Donald Trump Presidency: A Dawn of a New Age?

[Robbie 𝕏 @Robbie_NCFC]

At 5pm UK time Donald Trump will begin his second term as the 47th President of the United States.

Some British politicians have gone over to the States to witness his inauguration.

There will be one noticeable absentee from the event, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer.

Will Donald Trump's Presidency be the dawn of a new age of peace & prosperity or will his Presidency be a false dawn.

Suella Braverman is in Washington for the event and here are her thoughts.

 

[DangerousSausage]

4 hours ago, Robbie said:

Will Donald Trump's Presidency be the dawn of a new age of peace & prosperity

Short answer: no.

Starmer hasn't gone because he wasn't invited. Neither was the German chancellor or president, or indeed any other leading European politician apart from Georgia Meloni from Italy. In their place is a motley crew of brown nosers and cap doffers from far-right parties, including not one but two representatives from Germany's AfD, a party so extreme that even the French National Front refuses to work with them.

It's just as well in my opinion, the government shouldn't demean themselves by sucking up to him. We need to disentagle ourselves from the US in the same way as from Russia over the last few years.

Edit: It's no surprise to see Braverman attempting to milk him as well.

[Super_Danny_Allsopp]

1 hour ago, DangerousSausage said:

Short answer: no.

Starmer hasn't gone because he wasn't invited. Neither was the German chancellor or president, or indeed any other leading European politician apart from Georgia Meloni from Italy. In their place is a motley crew of brown nosers and cap doffers from far-right parties, including not one but two representatives from Germany's AfD, a party so extreme that even the French National Front refuses to work with them.

It's just as well in my opinion, the government shouldn't demean themselves by sucking up to him. We need to disentagle ourselves from the US in the same way as from Russia over the last few years.

Edit: It's no surprise to see Braverman attempting to milk him as well.

Very true about the AfD.

 

As for disentangling ourselves from the United states - I disagree. Who would we turn to? China? Certainly our current government will be more ideologically aligned with them - but I'm not comfortable with that. I know your answer will be Europe, but that's like mooring your boat to the titanic after it hit the iceberg.

[Piethagoram 𝕏 @piethagoram]

Suella dodging answers to questions. Well that is a surprise

Perhaps @Robbie would like to list all the names of British Prime Ministers that have attended previous inaugurations?

[Robbie 𝕏 @Robbie_NCFC]

@DangerousSausage

Why would the UK disentangle itself from the US. That would be absolute madness?

I would like to see the English speaking Countries have closer relations. 

The US, Canada, UK, Australia & New Zealand should work together more closely. As independent Countries yes, but a free trade deal between them & a closer military alliance would be beneficial to all five.

As for aligning ourselves closer to the EU instead of the US. I agree with @Super_Danny_Allsopp It would be like mooring your boat to the titanic after it hit the iceberg.

Good try at deflecting @Piethagoram but Donald Trump not inviting Starmer & most of the EU Countries leaders, is a complete humiliation for hapless Starmer & the rest of them.

[DangerousSausage]

@Super_Danny_Allsopp some interesting points there and the honest answer is that I don't know. China is obviously not trustworthy. The reflexive answer by many centrists is the EU, but looking at political developments there they're going to Trumpland very quickly. We're potentially heading into a world where the US and Europe are going down the road trodden by Russia and new allies will be needed.

As for disentangling @Robbie, Trump could very easily pass an executive order that causes serious harm to the UK simply because he's having a bad day or read something he didn't like on X. Nobody is able or willing to stop him. I'm not saying cease all trade and cooperation, but the less exposed we are to that man's whims the better. When Russia marched into Ukraine, Germany had a big job on replacing the gas supplies they'd previously received from Russia - the lights could very easily have gone off.

As for trade, the idea that the US favour us because of the "special relationship" is a fantasy. Trump sees the world in a transactional way and is fixated on reducing the US trade deficit. Previous administrations have tolerated it because they saw trade as a way to spread soft power, but not this one. Any trade deal struck with the US would be disadvantageous to us, otherwise they wouldn't bother with it. Do you like having food safety standards? And more military cooperation? Do you want to see British troops in Panama getting Trump his canal back? 

"More trade" sounds fine until you consider the details. Australia would want to export more meat to the UK, hurting British farmers that cannot operate on a level playing field - Australia has vast, fully automated farms the size of whole countries. There's a reason why tariffs exist.