Hidden payments to the monarchy

[Piethagoram 𝕏 @piethagoram]

 

[Robbie 𝕏 @Robbie_NCFC]

Is this an anti Monarchy article?

If the Royal Family don't make a profit from providing a service, someone else will.

The Royal Family do lots of good work in the service of this Country, & also promote this Country abroad so well too.

They also bring in much needed cash from tourism

They don't get paid a salary for the work they do, apart from the sovereign grant, which pays expenses such as.

Staff salaries

Security

Travel

Maintenance of royal residences

The King's personal household  

This works out at less than £2 per person per year which is very good value for what they do.

[Wheelbarrow repair man]

In answer to your Question @Robbie. I would say Yes. What our Comrades in the News fails to do is to tell both sides of the Story. Of the amount of money the Royals bring into the country and the amount of Tax that is paid on such land ownership. Plus the Main Stream Media make up stories to try and move the Blame of the Government and their own short comings by producing News reports such as this. There as been a Monarchy in England Britain and finally the United Kingdom for over 1,000 years so they must be doing something right. In that time there as been Good Monarchs, Bad Monarchs Strong and Weak Monarchs. It seems since the Death of our late Queen that the Anti Monarchists are trying to oust the New King it's happened before in other Reigns and will continue as long as there is a Monarchy. The Main Problem nowadays is the Reigning King unlike his forebears can not throw certain Public Figures and M.P's into the Tower.

Maybe the Present Anti Monarchists, would prefer a Leader like oh I Don't Know lets say Vladimir Putin, who don't understand if anybody like that got into Power, they would be the First to be taken down a Dark Alley and have a Bullet put through their head.

Plus if it's a Hidden Payments to the Monarchy, then it isn't very well Hidden if everybody knows About It.

[Robbie 𝕏 @Robbie_NCFC]

Agree with your sentiments @Wheelbarrow repair man

Can't imagine this Country could ever become a republic especially with the calibre of politicians we have from the MS Parties at this time.

As far as I'm concerned an Head of State has to be politically neutral.

[Piethagoram 𝕏 @piethagoram]

This is not an anti monarchy article, more an investigation of "hidden" payments to the monarchy from the NHS, schools, the Mersey ferry

In a time when you are complaining about the withdrawal of winter fuel payments, significant sums of money are being transferred into the monarchy's own coffers, from govt organisations under severe financial pressures

So when people are freezing to death this winter, the monarchy just count the wealth coming in. This is hypocritical. 

Royal estates 'receive millions from public bodies and charities'

WWW.BBC.CO.UK

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The private estates of King Charles and Prince William have received millions of pounds from contracts with taxpayer-funded bodies, according to a new documentary.

 

[Piethagoram 𝕏 @piethagoram]

King and Prince William’s estates ‘making millions from charities and public services’ | Monarchy | The Guardian

WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM

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Duchies of Cornwall and Lancaster likely to make at least £50m from leasing land to services such as NHS and schools, according to investigation

 

[Robbie 𝕏 @Robbie_NCFC]

@Wheelbarrow repair man is right & I agree. This is an anti Monarchy article.

It's a desperate attempt to deflect from the targeting of hard up pensioners, farmers & others by this terrible government,who are sinking in the polls like a stone.

The only person responsible for the increase in the winter fuel payment is two tier Kier & is awful cabal who made that decision themselves, when they didn't have to.

[Piethagoram 𝕏 @piethagoram]

@Robbie "The only person responsible for the increase in the winter fuel payment is two tier Kier"

So basically you are saying it's OK for NHS, schools, Mersey Ferry to feather bed the monarchy with extra £ hidden under the Duchies...

You complain about winter fuel payments, and nothing on the £22bn black hole left by the last Tory government.

Rejoin the EU's SM & CM would deliver £48bn annual extra tax revenues.... but your ideological stance on Brexit prevents acknowledgment, s everyone pays more tax to make up for this

[Robbie 𝕏 @Robbie_NCFC]

Putting words in people's mouths again @Piethagoram. 

Do I have to repeat it. Liebour are the government of the Country.They are responsible for the unpopular policies they are pursuing. No one else 

Stop trying to deflect by bringing the hard working Royal Family into this. Your precious Liebour Party is losing popularity daily & trying to deflect from an hopeless position is somewhat pathetic to be honest.

Even Unite are taking the government to court over the this government's mean cutting of the pensioners winter fuel allowance.

Liebour are going to spend over £70 billion on projects but cannot afford 1.4 billion for pensioners this winter. It's pathetic.

[Wheelbarrow repair man]

 What a Load of Cr@P.  @Piethagoram (with respect) You trust the BBC the Observer and Channel 4, to Give A Fair and Honest Point Of View? And want to go back to be ruled by unelected Elites to make our lives Miserable Again, while they line their pockets. The People of the Country voted to come out of the EU in a Democratic Vote. To Return to the EU would Prove that this country is Nothing  Better than  Communist State where you have No Rights No Free Will  No Free Speech and You Do As You Are Told, You Will Own Nothing And  Will Be Grateful And Happy. Klaus Swab who's Father was a Nazi. The Reason for  Brexit Not Working Is the Failure of the Tory Government to Go About it the Correct Manner the UK is still Shackled to the EU by being a Member of the ECHR and other European Bodies, the Tories Totally Failed in what they Promised a Complete And Total Break  Away from the EU. It will be No Better under the Current Government, because like the Tories before them, they are all Singing from the Same Hymn Sheet.

It is also Interesting how this Topic began about so called Hidden Payments about the Monarchy, only to be Hi Jacked by your Political Views.

 

 

[Robbie 𝕏 @Robbie_NCFC]

@bang on @Wheelbarrow repair man These sort of threads are basically used to push an agenda on anyone that will read it. 

Personally as I've said on countless occasions, I'd rather not have political discussion on this board. 

There are plenty of political boards out there to discuss these things rather than on here.

Political discussion sows division & that's unfortunate because we all have a common interest in supporting Notts..

[Fan of Big Tone 𝕏 @mainstandpie]

2 hours ago, Robbie said:

Personally as I've said on countless occasions, I'd rather not have political discussion on this board

I’m not being funny and I agree but to be fair @Robbie you seem to put more political posts on the forum than most.

[Robbie 𝕏 @Robbie_NCFC]

All due respect @Fan of Big Tone but I think that the number of political posts that I've posted on PON  pales into insignificance to the number of political posts that  Mr Piethagoram has posted on here over the years.

I am just trying to ensure that there is a balance of political opinion on here, but like I said, I'd rather there be no political posts on here in the first place.

I think the board would attract many more members if PON was a non political community, but that's just my opinion & I'm sure others will either agree or disagree with that.

[Fan of Big Tone 𝕏 @mainstandpie]

@Robbie I agree I think political discussion should be either banned or hidden so that only people interested can subscribe and join in.

At the moment there doesn’t seem much balance though as both yourself and @Wheelbarrow repair man have a different political allegiance to @Piethagoram

[Wheelbarrow repair man]

I'm all for Banning Political Comment Completely on this Site ( something I have Stated in the Past) Unfortunately there always seems that certain Members seem Hell Bent on Dragging their Political Views onto it under some other Guise. this Topic is headed The Hidden Payments To The Monarchy. It's Debated then suddenly the So Called £22 Billion  Pound Black Hole left by the Tory Government is Bought Up Why? Why Britain should Go Back into the EU Why? The State of the NHS Education Why? This as Nothing to Do with the Topic in hand.  I asked Questions about the Monarchy that haven't Been Answered  and it seems along with @Robbie that we are Classed as the Bad Guys for Disagreeing with @Piethagoram Political Views?

I Really Do Hope that @Chris Reads These Comments @Fan of Big Tone and Says ENOUGH, AND BANS ALL POLITICAL COMMENT ON PON. Because all it Does is Divide Fans who have their Own Political Beliefs and Cause Bad Blood Between Supporters of Notts County F.C .  Debating The Magpies Fortunes is the Real Reason why @Chris Started this Whole Site in the First Place. KEEP POLITICS OUTOF SPORT AND OFF THIS SITE!!

[Piethagoram 𝕏 @piethagoram]

I am fed up when an important investigative journalism is subjected to challenge and to be deemed anti-monarchy.

I am also fed up defending against posts originating from far right propogandists, as if their views have any validity.

6 hours ago, Wheelbarrow repair man said:

 What a Load of Cr@P.  @Piethagoram (with respect) You trust the BBC the Observer and Channel 4, to Give A Fair and Honest Point Of View? And want to go back to be ruled by unelected Elites to make our lives Miserable Again, while they line their pockets. The People of the Country voted to come out of the EU in a Democratic Vote. To Return to the EU would Prove that this country is Nothing  Better than  Communist State where you have No Rights No Free Will  No Free Speech and You Do As You Are Told, You Will Own Nothing And  Will Be Grateful And Happy. Klaus Swab who's Father was a Nazi. The Reason for  Brexit Not Working Is the Failure of the Tory Government to Go About it the Correct Manner the UK is still Shackled to the EU by being a Member of the ECHR and other European Bodies, the Tories Totally Failed in what they Promised a Complete And Total Break  Away from the EU. It will be No Better under the Current Government, because like the Tories before them, they are all Singing from the Same Hymn Sheet.

It is also Interesting how this Topic began about so called Hidden Payments about the Monarchy, only to be Hi Jacked by your Political Views.

 

 

Sorry @Wheelbarrow repair man This shows your utter failure to understand international environments that the UK has to operate in. You mention "unelected elites"...well that's the UK House of Lords?  What about the freedoms lost by UK's own citizens.

I have said many times before, you are welcome to debate on twitter. 

 

[Robbie 𝕏 @Robbie_NCFC]

Trouble is @Piethagoram the #FBPE clientele on X don't debate do they. They think they are right & everyone else is wrong. Sound familiar?

For @Wheelbarrow repair man sake this is what the  Hashtag FBPE is on X

"The acronym FBPE, often used as the hashtag #FBPE, pops up frequently on social media, especially Twitter. It stands for ‘follow back, Pro-European Union’ & is the label used by a campaign to cultivate a strong pro-European voice online".

Source Google.

[Wheelbarrow repair man]

So Because we disagree with you @Piethagoramwe're Far Right? You don't Even Know Me. Sorry Comrade My Bad.

Then Raise The Scarlet Standard High,

Beneath It's Shade, We'll Live And Die

Though Cowards Flinch And Traitors Sneer,

We'll Keep The Red Flag Flying Here.

I'm Patriotic I'm Proud to Be  a White Englishman. But I suppose in your Book that Makes Me Racist. Debate on Twitter or X as it is. No Thanks. All that means is people like you will back you up and Feed your Insecurities.  You Lost your Argument the Moment You Insulted Me by calling Me Far Right. And you're Not Worth Debating, My Final Words On This Subject.

[Piethagoram 𝕏 @piethagoram]

12 hours ago, Piethagoram said:

I am also fed up defending against posts originating from far right propogandists, as if their views have any validity.

@Wheelbarrow repair man @Robbie

Actually, you have all misunderstood...it's about posts quoting Guido Fawkes, Bernie, Net Zero Watch and the like.

 

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This topic quickly went off track, and became about opinions/alternative motives rather than a discussion. It does nothing for politics, nor the community, and only has a domino effect. Therefore, these are my reasons for closing it. I don't believe the initial post is an anti monarch article, that's my personal opinion but the points it raised after hasn't contributed to a productive conversation.