2 hours ago, liampie said:

what happens to the young players that dont make it at the top level? they come down?? i dont see the problem with the jpt.

Why not let it happen organically then?

Why do they have to show so much ignominy to the teams that compete in the cup? 

The name is being changed to the english football league cup, explain to me how that possibly can involve reserve / youth teams?

Thats like the euro championships involving south american teams as they dont have enough competitive games In that region.

 

Why dont they grow a pair and tell the premiership clubs they have to include 5 english players? 

I'm against the whole idea of this and the B team rubbish I mean imagine if we missed out to promotion cause b team Chelsea West Ham were above us.

Take those out we get promotion for instance id be fuming.

Also read a comment somewhere online about what of West Ham b team played milwall that would be Intresting theyd soon scrap it then 

I believe they already have a rule in place where each 'squad' must have 5 english/home grown players but many sign players specifically for that reason and never play them like Richard wright at man city.

Home grown players are never given a chance but that's not surprising given the highest placed English manager is Tony Pulis, why would a manager like Conte or pep give English players a chance if they have a bottomless pit of money they can spend

I wouldn't go to watch Notts play, say Man City's B team. Unless they were giving Messi a run out

 

Maybe a real chance missed to revamp as a new Anglo Scottish Cup, which am sure, would have more attendance potential. How many Supporters of Premier League clubs will pay to watch their Academy team, probably nearer to zero.

It's the Beginning of the End, for the Football League as we know it. By 2020 Well have "5" Leagues.    

I think you're right Canadian... people think that the talk of a new Division 3 will be the end of it. It won't, this is all heading towards 5 leagues with the inclusion of Premier A and B teams.

Football is killing itself

On 11/06/2016 at 01:48, BradtheMiller said:

https://www.change.org/p/the-head-of-the-efl-abandon-the-2016-17-efl-trophy-proposals?recruiter=31417874

PLEASE, PLEASE, IF YOU CARE AS PASSIONATELY AS I DO ABOUT THE FUTURE OF PRO FOOTBALL IN THE UK BELOW PREMIER LEAGUE LEVEL, SIGN THIS PETITION, BOYCOTT THIS TOXIC COMPETITION.

 

 

 

Thanks for the link Brad, happily signed.  I've heard many calls to boycott games over the years, like "don't go against MK Dons", "don't go to show you hate Ray Trew", "don't go to prove this, that or the other".  None of them have ever appealed to me because if Notts are playing at Meadow Lane I try and be there.  I've probably only missed half a dozen home games in the last 5 years, all due to holiday.  But this is different, this is a sneaky way to do what they have wanted to do for a long time, abuse the lower leagues simply to further the Premiership.  We have far fewer supporters, but we have a lot of passion and pretty big gobs when we feel the need.  Time to make our voices heard.   

In a way, this gives us the chance to protest against B teams and concentrate a few minds. If only a couple of hundred people show up to watch us play a B team in this competition, our board will know where the fans stand on this.

On the other hand, however, if we draw Manchester United B and we get a big crowd by JPT standards, they'll feel vindicated. And let's remember that the bar is already set very low here. We need to get active in this case - a boycott of this competition is in the long-term interests of the club and football as a whole.

We are lucky in this country that even the smallest clubs bring about a hundred fans with them, and this contributes to the atmosphere. In Germany I've seen my teams play the B teams of the likes of Schalke, Mönchengladbach, Mainz, Leverkusen, Freiburg and Eintracht Frankfurt - and they didn't bring a single away fan between them. Bayern Munich's B team have a bit of a following, but even they only brought around 50 on a sunny August day. Ever experienced a league match with the away end completely empty? Where there's just silence when the opposition score? It's missing something. Aside from being an abject humiliation of every League One and Two team that takes part.

So, for this competition only, let's have an empty Meadow Lane and hope for a poorly attended final between two B teams. This needs to get scrapped pronto, in all of our interests.

Let's be very very clear about this. This competition is the opening of the door to B teams in the league. Any club that voted in favour is either stupid, can't see the long term picture or have been seduced by the hoped for revenue, which won't happen if no one attends games against the B sides. 

A recommended article on this spotted on the WSC website: http://codalmighty.com/site/ca.php?article=5856

Enlightening that the AGM of the English Football League was held in Portugal (!) and that the Premier League has paid all of one million quid as an "incentive".

Let's be very very clear about this. This competition is the opening of the door to B teams in the league. Any club that voted in favour is either stupid, can't see the long term picture or have been seduced by the hoped for revenue, which won't happen if no one attends games against the B sides. 

Notts actually voted for this trial, I believe most the teams that voted for this is purely because you get more money at the end of it, I quite like the jpt as it gives even a small club like ours a chance to get to Wembley

19 minutes ago, ohstanleyaborah said:

Notts actually voted for this trial, I believe most the teams that voted for this is purely because you get more money at the end of it, I quite like the jpt as it gives even a small club like ours a chance to get to Wembley

Probably because the powers that be at Notts (and most other clubs) were dreaming of drawing Manchester United B and getting a big gate, and to hell with the consequences.

I have to question why the club would vote in favour? I dont think people will attend the games and therefore it makes little sense to vote in support.

These are the alleged 'leaked' plans for this tournament

http://www.againstleague3.co.uk/leaked-efl-trophy-details/

Its absolutely ridiculous, if a team draws in the group stages then it goes to penaltys and the winner gets and extra point...

On the bright side at least we get to play 3 games in this competition....oh yeah, the whole idea for adding B-teams into the league was to reduce fixture congestion [emoji52]