"He was the boss, when he walked in the room. And if you didn't know who was the boss, you soon did."

This is a recent quote about Jimmy Sirrel. For me (apart from "York 2-1 Notts County!) Its been the most telling quote to do with Notts in recent days. Talking to my Dad about watching Notts under Sirrel in the 70s their was a belief that Notts could win against any opposition and would go all out to do so. I think for a football team that belief starts with the manager. In the recent past how many of Notts managers have been 'the boss'? Martin Allen? Moniz? You get the impression that Kiwomya, Curle and Derry had to work to a wider agenda. I don't expect Jamie Fullerton to be the next Jimmy Sirrel, I hope he can build his own successful reputation, but I hope he can be 'the boss' and that we know that when it comes to the players in the match day squad, and the playing style, the buck stops with him, and not the transfer committee, or anyone else.

On initial impressions the big difference with Jimmy is that Jimmy had some "sparkling of gold dust" players like Masson and Rash the Smash... Workmanlike teams but knew that when you gave the ball to these players, something special might happen. 

I think it's very clear that the owners/whatever it is Rodwell did and whatever Branston does now, are interfering with the managers job.

There are numerous examples of this. Derry has alluded to it in interviews after leaving the club. Allen was sacked because he didn't agree with it. Moniz had the whole Branston's arguing with me in front of the owners scenario.

I assume we have probably lost out on a good few managers for this very reason. A quick phone call and to be told 'interfering owners' will put you right off. Probably why we end up with rookies who are glad of the chance. 

The emphasis at the minute seems to be on not losing rather than winning. Has JF been told not to concede like Moniz, or is that Fullarton's vision for how Notts will play. We will see...

all they had to do was appoint copper simple really but we are after the next unearthed gem of a manager 

There was a quote on Twitter last night that at half time Carrol and the team were being given some stick by our fans and he turned to them and said 'don't blame us, blame the directors'. Which (if true) means that the players are not too impressed with recent events either.

that's been all over the place and apparently Carroll gestured to some fans over there as in like let's go another Twitter one apparently but at the end he just walked down the tunnel and didn't applaud the fans.

Seems to me the players are giving up on Fullarton and the directors which if true is massively scary

I'll add it to the pile of 'oh really?' for now.

If the players have given up, they're not very professional. JF will be working on the defeats, I'm sure he will respond but I have my doubts about Tuesday now. Hartlepool are far better than York City, so if the players and JF get it wrong - I fear we'll see more of a meltdown take place.

to be honest tho Joe is Jamie really doing his job he leaves subs til 85 min he thinks we played the best we've played since his came in which speaks a lot .

He drops Stanley Snidjers cause there not English were playing a centre back who's not even fit at all were playin a centre mid wide right winger.

If you ask me he is making his job even harder and I don't blame the players of he don't have a clue how are they suppose to its all starting to add up bizzare training methods at Bolton that upset the players.

And if Roy did say don't blame me blame directors that's a sign he's really p***** off and so other players may be 

Im sorry but a U21 coach coaching players that have played higher levels he isn't the man for this job he's steadily taking us down further 

1 hour ago, Modern Fan 1862 ???? said:

to be honest tho Joe is Jamie really doing his job he leaves subs til 85 min he thinks we played the best we've played since his came in which speaks a lot .

He drops Stanley Snidjers cause there not English were playing a centre back who's not even fit at all were playin a centre mid wide right winger.

If you ask me he is making his job even harder and I don't blame the players of he don't have a clue how are they suppose to its all starting to add up bizzare training methods at Bolton that upset the players.

And if Roy did say don't blame me blame directors that's a sign he's really p***** off and so other players may be 

Im sorry but a U21 coach coaching players that have played higher levels he isn't the man for this job he's steadily taking us down further 

I wasn't at the game so clearly I'm not sure how the performance was but watching the live online pitch map on Saturday, particularly around the first half an hour, it looked like Notts were well on top. Those possession stats and corners may have been misleading right enough and only folk at the game would know better.

I've defended the manager on here and been accused of being his relation a number of times , which I am not, but I think its only right to try and be objective about some things.

The substitution was late and these are the things, along with results, that managers get judged on and quite rightly so but on two other points you made I wanted to ask..where does it say that players have been dropped or not featured because they aren't english? I think the manager would be a bit brighter than to go and blindly drop all foreign players based on only that ...dont you think? Maybe the local press should question him about it? and the other bit about being a U21 coach and players that have played a higher level? Higher than Fullarton? He played in the Premiership , the premier league in Scotland, most of the divisions in England and the top league in France? and his development squads at Palace, Bolton and across the Trent would have had ex internationals, and seasoned pros included in their squads so the U21 tag doesnt mean he's only been a 'school teacher'

Once again, following defeat I've seen some rather alarming reactionary stuff online from some 'fans' but PON , again, seems to be pretty balanced and reasonable which is positive.

So...at the risk of repeating myself ...I am NOT related to Jamie Fullarton...I work from time to time as a scout up North and have friends in the game who know him and colleagues/contacts at other clubs including the neighbours across the water....But I'll still get accused ...so fire away !!

 

 

1 hour ago, Modern Fan 1862 ???? said: to be honest tho Joe is Jamie really doing his job he leaves subs til 85 min he thinks we played the best we've played since his came in which speaks a lot .

He drops Stanley Snidjers cause there not English were playing a centre back who's not even fit at all were playin a centre mid wide right winger.

If you ask me he is making his job even harder and I don't blame the players of he don't have a clue how are they suppose to its all starting to add up bizzare training methods at Bolton that upset the players.

And if Roy did say don't blame me blame directors that's a sign he's really p***** off and so other players may be 

Im sorry but a U21 coach coaching players that have played higher levels he isn't the man for this job he's steadily taking us down further 

I wasn't at the game so clearly I'm not sure how the performance was but watching the live online pitch map on Saturday, particularly around the first half an hour, it looked like Notts were well on top. Those possession stats and corners may have been misleading right enough and only folk at the game would know better.

I've defended the manager on here and been accused of being his relation a number of times , which I am not, but I think its only right to try and be objective about some things.

The substitution was late and these are the things, along with results, that managers get judged on and quite rightly so but on two other points you made I wanted to ask..where does it say that players have been dropped or not featured because they aren't english? I think the manager would be a bit brighter than to go and blindly drop all foreign players based on only that ...dont you think? Maybe the local press should question him about it? and the other bit about being a U21 coach and players that have played a higher level? Higher than Fullarton? He played in the Premiership , the premier league in Scotland, most of the divisions in England and the top league in France? and his development squads at Palace, Bolton and across the Trent would have had ex internationals, and seasoned pros included in their squads so the U21 tag doesnt mean he's only been a 'school teacher'

Once again, following defeat I've seen some rather alarming reactionary stuff online from some 'fans' but PON , again, seems to be pretty balanced and reasonable which is positive.

So...at the risk of repeating myself ...I am NOT related to Jamie Fullarton...I work from time to time as a scout up North and have friends in the game who know him and colleagues/contacts at other clubs including the neighbours across the water....But I'll still get accused ...so fire away !!

 

 

You must be his long lost cousin! you make some very good points but you surely understand why fans get frustrated when they believe different players who have played well should be playing, when most fans with common sense realise that for a sub to have any major impact he shouldn't be brought on in the last few minutes, people weren't pleased with his appointment, I will give him time but he must change his way of playing

@NewNottsFan I for one welcome your input on this forum. I have just commented on my frustrations on another thread. You have in passing raised a very valid point about the press. Neither Radio Nottingham or the local Nottingham paper have asked the searching questions that most decent supporters want answering. His post match interviews sometimes are at odds as to what we have seen on the pitch...and they are not sufficiently challenged. We are trying to understand Jamie's thinking but at the same time, some of the continental "skilfull" players, that can add problems to opposition teams defences are not featuring. Many years back we had a manager Jocky Scott. He came down from Scotland with a "footballing reputation" which vanished almost immediately. I fear the same situation is happening with Jamie. Yes, we want winning football, but the skills needed to fashion wins seems to have been lost with an overly defensive attitude. I hope I am not sounding too negative but consider myself as a realist who tells as he sees it.

well do you see one foreigner on the bench ? no Stanley no Snidjers ? does that say enough Stan is the best creative talent at the club has been involed in the last 5 games no 

I don't care if we have 8,0000 corners and they have 1 it's a stat 

Genaro pace an can cross Stanley can pick a pass and unlock a defense but no they ain't good enuf in fullartons eyes Wimbledon at home according to Jamie if Adams header went in we could of won .

Lies we were defending for 90 mins and Wimbledon could of ripped us for 6 the bloke then says oh we played well for 20 mins at York well done but it's a 90 min game not 20 

Also to drop Stan Snidjers Murray can't even get a game he does more running chasing frightning then most so let me ask you something who here would drop Stan and Snidjers then?

and play smith or Bennett ahead of em I'm just curious 

1 hour ago, NewNottsFan said:

I wasn't at the game so clearly I'm not sure how the performance was but watching the live online pitch map on Saturday, particularly around the first half an hour, it looked like Notts were well on top. Those possession stats and corners may have been misleading right enough and only folk at the game would know better.

I've defended the manager on here and been accused of being his relation a number of times , which I am not, but I think its only right to try and be objective about some things.

The substitution was late and these are the things, along with results, that managers get judged on and quite rightly so but on two other points you made I wanted to ask..where does it say that players have been dropped or not featured because they aren't english? I think the manager would be a bit brighter than to go and blindly drop all foreign players based on only that ...dont you think? Maybe the local press should question him about it? and the other bit about being a U21 coach and players that have played a higher level? Higher than Fullarton? He played in the Premiership , the premier league in Scotland, most of the divisions in England and the top league in France? and his development squads at Palace, Bolton and across the Trent would have had ex internationals, and seasoned pros included in their squads so the U21 tag doesnt mean he's only been a 'school teacher'

Once again, following defeat I've seen some rather alarming reactionary stuff online from some 'fans' but PON , again, seems to be pretty balanced and reasonable which is positive.

So...at the risk of repeating myself ...I am NOT related to Jamie Fullarton...I work from time to time as a scout up North and have friends in the game who know him and colleagues/contacts at other clubs including the neighbours across the water....But I'll still get accused ...so fire away !!

 

 

the premier league in Scotland Jesus that's a massive league arquain and Danny Haynes of Eastleigh played in that massive league also Theo Robinson did the striker Stevenage turned down.

not been funny spl isn't a great league half of our rejects have gone there anyone Rember Michael Antonio courier we had years and years ago he playes in it now so yea.

Also he played in the premier league that doesn't mean he can just walk in and be like I'm the gaffer what managerial expierence has he ?

What level of actual management has he done tell me?

Also if he's so damn good why did his bizzare methods lose him the job and dressing room at Bolton when the players turned on him ? 

Also if he has played in the premier league as you say how come his style of play is hoof it and pray I don't see that in the premier league much

Maybe me and you go to diffrent games becuase against Wimbledon we set up with Bennett avoiding the ball and not offering nowt Curtis running the middle on his own no one else.

But if Adams header went in we could of won apparently even tho that was the only chance we created.

the bloke is not ready for this level I don't care what badges he has or where he has played Infact this may shed some light to you josh vela a former los ie great player and talent when Fullarton got the job fans were tweeting him.

He said the following all I'm gonna say good luck does that not say it all former players didn't rate him players already look more confused and given up at York.

And there second goal was a joke slick passing movement our lot just watched it like they'd never seen movement before I gaurentee you now Hartlepool will do the same we sit back at home we sit back away its negative form 0-90 mins