Match Discussion: Game 20 - The Ammies (A) Live

[menzinho]

I agree that was the worst performance of the season, out-played (which I don’t think has really happened yet) and out fought which is really disappointing.

I still think the inverted wingbacks are more of hinderance than a help. And I hate seeing Dan Crowley spend more time in his own half than the oppositions. But the worrying trend right now is that we’ve now managed to combine our inability to create very little with the ability to concede sloppy goals.

That’s three games on the spin where we’ve conceded from passing the ball into the middle of the pitch now… Todays was the worst though. I still think we can play out from the back but we’ve got to be so much smarter. We still pass it around far too slow at times, we were getting hassled and harried but knocked it about at a snail’s pace again. If want you want to beat a press, without going direct, you’ve got to pass is it so much quicker and slicker.

That was also a strong team today, if Jodi started that’s arguably our best side… And I still think we’d have lost 3-0.

[Piethagoram 𝕏 @piethagoram]

Just back, totally unacceptable level of performance, clueless...Looked they had never played together before. 90 minutes of drudge. Salford looked a yard quicker..they were. 

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The #Notts crowd turned up for a 1230h kick off in great numbers. Totally let down, Maynard, his staff, the players. An utter disgrace of a performance

[Fozzy]

There has to be a tipping point when you just have to accept that this coach cannot motivate the team to play. With the players he has had available since being at Notts, a 34% win record is unacceptable. A coach more obsessed with possession than end product, constantly trying to make inverted wingbacks work and trying to make league 2 defenders play like Beckenbauer.

Practically the strongest lineup (minus JJ) we can put out and we play like that. Totally unacceptable.

 

[Super_Danny_Allsopp]

Really depressing. We lost because they wanted it more and we didn't. 

[ARLukomski 𝕏 ARLukomski Instagram declanweliczko_arlki]

That was by far the worst performance this season and one of the worst performances I've seen and I've seen quite a few, so that takes some doing. This is not me exaggerating either. There was NOTHING, literally NOTHING to get excited about or good to take away from that game. Our body language was terrible, there was no effort, no care, no intent and I had no idea what sort of game plan we had to try and win the game. Too many players were bone idle. We created next to nothing and we misplaced so many passes, it's like they'd never met before.

I said before the game that I'd like to see us play at a tempo quicker than coastal erosion, but it turns out coastal erosion is quicker as once again we resorted to possession for possessions sake with zero movement out wide or in front of the back three. It's all too robotic. You can play a possession based game and passing football, but it only works if you do it at the correct intensity and with movement and players carrying the ball forward, running at the opposition. Once again, there was no player willing to get the ball and run with it and take the game to the opposition. 

Another thing to add to the list of Notts nausea was every players inability to trap a bag of sand, as every first touch landed on the moon. This was not to do with the pitch as Salford players didn't have the same problem and it's basic stuff to be able to control the ball. We didn't have this trouble last season when we played on Bradford's sand castle city.

The players and the coaching staff need to realise how disgraceful that was. It's not a performance or result that is good enough to represent Notts as a football club. I can take losing, but not when you put in zero effort and don't look bothered. The fans had a right to boo and voice their frustration at the end. I won't abuse players either and we shouldn't, I don't condone that, however we need to criticise in a way that makes them all realise that it was nowhere near good enough and not good enough to represent Notts County. 

I am pretty much Maynard out now to be honest. If he stays he stays, but if he goes I wouldn't be entirely bothered. He's a nice guy but the more I thought about it on the coach back to Notts, the more I thought we aren't moving forward and we're throwing away a season that is wide open in a very average league.

Last season was already nose diving before he came in and our performances, results and goals that we were conceding weren't sustainable and was only going to end up with us dropping down the table. After 16 games, we had won 9, drew 3 and lost 4. Then we lost Palmer to a season ending injury and Williams' last 10 games after that were won 4, drew 0, lost 6. Do that for the remaining 20 games after and we end with W21, D3, L22, 66 points and still not in the play-offs.

He had the summer and despite some decent recruitment, we didn't fill enough holes in the squad and the injuries have been a problem, but there has been enough on the pitch to get points. Despite beating Swindon, we were poor. We lost to Gills and Vale in big games (Gills were 2nd at the time). At Morecambe we were poor as well and despite a good first half against Carlisle and eventually winning the game, the mentality shown in that game showed our lack of ruthlessness and relentlessness to go for the kill, rather than being bailed out by Alex Bass on more than one occasion. Harrogate at home was a good performance but we should have pelted them. Barrow and Crewe were very lackluster and there was enough to take 4 points from Newport (W) and Walsall (D). I just don't think we are playing at a good enough intensity and we don't have a mentality good enough to fight for promotion, never mind win promotion. The reason why he won't go yet is because January is around the corner and we've most likely got our targets lined up and he's still got 2 years left on his deal and if we got rid, then we'd have to pay him, Matty and Craig.

[Piethagoram 𝕏 @piethagoram]

Totally endorse what @ARLukomski has written

[Robbie 𝕏 @Robbie_NCFC]

Can't believe what I'm reading on here post match.

It was a really bad day at the office for the Notts team.

Stuart Maynard came out post match & apologised to the fans. He didn't make any excuses and took the responsibility for the defeat. That's what good leaders do. 

We have to give Salford the credit for their win, because they had a plan and it worked perfectly for them. They were just better than Notts on every area of the pitch on Saturday.

But I don't understand the pile on from a few members on here post match against Maynard.

Reality check. Notts have had so many injuries to key players, but despite that, & due to the effort of the players available to Stuart, Notts are still just three points from a play off position & there are still 81 points to play for. 

Three teams in addition to Notts out of the top eleven lost yesterday, Doncaster, MK Dons & Grimsby. 

Notts are still very much in the hunt to get success this season. It's far too early to write the team off just yet.

Next week Notts play Bradford at home. A good result will put Notts back on track. 

To say that Maynard is out of his depth is frankly a ludicrous assertion. A change of manager isn't going to make a difference, & may actually make things worse.

Notts fans need to just calm down, take a chill pill, & cheer on the team next Saturday at Meadow Lane.

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alford secured back-to-back home wins with a controlled performance guiding them to a 3-0 victory over Notts County.

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[Robbie 𝕏 @Robbie_NCFC]

11 hours ago, Piethagoram said:

The #Notts crowd turned up for a 1230h kick off in great numbers. Totally let down, Maynard, his staff, the players. An utter disgrace of a performance

How about giving the Salford team credit for playing really well. It's going to happen a few times in a season, where the opposing team win because they play well, & nullify the Notts threat.

[Piethagoram 𝕏 @piethagoram]

@Robbie May I echo what was said by the Notts supporters around me. Salford were not actually that good. 

[Fan of Big Tone 𝕏 @mainstandpie]

I’ve got to agree with @Robbie Notts had a bad day, no one can deny that, it was the worse performance this season BUT to call for the managers head and bring someone else in is a bit silly. Why can’t Notts fans stick together, stick with the team and the management? What’s next, call for the owners to go? Let’s not get carried away, we lost to a better team on the day.

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[Piethagoram 𝕏 @piethagoram]

Adding to @ARLukomskiexcellent analysis, I do find frustrating is the inability to find solutions to a low block defence. We all thought the wing backs brought in were the solution, having both won promotion with Crawley. I like Stuart, but now like @ARLukomski"I am pretty much Maynard out now to be honest. "

Yes, it was very bad yesterday. Yes, we have had injuries to key players, but yesterday, there were times we lost our footballing philosophy completely. Are Stuart's coaching staff good enough?

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[Robbie 𝕏 @Robbie_NCFC]

1 hour ago, Fan of Big Tone said:

I’ve got to agree with @Robbie Notts had a bad day, no one can deny that, it was the worse performance this season BUT to call for the managers head and bring someone else in is a bit silly. Why can’t Notts fans stick together, stick with the team and the management? What’s next, call for the owners to go? Let’s not get carried away, we lost to a better team on the day.

Totally agree @Fan of Big Tone We know that the fans are upset, I'm upset myself that we lost, but we should all take a step back and just admit that we were outplayed totally by a team for the first time this season, and just move on to the next game. 

Maynard and his coaching team have done well to keep Notts competitive for all this time with up to 8 key players missing at times.

I say again, 81 POINTS TO PLAY FOR. Notts just 3 POINTS FROM THE PLAYOFFS, with everything to play for.

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[Robbie 𝕏 @Robbie_NCFC]

49 minutes ago, Piethagoram said:

 

I think he should have waited & reflected on it before he gave his report & ratings for the players.
I'll repeat again that Salford outplayed us because they played well & used the pitch & their tactics to their advantage. We should credit them for that.

We were totally outplayed on the day & just need to learn from it

Other organisations rate the Notts players, in the low 5/10 (Bass) to the high 6/10 bracket, (Crowley).