Thomas Tuchel New England Manager.

[Robbie]

 

[Robbie]

So the FA have got their man.

Is Thomas Tuchel the right man to take England to the next level by winning an international trophy?

Tuchel will have the choice of picking some of the biggest names in world football. Will he be able to hone them into a great team to take on the best in the World?

The FA think so. Do you?

[DangerousSausage]

Seems a bit of a strange appointment to me given his talent for falling out with people. At least no one can accuse the FA of appointing a "yes man" this time!

It's also a bit sad that we're having to appoint from abroad again. Have English coaches so little to offer? As coaching the England team is very different from being a club manager, I'd have been happy with a "no name" coach who knows the setup and can organise and inspire the players. Whether Carsley would have been an option I don't know. But of course I hope TT does well!

[Wheelbarrow repair man]

Oh Dear Oh Dear Oh Dear. Poor Choice it Doesn't Matter what the Guy has done at Club Level, being a National Side Coach is a whole Different Ball Game. And Coaching the England Team and Being German is Going to throw up a load of Unique Problems, some of which I've touched on, on here. If like it's been stated Tuchel isn't a Yes Man, then he's Not Going to last long with the FA, plus the Fact one of his Major Problems at Chelsea was he couldn't Handle Prima Donna Players, then he's going to have his work cut with some of England's so called Stars.

Eddie Howe should have been Chosen. It's a Dark Day when an Englishman isn't picked to lead his Country. Sean Dyche is another Manager who like Howe had taken an unfancied Team (in his case Burnley) up into the Heady Heights of the Premier League and like Howe Knows how to Mold Players Together and Get Them Playing As A Team, something the Present England Team are in Dire Need Of. I await the Media Headlines when Tuchel's England Team Suffer It's First Defeat.

[Robbie]

I am surprised that he's been appointed because he doesn't seem the sort of chap that will accept being a yes man to the FA.

I've read up on him, & he seems to be a  strict disciplinarian & can be divisive too. I read in the spectator that he had bust ups with players & higher ups.

So it will be interesting how the FA's relationship with him will develop & how the England players warm to him. 

There is no doubt that he is an excellent coach, & a successful one at that. He knows all the England players well, & will be familiar with many top players in the PL 

Now he's been chosen I think we  need to all get behind him & give him a chance. World Cup qualification will be his focus, then hopefully winning the tournament.

[Fan of Big Tone]

Well let’s give him a chance, it could be an inspired appointment or it could be a disaster, time will tell.

[Piethagoram]

 

[Piethagoram]

 

[Robbie]

So Tuchel isn't starting the job of England Manager till January 2025. Who's going to lead England till then?

England have two matches to play before then. Someone will have to pick a team & lead them into those games. This is very strange.

[Piethagoram]

 

[Robbie]

 

[Fan of Big Tone]

6 hours ago, Piethagoram said:

 

Agreed but what do you expect from the mail, it’s not fit to wipe my bum on.

[Robbie]

3 minutes ago, Fan of Big Tone said:

Agreed but what do you expect from the mail, it’s not fit to wipe my bum on.

There are a few more I could mention that would make good loo roll, like the Mirror & the Guardian, but I'll stick with the loo roll.

[Chris]

16 hours ago, Fan of Big Tone said:

Well let’s give him a chance, it could be an inspired appointment or it could be a disaster, time will tell.

I am very disappointed by the appointment, not because he's German but because I don't rate him as a manager. Thomas Tuchel should have been given longer at Chelsea, so it's not that, but I just don't see him as being a strong candidate for an international team.

Danny Mills makes an interesting point about Tuchel missing two games before he takes over. I don't know if he has commitments currently, but I think it's negative that a manager doesn't want to jump into his position with games before - something which would help him in the longer term you would imagine? Gareth Southgate will prove to his doubters, just why he managed to have such success with England despite not being considered the level required going in, and massively being disrespected for what he did achieve during his time.

There will always be negative, and mardy "fans" in football, but I do think appointing from within the U21s is a good way to go about it.

I had no issue personally giving Lee Carsley longer, as I think his knowledge of playing coming up would be something useful in the long run. Anyone appointed is likely to need time, and might not be the best candidate, but it's what they bring to the team which gives me potential in their ability. Tuchel is very unknown at the international level, and I am very doubtful he will get the best out of us.

As it's been stated, there's not a wide range of good candidates, but I just don't feel we had to rush.

[Robbie]

I agree @Chris

One thing Lee Carsley had was time working with the FA regarding the under 21s, he also had the experience of working as an international manager all beit with the junior team.

There is a big difference between being a club manager & an international manager, & Tuchel might not suit it for all we know.

For all the criticism that Gareth Southgate had, he did serve his apprenticeship with the under 21s, & when the time came he moved up to the senior team very smoothly, & became one of the successful England Managers.

[liampie]

i am all for giving thomas tuchel a fair chance and i think from the front runners, he is probably the best name amongst them. lee carsley was never going to be given the job on a full time basis, i dont know why the fa would overlook him but they seem again intent in bringing in a manager that is not english. much like they did when they appointed sven. its them i have an issue with, not tuchel as i believe he is a good manager with young players.

[Robbie]

Chris Wilder.

"I would have preferred an Englishman to represent our country"

 

[allardyces tash]

His nationality doesn't matter. What is important is his ability to get the best out of the players he chooses and his knowledge of tactics. All this "I would have rather had an English manager" is a fairytale belief because there are few good enough English managers ready for such a big appointment. Unfortunately, this is just how it is. While I would love to see Eddie Howe in the role, he has plenty of time yet for this to happen. If not Howe, then who? Lee Carsley was an interesting decision, but I don't think the F.A wanted him either. All this complaining is part of the issue with England. We have a manager now, and we need to get on with it.

[Robbie]

People who say there is a shortage of good home Managers/Coaches , where's the shortage? They all work hard around the Country coaching all levels of sides in the game right up to the PL.

Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd & Arsenal Head Coaches are foreign, but are they really the best available. What makes the best coach. Because a side wins the PL with the most expensive  players available?

Phil Parkinson may get his third promotion on the trot after this season, the way things are going. Why not him for best coach?

Why not him for England Manager?

[Wheelbarrow repair man]

I've said it else Where and I'll Say It Here. The Reason Why No English Coach has been Selected from outside the Premier League is the FA's Snobbery. They are of the Opinion that If an English Coach hasn't Coached in the Premiership ,then that Excludes him From Coaching the England Side. There are plenty of English Coaches, who coach outside the Premier League who could do a Very Good Job Coaching the National Side. As it's been Stated the England Team need to be Molded in to a Team NOT A Bunch of Individuals. But because of the FA's Poor attitude and Poor Choices of Yes Men in the Past England have gotten Nowhere in Winning a Major Tournament, because as the Saying Goes'

YOU GET NOW'T FOR COMING SECOND.

[Robbie]

@Wheelbarrow repair man

When one asks on social media why a home coach wasn't chosen you get, theres a shortage of home coaches. 

There's thousands of home coaches up & down the Country. Like you said, what they really mean is a shortage in the PL.

When one asks, what makes a good coach? There is no answer or the best coaches can handle pressure 

Every single coach in the land has to handle pressure, from the very bottom of the football pyramid to the very top.

But as we have discussed before, A coach as to basically win the champions league to have any chance now..

Funny then that they never chose Clough, Ferguson, Paisley or Tony Barton. I wonder way?