9 minutes ago, Elite_pie said:

The club have made a very clear and specific statement stating "He's asked to leave the club directly and via email through his agent".  Aborah has made a few vague tweets saying basically nothing.  Firstly, I can't believe Fullarton would openly lie, and secondly if he did lie I can't believe that Aborah would just sit there quietly and not issue a denial.  

That is a point but it could be reserved back to Fullarton.

Why did he not just out and say this sooner?

Someone claiming to be connected to the club has posted this elsewhere:

"Stanley and Ricardo were good friends, had a great professional relationship and came to the club based on him. The manner in which Ricardo was told to leave is the reason Aborah has refused to play - the club were ruthless in the sacking of Moniz. No opportunity to say goodbye to staff, players or his own backroom team - forced out the door in a style reminscent of a public hanging - one that left Ricardo's confidence in shatters and was hugely disrespectful in any line of work.

Subsequently because of this Stanley is refusing to play for Notts on the basis of the treatment they have shown to Ricardo not because of his loyalty but due to the complete disrespect shown to his manager on departure."
 

Now I don't know if it's true or not, but if it is then Aborah's actions are a disgrace.  He signed a contract to play for Notts County, not to play for Ricardo Moniz.  His loyalty should be to the fans who pay his wages, not to a sacked manager.

37 minutes ago, Elite_pie said:

I think the fact that Aborah is hugely popular at the club and Fullarton is hugely unpopular is clouding people's judgement on this issue.  Putting aside personal likes and dislikes and concentrating on what both parties have said, it's hard to see how anyone can support Aborah.

hit the nail on the head....

Why would a new manager disregard a player after 2 days who he himself last night described as 'Quality with ability' ????

Some folk dont like JF and thats entirely up to them but to suggest he would cast aside a quality player for no other reason than , after 2 days , he 'doesn't like him' is quite frankly ...bonkers

If any player had stood up and said about the club you love ' I dont want to be here' then every fan to a man/woman would personally show them the door...but somehow on this occassion it appears ok? why is that?

JF has explained last night that he didnt 'out' this earlier as he wanted to try and let Aborah change his mind...which he clearly hasnt and , given the level of crticism that he has received over Aborah, I'm only surprised he didnt do it earlier.

Everyone has an opinion , I just dont subscribe to the view that JF bulleted this guy having known him for less than 48 hours at a new club...it just doesn't stack up

 

also if Stan didn't wanna play why has he been on the bench under Fullarton a few games if he doesn't want to be here makes zero sense at all and again it doesn't add up to what Fullarton is telling us 

That's correct, Stanley was on the bench for Fullertons first 2/3 games but his injury was still around so it can't have been as soon as he came in

jamie could have made a clear statement weeks ago, if that post is true it would highlight more disturbing behaviour which i choose to ignore.

i will base my opinion on what we have seen and heard.

If that was true @Elite_pie, why did Aborah play in the match immediately following Moniz's sacking? Likewise, Aborah was on the bench against Luton under Fullarton - why would JF name a sub who had refused to play? Either he'd gone completely barmy, or the claim that SA refused to play following Moniz's departure / JF's arrival simply isn't true.

I don't this can be resolved by the player and manager on their own, I think there has been some interference from above and now Fullarton is tying himself in knots trying to explain the situation. It's the only explanation that makes the slightest jot of sense.

37 minutes ago, Elite_pie said: I think the fact that Aborah is hugely popular at the club and Fullarton is hugely unpopular is clouding people's judgement on this issue.  Putting aside personal likes and dislikes and concentrating on what both parties have said, it's hard to see how anyone can support Aborah.

hit the nail on the head....

Why would a new manager disregard a player after 2 days who he himself last night described as 'Quality with ability' ????

Some folk dont like JF and thats entirely up to them but to suggest he would cast aside a quality player for no other reason than , after 2 days , he 'doesn't like him' is quite frankly ...bonkers

If any player had stood up and said about the club you love ' I dont want to be here' then every fan to a man/woman would personally show them the door...but somehow on this occassion it appears ok? why is that?

JF has explained last night that he didnt 'out' this earlier as he wanted to try and let Aborah change his mind...which he clearly hasnt and , given the level of crticism that he has received over Aborah, I'm only surprised he didnt do it earlier.

Everyone has an opinion , I just dont subscribe to the view that JF bulleted this guy having known him for less than 48 hours at a new club...it just doesn't stack up

 

If he said that 2 days after JF arrived then why on earth was he on the sub's bench 14 days into JFs tenure ?

1 hour ago, Elite_pie said:

The club have made a very clear and specific statement stating "He's asked to leave the club directly and via email through his agent".  Aborah has made a few vague tweets saying basically nothing.  Firstly, I can't believe Fullarton would openly lie, and secondly if he did lie I can't believe that Aborah would just sit there quietly and not issue a denial.  

they claim to have emails  they also claim a billionaire is wanting to buy us one thing claiming another thing proving when I see these emails with my own two eyes il belive it 

also aborah also tweeted have to be careful what I say now which tells you he can't just tell us what he thinks of Fullarton as he stated it as professionalism 

1 hour ago, NewNottsFan said:

hit the nail on the head....

Why would a new manager disregard a player after 2 days who he himself last night described as 'Quality with ability' ????

Some folk dont like JF and thats entirely up to them but to suggest he would cast aside a quality player for no other reason than , after 2 days , he 'doesn't like him' is quite frankly ...bonkers

If any player had stood up and said about the club you love ' I dont want to be here' then every fan to a man/woman would personally show them the door...but somehow on this occassion it appears ok? why is that?

JF has explained last night that he didnt 'out' this earlier as he wanted to try and let Aborah change his mind...which he clearly hasnt and , given the level of crticism that he has received over Aborah, I'm only surprised he didnt do it earlier.

Everyone has an opinion , I just dont subscribe to the view that JF bulleted this guy having known him for less than 48 hours at a new club...it just doesn't stack up

 

so everyone got a fair chance didn't they like Fullarton said Snidjers hasn't had a chance boom discarded valencic scores on his debut tossed to one side hmmm everyone has had a fair chance ain't they ????????

I suppose Burke has had a fair chance to and Spencer who isn't good enough but yet at Cambridge had 2 in 2 yea okay.

Youre deluded if you think Fullarton hasn't brought this on himself the bloke has no idea wait til say when rovers hit us for 6 hope he gets out cause we are now 17-18th but it's okay Fullarton will save us.

can't wait to Spencer comes back to the lane aswell least we will see a decent striker 

@Modern Fan 1862 ???? Thanks MF...you have made my point quite well for me ...This conversation is about Aborah and what he has or hasn't done ...your opinion of him  , I feel, clouds your judgement on this one

Let me ask you a question then....If Aborah has said he only signed for Moniz and not Notts County and , as such , wasn't interested...would you still want him at your club? Just a yes or no will do ? Not a question about anyone else...just that question? yes you'd want him or no, you wouldn't? 

so you're telling me it has took Fullarton 8 games now to come out an say something which he knew 2 days of entering the building ? 

Seems very strange that he has left it 8 games that seems extremley odd very odd 

5 minutes ago, NewNottsFan said:

If Aborah has said he only signed for Moniz and not Notts County and , as such , wasn't interested...would you still want him at your club?

You keep repeating this as if it were gospel, yet one glance at Aborah's appearance stats will tell you that Stanley Aborah has been involved with the matchday squad on more than one occasion since Moniz's sacking. So either Fullarton named a sub he knew would refuse to play, or the claim that SA refused to play from day one/two of JF's reign isn't true.

3 minutes ago, Modern Fan 1862 ???? said:

so you're telling me it has took Fullarton 8 games now to come out an say something which he knew 2 days of entering the building ? 

Seems very strange that he has left it 8 games that seems extremley odd very odd 

I notice you didnt answer my question MF?

He explained last night why the delay? Why do you choose to ignore that? I suggest its because you dont like him and that's fine...I'm only suggesting that its clouding your judgement on this one.

So I'll ask again ...If Aborah has stated that he isnt interested in Notts as he signed for Moniz and not the club...would you still want him at Notts?

5 minutes ago, NewNottsFan said:

@Modern Fan 1862 ???? Thanks MF...you have made my point quite well for me ...This conversation is about Aborah and what he has or hasn't done ...your opinion of him  , I feel, clouds your judgement on this one

Let me ask you a question then....If Aborah has said he only signed for Moniz and not Notts County and , as such , wasn't interested...would you still want him at your club? Just a yes or no will do ? Not a question about anyone else...just that question? yes you'd want him or no, you wouldn't? 

one please prove where abroah has stated he only came for moniz in writing will do where he said this ?

Also people have been tweeting him that and he stated he didn't jus sign for moniz so that's that one 

Now second if he didn't wanna play or whatever as you keep telling us all why the hell didn't he say sod this I ain't gonna be on the bench when he was on it seems odd a player who doesn't wanna be here apparently?

Also why would he bother turning up for training or playing in the reserves he doesn't wanna be here Rember if I didn't wanna be in at work why the hell would I turn up like abroah does?

Now if he was doing what mcleod did at Crawley not turning up for training or games or team photos and making a huge scene I'd be more incline to belive you no disrespect to you but until you have proof that my eyes can fully see and read I don't belive you simple as that.

If you end up being right fair enuf il apologise but like I said if the club have emails and so on an such let's seem em so we can all out this to bed they have nothing to worry about they have the proof apparently to everyone's answer