Coronavirus

[Super_Danny_Allsopp]

23 hours ago, Joshua said:

Close the schools!! How many outbreaks does it take before this happens.

My school are now mixing forms because of the amount of pupils now requiring to self isolate. When we went back, our head of year said it would happen if 5 pupils from the school had contracted COVID-19. Who's keeping it open then?

Closing the schools is all well and good for the teenagers mostly, who (at least from what I've seen) are unable or uncapable of socially distancing from each other. It will impact their education, but that is another concern.

The schools cannot close for children that are unable to look after themselves at home. The economy needs to run and parents need to work, plus education at those younger years are vital and can't be put on hold for a year. 

[Piethagoram 𝕏 @piethagoram]

@Super_Danny_AllsoppSorry, but have to take issue with your view of "propaganda nonsense"

Grant Shapps allegedly persuaded Boris for continuing flights into Heathrow from the high risk Covid hotspots, such as china, northern Italy, USA. Heathrow hotels could have been used for quarantine, but no, the passengers dispersed by tube etc, in crowded carriages, the ability of Covid 19 to infect not just 1 but hundreds or thousands quickly in that scenario. 

South Korea  is a better example too look at... under 500 deaths..

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-how-south-koreas-track-and-trace-system-has-kept-death-count-below-500-12103124

UK Government incompetence, across the board. both in decision making or lack of and ££££ wasted trying to get PPE

[Super_Danny_Allsopp]

3 hours ago, Piethagoram said:

@Super_Danny_AllsoppSorry, but have to take issue with your view of "propaganda nonsense"

Grant Shapps allegedly persuaded Boris for continuing flights into Heathrow from the high risk Covid hotspots, such as china, northern Italy, USA. Heathrow hotels could have been used for quarantine, but no, the passengers dispersed by tube etc, in crowded carriages, the ability of Covid 19 to infect not just 1 but hundreds or thousands quickly in that scenario. 

South Korea  is a better example too look at... under 500 deaths..

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-how-south-koreas-track-and-trace-system-has-kept-death-count-below-500-12103124

UK Government incompetence, across the board. both in decision making or lack of and ££££ wasted trying to get PPE

Which is a valid argument you can make, yes, they should've stopped the flights from those key areas. However quarantining all arrivals is an elimination tactic that can't be used long-term for a country like the U.K. It involves a complete lock-down of borders OR mandatory enforcement of quarantine hotels or camps (this is one of the draconian things that NZ has adopted). A complete lock-down of borders is hardly going to fly with the Brexit transition period, plus I'm sure a hard border (which it would effectively be) in N.I violates the Good Friday agreement, even though it could be claimed it would be 'temporary' (lasting at least 1 1/2 years).


South Korea is again comparing apples to oranges. Firstly, South Korea is much more prepared for this than any European country as they've been here before a few times, so they have a much more refined strategy and their populace were more aware of the general procedures. Additionally, South Korea is far more digitised than most if not all of Western Europe, including the UK. Their track and trace system is technologically impressive, but quite invasive, including using credit card purchases to trace movement and alerting people to the age, appearance and location of those infected. This wouldn't be tolerated throughout most of W. Europe, which is why you see much more anonymous tracking apps that are undoubtedly less effective. 

South Korea only has one land border to another country, much like us, but nobody wants a DMZ setup between us and Ireland. 
 

[Piethagoram 𝕏 @piethagoram]

With respect @Super_Danny_Allsopp, my emphasis was on accepting flights from the key "Covid 19" hotspots.

One must also say the people of South Korea are far more disciplined than the people in the UK. They comply, in general,  with what the government requires of them. In the UK, we still have anti maskers in sufficient numbers who couldn't care less

[Super_Danny_Allsopp]

3 hours ago, Piethagoram said:

One must also say the people of South Korea are far more disciplined than the people in the UK. They comply, in general,  with what the government requires of them. In the UK, we still have anti maskers in sufficient numbers who couldn't care less

For the most part, yep! They still have their morons though, especially religious ones: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53803011

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[Elite_pie]

So on the same day that the Education Secretary claims "we got a coronavirus vaccine first because we are a 'much better country' than France, Belgium and the US", the UK death toll passes 60,000.  Try telling the relatives and friends of those  60,000 victims how good we are.  Political point scoring at it's very lowest.

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[Joshua]

On 26/11/2020 at 17:15, Super_Danny_Allsopp said:

Closing the schools is all well and good for the teenagers mostly, who (at least from what I've seen) are unable or uncapable of socially distancing from each other. It will impact their education, but that is another concern.

The schools cannot close for children that are unable to look after themselves at home. The economy needs to run and parents need to work, plus education at those younger years are vital and can't be put on hold for a year. 

I get all that.

When you have multiple pupils contracting COVID-19 and your school decides to start mixing forms because the amount of cases are causing classes to become small. It's not the way to handle it. A friend of mine came in the other day, felt unwell but school insisted that if you show no signs of the Coronavirus you are still fit to come in. He got tested later that day and confirmed to be positive.

This will put others at risk, schools should close for anyone who can be at home safely.

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[DangerousSausage]

I wasn't sure where else to put it, so I'll put it here. The worse The Situation becomes, the more I switch off from football. In theory it should do me good having football to watch as it gives me something else to think about, but the worse the pandemic gets, the more futile and pointless football feels (obviously this doesn't apply to the prediction league, which is the really serious business).

Here in Germany, our politicians have spent the summer congratulating themselves how well they handled it, and when the second wave came the state premiers ignored the advice of the experts and kept everything apart from pubs and restaurants open. And now, more than a month later, with 30,000 daily cases (6,000 more than a week ago), hospitals filling up and the track and trace system completely overwhelmed, the shops are closing but schools will remain open for the last three days before the holidays. So they've failed to check the pandemic AND have torpedoed the economy at the same time. The worst of both worlds.

I can't wait to vote the fools out of office.

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