Naturally a chairman will step down if he feels he can't progress the club forward, I put more blame on the people misadvising him but at the same time I acknowledge his mistakes. I just feel this pinpointing of blame won't actually solve anything, we need to get behind a positive vibe and try to make a real difference. It's fine to want Alan Hardy out of the club, in a few months time more might agree.

At this stage I don't, I think he's trying his best.

I just wished when good staff leave, he replaces them with people capable of doing the job well. I feel not enough have and this makes a huge difference to the feel of the club.

Edited December 26, 20187 yr by super_ram

January hopefully will bring in a whole new light but we can only hope because none of us know how its going to go.

On 26/12/2018 at 18:08, ivansneck said:

Hardy should sack those players not performing. He's the only one who can


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How can he sack them?  The only way he can get rid is to pay up their contracts or find another club prepared to take them.  Neither are likely.

20 hours ago, Elite_pie said:

How can he sack them?  The only way he can get rid is to pay up their contracts or find another club prepared to take them.  Neither are likely.

And if he interfered with the club like suggested people would be up in arms still.

How can he sack them?  The only way he can get rid is to pay up their contracts or find another club prepared to take them.  Neither are likely.

Minimum performance standards like the rest of us have in our jobs. Not easy but some club has to do it sometime to stop the total control players have over football in England. I'm about to start a new job with a probationary period and if I'm not performing my contract gets terminated with no pay off. Football needs this urgently.


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Nice idea, but getting rid of a footballer on the basis of him not meeting minimum performance standards wouldn't have a cat in hell's chance in any industrial tribunal.  Unless they are guilty of gross misconduct, once you sign them you are stuck with them until their contract expires.  The blame lies with whoever signed them if they are no good, or with those failing to get the best out of them if they do have some ability.

3 hours ago, Elite_pie said:

Nice idea, but getting rid of a footballer on the basis of him not meeting minimum performance standards wouldn't have a cat in hell's chance in any industrial tribunal.  Unless they are guilty of gross misconduct, once you sign them you are stuck with them until their contract expires.  The blame lies with whoever signed them if they are no good, or with those failing to get the best out of them if they do have some ability.

Voice of sanity from @Elite_pie Failure to invest in appropriate recruitment structures has left us with a failing squad. We are heading downwards ..who will want to join us in January with a potential career ending "Relegated from the EFL" on their cv?

Nice idea, but getting rid of a footballer on the basis of him not meeting minimum performance standards wouldn't have a cat in hell's chance in any industrial tribunal.  Unless they are guilty of gross misconduct, once you sign them you are stuck with them until their contract expires.  The blame lies with whoever signed them if they are no good, or with those failing to get the best out of them if they do have some ability.

I take your point, but what about a series of skill tests taken like an exam. Shoot straight, pass to a colleague, trap the ball, minimum fitness levels? They can all be measured.

Obviously the recruiters are more at fault but they can be sacked easily


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People want Alan Hardy out quicker than Ray Trew? Madness.

At least Alan is man enough to admit his mistakes and try to learn from them, currently he's not let anyone down by not paying the bills and the clubs in quite good hands. He backed Kevin Nolan, the plans was rushed but don't overreact because he's trying. Judge him when he doesn't!

People want Alan Hardy out quicker than Ray Trew? Madness.
At least Alan is man enough to admit his mistakes and try to learn from them, currently he's not let anyone down by not paying the bills and the clubs in quite good hands. He backed Kevin Nolan, the plans was rushed but don't overreact because he's trying. Judge him when he doesn't!

Admit his mistakes and learn from them??? Read the transcript of his recent court appearance. He did exactly the opposite.


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