On 12/12/2018 at 12:43, samwatto2008 said:

I don't get it. I always cringe when you hear working class blokes joke about racism but I just don't understand how you can judge someone from the colour of their skin or how they look. Views on immigration are different from racism but it's sometimes hard for people to not cross the line. With current society though it's hard not to offend anyone with what you say. But there is absolutely no room for it anywhere it society nowadays. Never mind football.

You will find there are a lot of angry, jealous people and THEY spout the nonsense.

Nobody with common sense would judge someone over their colour or anything else, it's improved but people tend to be more offensive than racist in my opinion. There is a fine line with someone calling me "someone of colour" rather than just saying I am black. Neither I consider to be racist but it does when it becomes a matter of them feeling they're better solely due to my skin.

I don't like it, racism is pointless and nobodies better than anyone.

Everyone is good at something and people are special in their own way, I don't mind anyone provided they're friendly. Treat me as I treat you. Football does need to start giving bans to people who are abusive because they only spread hate or negativity.

23 hours ago, CliftonMagpie said:

I don't like it, racism is pointless and nobodies better than anyone.

Everyone is good at something and people are special in their own way, I don't mind anyone provided they're friendly. Treat me as I treat you. Football does need to start giving bans to people who are abusive because they only spread hate or negativity.

Part of the problem is people copy and say things just to be popular or fit in aswell as just being mean. It all spreads and then bullying starts and the person who is on the wrong end of it feels even worse and it all gets way too personal towards the person.

It's just hate or foolishness isn't it?

Young people think its a joke without harm and I am not suggesting this is okay, but a quick laugh for them and without little thought. You can almost see their ignorance but full on racism needs to be tackled too. There's a lot made of it happening in football and sometimes I wonder why the media ignores other incidents, the point I am trying to make is you can't ignore any times. 

You need to tackle all of the times to get a proper result and i know they don't always have the resources but alit of the time they just don't want to deal with it.

It's good to see people talking opening about this difficult subject, seeing and reading @LozCloughSLO and @BigBill it makes me sad. As an older PON member I have always felt repulsed by racism. I have seen a lot of it over the years but I am pleased change has been made, this is a start but this discussion is a reminder that more can be done.

Thanks for sharing opening your thoughts Loz and Big Bill.

There's no room for any of this, if people don't understand we are all the same them they need to wake up. In football or in life, racism is just a nasty hate crime speeaded by simpletons.