Hasn't the groupthink on Kelle Roos got out of hand? He really hasn't been that bad.

Yes, his first few games were shaky in general. He made 1 awful passing out gaffe which led to the concession of a goal. That can happen to any keeper, as we see in the premiership, week in week out. 1 of those in 12 games isn't a disaster, Slocs for one will know that. 2 in quick succession can cost a keeper his place....3 in a season might be the limit

But I don't think it's that - during his shaky first few games he dropped a couple of high balls. No damage was done, but this can really trigger certain fans. A bit like a button on a baby's toy, or revealing your face from behind your hands can trigger a baby :) And once those fans get that idea in their heads, objectivity flies out of the window.

In reality though, if you discount the first 4 or 5 games, when he might have been pretty nervous and unfamiliar with everybody, I think he's been fine in these last 6 or 7 games. It's even refreshing how quickly and decisively he releases the ball. I don't mind the punching at all, that might help launch a counter attack as well.

Nobody knows how it will work out for him over the season, but surely he deserves fans' support. Can't everyone see the progress over the course of the first dozen games?

I don't get to watch every minute of every game so if he's improving that's good and yes let's get behind him.

His stats do need to improve as currently it's looking like a massive downgrade. He's saved 65% of shots on target (13th best in L2). Last year Bass saved 74% (2nd best). Over a season that projects to 13 more goals let in, a big handicap.

Of course we should be looking for continuous improvement in all of our players.

That's where squad competition comes in. All the squad players want to see their name on the starting eleven team sheet.

Results are improving because of the competitive nature of the players currently in the squad. In the outfield positions this is very true because we have two or three players that can play in a particular position.

Maybe Roos will continue to improve without that competition pushing him, but at the moment there is only young Griffiths & he's still learning his trade, & unfortunately hasn't had much game time.

I would have preferred that the Club would have ensured that they had two goalkeepers who were competent enough to replace each other, either due to poor form or injuries.

If Martin doesn't feel Griffiths good enough, he will have to play him if Roos gets injured. So why not give him some game time now & allow him to show what he can do?

Sure, that kind of adds up @Sheffield Pie, I wonder if you could do a split for that stat for the 1st 6 league games and the the last 6 league games as a comparison?

The return of Montague as Director of Football tells all the squad that there's a fresh performance evaluator with the clout to act on what he sees. this should help to keep all players on their toes, and you'd have to imagine the players brough in by Gagliardi are at a very slight disadvantage to the ones RM brought in himself (Jarvis for example).

If Roos plays well thru to January he might well keep the shirt. Down to him, as it is with every other player.

Edited 4 hours ago4 hr by theAnticlough

6 minutes ago, Robbie said:

If Martin doesn't feel Griffiths good enough, he will have to play him if Roos gets injured. So why not give him some game time now & allow him to show what he can do?

Didn't he play in the that comp that has youth players in it? 

I think that's as far as giving game time can go. Yes, he would play league games if Roos is injured or has a collapse of form. Then we'd be looking at emergency loans or even Slocs getting the gloves out of the attic.  13 league games to go til January. During that time, GK needs will be assessed, but ditto for all positions.

@theAnticlough If Roos gets injured & Notts have to bring in an emergency loan, & that could be a possibility because Roos will be classed as a Senior Goalkeeper, that demonstrates to me that the Club haven't covered the goalkeeping position sufficiently which brings us back to the fact that Notts should have ensured that they had two senior goalkeepers of League 2 ability.

As for Slocombe I don't think he would be considered as an alternative.

If that's the case, then yes - the position isn't as well covered as it needs to be. Let's hope Roos does well for the remaining 13 games this year and the club takes it from there.

1 hour ago, theAnticlough said:

Sure, that kind of adds up @Sheffield Pie, I wonder if you could do a split for that stat for the 1st 6 league games and the the last 6 league games as a comparison?

Quite revealing:

Games 1-6 saved 8 out of 17 = 47%

Games 7-11 saved 14 out of 17 = 82%

The 6 out of 6 shots saved vs Fleetwood helped - maybe a turning point? Interesting to read the MoM thread from that game!

Encouraging @Sheffield Pie. Maybe it was a turning point.

The overall shakiness of the first few matches has gone. Who is in front of him might also play a part. For whatever strange reason, Platt made an erratic start to the season. In contrast, RodMac has been a model of calm and consistency since then. Him and Roos may have develop a good understanding in a short time.

After reading all the comments from other clubs supporters i took an instant dislike to him!!!!!!since watching him live.......nothing as happened to change my mind.....perhaps that may seem quite harsh but perhaps RM will agree and prioritise getting in another keeper???