On 17/10/2020 at 03:45, Alex said:

How do you want to change something and keep Southgate?

this is a very good question.

On 16/10/2020 at 17:14, KB1862 said:

@liampie he doesn't though, he's wasting a lot of talent by calling them up with no proper shot. He may have done in the past but now he's picking his regulars.

I'll happily have him in the next tournament BUT only IF he changes formation and gives players like Grealish who deserves chances to play and drops Pickford and Co. 

He did well in the World Cup because of the formation but then he changes it, we did well. Then it was changed again and is we're going backwards. 2 formations that worked he changed and the one that doesn't he keeps.

i hope he gets the message, i dont feel you unlike some england fans want him to fail. thats clearly not the case.

what i do feel is, we dont afford a manager the most important thing which is time. if he does not succeed in the next major competition than it might be time for him to go, but hes the manager and just like notts we dont see how players train, what there attitudes are like off the pitch or what hes thinking as a manager.

@liampie i get the training thing but the formation hasn't worked on numerous occasions, players have performed and not prformrd, he needs to realise this!

I would give him longer, he's done well until now. England are just a very average team, he has restored a lot of faith and passion. He's given younger players a chance and he might have favourites but so does every manager.

I'm not at the stage where I feel his position is requiring the sack, he's done better than most and just needs to find a system that works best. Under his reign a lot of young players and some senior experienced people have been given a chance that not many would have done.

I think it's worth giving him longer.

@allardyces tash he did restore passion, you're right. But now he's burning his own bridge that he built. He has his favourites but that's why fans are angry, he says players are picked on form. He's going against his own points.

@upthepies the only time players have been given a real chance apart from the world cup, have all been friendlies. Now he's been in the job awhile, he's ignoring them.

If England had been beaten heavier by some of these teams, I would be more positioned to say he should go but he can't help a defender conceding a stupid penalty. Yes, he picks the players but those are the ones he knows/has faith in.

@CliftonMagpie it's not about the margin of defeat, the fact was Denmark dominated us and made us look weak. We couldn't even break on them because of the defensive shape. Same with the games against Iceland and the reverse fixture against Denmark. 

As I've said, I'm not saying he should go. I'm just getting fed up of seeing him pick the same under performers despite having the "form over rep" motto and playing a defensive shape that has failed on more than one occasion. 

As for the penalty, Pickford (one of Southgates golden boys) was at fault for the penalty.