture is an unproven technology

Quoting Andrew Montford, one of the Net Zero Watch cabal doesnt help your case

My case is watertight. I notice you are reluctant to mention our pensioners plight and the fact that pensioners go cold while this labour government splashes out money on their green policies.

Because it's very awkward subject for Labour isn't it.

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15 hours ago, Piethagoram said:

Actually @Robbie I don't defend the withdrawal of winter fuel payments. I think it's morally wrong

You must have missed this Robbie

How about all the PPE fiasco for Tory chums, is Michelle Mone in prison yet? That could have saved the Winter Fuel Payments. But hey, look over there Net Zero Watch tactics in full flow.

Do you have a view on fracking?

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7 minutes ago, Piethagoram said:

You must have missed this Robbie

How about all the PPE fiasco for Tory chums, is Michelle Mone in prison yet? That could have saved the Winter Fuel Payments. But hey, look over there Net Zero Watch tactics in full flow.

Do you have a view on fracking?

Again, you never mentioned the pensioners, because there's no defence you can sensibly call upon. 

Just admit it. Labour was wrong to withdraw the winter fuel allowance for pensioners.

But I know you won't.

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1 hour ago, Piethagoram said:

Actually @Robbie I don't defend the withdrawal of winter fuel payments. I think it's morally wrong

How many times do I have to say it.

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8 hours ago, Piethagoram said:

How many times do I have to say it.

Listen To Me GIF by Britannia

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I don't think that the taking away of the winter fuel allowance for pensioners by this despicable Labour government @Fozzy is a laughing matter or deserves to be treated as a joke. But whatever.

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2 hours ago, Robbie said:

I don't think that the taking away of the winter fuel allowance for pensioners by this despicable Labour government @Fozzy is a laughing matter or deserves to be treated as a joke. But whatever.

The joke @Robbie is the fact that @Piethagoramhas said countless times on this board and thread that he is totally against Labour’s policy on removing the winter fuel payment, yet you keep beating him over the head with it every 5 minutes just because you know his political leanings are to the left (like the majority of his non football posts).

This government is destined to fail as it is full of student politicians and no business acumen within it, but that appears to be the way politics is heading at the moment. They will continue to make bad decisions (especially with the suicidal rush to Net Zero whilst the people suffer) but we have no choice but to suck it up for 5 years and then boot them out, probably to be replaced by another shower.

Oh, and the 22 billion pound black hole is a figment of Labour’s imagination, it was somewhere between 9 and 13 (still significant) Maybe if they scaled back the 40 billion a year spend on Net Zero and got there a few years later, less people in the country would be suffering.

 

 

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Appreciate  @Fozzy for your sensible post (I'm only centre-left leaning!)

I think the trade off ..in order to get cheaper electricity is the investment in wind farms and the like. British industry also needs cheaper electricity to compete. 

I am in favour of continuing gas production / exploration in the North Sea. What does get overlooked are the decommissioning costs of oil rigs... do the oil companies walk away from such? At least the EU, had a framework to ensure the legal / costs obligations of oil and gas co's fell on them, so they coudn't walk away.

Much talk on new pylon infrastructure across Norfolk and Suffolk. Blot on the landscape, maybe, but it is necessary.

Fracking in the UK is not the way to go, despite what Net Zero Watch propogandists have proposed in the past.

Reservoirs, for hydro electric is an interesting one, of which I am in favour.. When the Tory govt sold the water co's, the latter took the reservoirs too. No new reservoirs have been built since. UK population has expanded... yet we need new reservoirs, especially when the likes of York, Shrewsbury, Bewdley Hebden Bridge , et al get flooded time and again. 

More infrastructure costs built up for Labour to sort out as 14 years of Tories have done the proverbial sweet  .. . in those years

 

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@Fozzy I agree with your last two paragraphs, & personally  would rather there not be political threads on PON, because there is plenty of social media where politics can be discussed.

As for net zero. I would be happy to see all subsidies to Green companies, such as those supplying heat pumps, electric cars & the green levy on bills abolished 

Let those green companies compete on the open market on a level playing field 

The tax payer shouldn't be subsidising the race to net zero.

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