3 minutes ago, Fozzy said:

I don't care who owns the club as long as we have a decent manager, a budget worthy of our position and most importantly a chairman not trying to micro manage. If all those are ticked, then we're fine.

At the end of the day, put a winning team on the pitch and the fans will come to watch them, no matter who is in charge. It happened with Pavis and it would happen with RT.

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Bang on the money pal totally agree 

8 hours ago, Fozzy said:

I don't care who owns the club as long as we have a decent manager, a budget worthy of our position and most importantly a chairman not trying to micro manage. If all those are ticked, then we're fine.

At the end of the day, put a winning team on the pitch and the fans will come to watch them, no matter who is in charge. It happened with Pavis and it would happen with RT.

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They will only come back towards the end of the season,if promotion is possible,not the bread & butter games.I bet our 1st home game this coming season if RT is here will be 4k home fans if were lucky.We weren,t even getting that at the end of the season.

Fans are precious to Notts,like every other club,but Notts fan base will not swell on the good times like others.Never has done.

Pavis always moaned about Notts support.Look at Svens first home game.We couldn,t even get double figures against Bradford,who have a decent away following

@liampie your topic could be bang on the money reading in the Redrag,RT pulling out of sale if deal not concluded by end of June &,taking the club off the market.

44 minutes ago, irishpete said:

They will only come back towards the end of the season,if promotion is possible,not the bread & butter games.I bet our 1st home game this coming season if RT is here will be 4k home fans if were lucky.We weren,t even getting that at the end of the season.

Fans are precious to Notts,like every other club,but Notts fan base will not swell on the good times like others.Never has done.

Pavis always moaned about Notts support.Look at Svens first home game.We couldn,t even get double figures against Bradford,who have a decent away following

In my opinion the reason for our support never swelling is that we have always been too much of a flash in the pan club. Our success over the years has never been stabilised. If we had a few consistent years in the championship with the odd good cup run our fan base would slowly increase, if we got into the Premier League our fan base would swell to fill the ground overnight.

I reckon that if JS & MC are left alone to do what they do best (running the football side), RT & AT do what they do best (running the business side) then we will finally be ok. 

36 minutes ago, Northants Pie said:

In my opinion the reason for our support never swelling is that we have always been too much of a flash in the pan club. Our success over the years has never been stabilised. If we had a few consistent years in the championship with the odd good cup run our fan base would slowly increase, if we got into the Premier League our fan base would swell to fill the ground overnight.

I reckon that if JS & MC are left alone to do what they do best (running the football side), RT & AT do what they do best (running the business side) then we will finally be ok. 

I'd question RT's business sense when it comes to running a football club. It hasn't exactly been stellar recently. Maybe that's because he lost interest. If RT stays he has a lot of bridge building to do. JS is a good start. Personally I'd prefer that RT left. If we are stuck with him, so be it, but it would leave a very sour taste. 

13 hours ago, Piethagoram said:

@irishpete  "..appeased by simple things like the manager"..well we certainly seemed to have landed a manager that ticks most boxes... Perhaps you want potential owners like Bhatia and Strang back in the dark days of administration...  just be careful what you wish for

a manager that ticks most boxes yes but Oldham fans think we haven't paid the compo for him yet as were under a embargo.

You do realize we don't just owe Mansfield money don't you?

We owe other clubs ticket money apparently so there's a lot of bills that haven't been paid that should of been as it's simple  job pay you're Bills the football league have even withdrawn club payments.

so the only light at the minute is Sheridan nothing else 

A statement from RT saying if the club isn't sold by the end of June he will take us off the market and push on as chairman

http://m.nottinghampost.com/Ray-Trew-sets-deadline-Notts-County-sale/story-29335125-detail/story.html

It also says that the club is owed 38k by HMRC

48 minutes ago, Dripsey3 said:

I'd question RT's business sense when it comes to running a football club. It hasn't exactly been stellar recently. Maybe that's because he lost interest. If RT stays he has a lot of bridge building to do. JS is a good start. Personally I'd prefer that RT left. If we are stuck with him, so be it, but it would leave a very sour taste. 

I'd agree with the application of his business acumen when it comes to Notts. For me its as simple as being badly advised / let down by people he has trusted to help run the club. Surely when thinking about sacking managers in the past he would ask the people around him and you would have hoped they would at the very least of given a balance of opinion not just thought about their own respective pay packet.

No one can say he hasn't put his money where his mouth is, he has just been caught own by his own best intentions. As I've said numerous times before, proper football people are hard to come by and we've, especially last year with GB, been a club that has listened to wrong type of football person.

Take GB, people say he travelled thousands of miles watching games, well if he dod how come we didn't sign one properly decent player in all of that? How many lads have gone from non league to league clubs already this post season that have been mentioned on this forum alone? He spent too much time watching Plymouth play

 

Some interesting points above well made , if the owners are to stay , if lessons have been learnt in lots of ways then ok , let the manager do his stuff give him time , not just the owner but us fans also , I'm kind of hoping that the bills ect are things we will hear about in the coming days , and that we come out of embargo asap , so the rebuilding can get going , think we'll see clearer the intent for the future then .

1 hour ago, Northants Pie said:

I'd agree with the application of his business acumen when it comes to Notts. For me its as simple as being badly advised / let down by people he has trusted to help run the club. Surely when thinking about sacking managers in the past he would ask the people around him and you would have hoped they would at the very least of given a balance of opinion not just thought about their own respective pay packet.

No one can say he hasn't put his money where his mouth is, he has just been caught own by his own best intentions. As I've said numerous times before, proper football people are hard to come by and we've, especially last year with GB, been a club that has listened to wrong type of football person.

Take GB, people say he travelled thousands of miles watching games, well if he dod how come we didn't sign one properly decent player in all of that? How many lads have gone from non league to league clubs already this post season that have been mentioned on this forum alone? He spent too much time watching Plymouth play

 

The problem is we have seen all this before from RT. Look at the mess that was left behind at Lincoln. Admittedly RT was only one member of the board, but he threw his toys out of the pram at Lincoln and put them on the slippery slope to non league football. That's unsettling given his toys are all over the floor....again......

40 minutes ago, Dripsey3 said:

The problem is we have seen all this before from RT. Look at the mess that was left behind at Lincoln. Admittedly RT was only one member of the board, but he threw his toys out of the pram at Lincoln and put them on the slippery slope to non league football. That's unsettling given his toys are all over the floor....again......

That was more to do with paying a manager that wasn't there apparantly. 

Tbh what his family had to withstand was disgusting abhorent behaviour. I don't agree with a lot of what has happened but for people to think it is ok (and i am in no way saying that you condone this type of behaviour) to act in the manner they did was appauling. I get the frustrations and the blame game that took place over social media and the fact that everyone will see a situation differently but he cannot be blamed for taking the action he did nor now if he has indeed decided to give it another go.

Surely the embargo etc should show people that they need to be very careful of what they wish for.

1 hour ago, Who r ya?? You Pies!! said:

Some interesting points above well made , if the owners are to stay , if lessons have been learnt in lots of ways then ok , let the manager do his stuff give him time , not just the owner but us fans also , I'm kind of hoping that the bills ect are things we will hear about in the coming days , and that we come out of embargo asap , so the rebuilding can get going , think we'll see clearer the intent for the future then .

We play, as fans, the biggest part of it.

Lets be honest RT gave us all hope of a magical new dawn just when we thought we were going to go out of business, he put his hand in his pocket to the tune of millions which we could all see and that ambition he gave us as fans has been the biggest stick people have tried to beat him with.

We need to settle down and accept certain situations then try and move forward as a whole club

26 minutes ago, Northants Pie said:

That was more to do with paying a manager that wasn't there apparantly. 

Tbh what his family had to withstand was disgusting abhorent behaviour. I don't agree with a lot of what has happened but for people to think it is ok (and i am in no way saying that you condone this type of behaviour) to act in the manner they did was appauling. I get the frustrations and the blame game that took place over social media and the fact that everyone will see a situation differently but he cannot be blamed for taking the action he did nor now if he has indeed decided to give it another go.

Surely the embargo etc should show people that they need to be very careful of what they wish for.

The embargo is a direct result of RT's actions. It's amateurish to allow such a situation to develop. Withholding money owed to other football clubs is unacceptable. It creates ill will and does nothing for the reputation of the club as a whole. All anyone can ask for is a stable, well run club. We are neither at the moment. I don't believe RT is capable of delivering either to be frank about it. 

On 5/29/2016 at 06:58, Super_Danny_Allsopp said:

Seeing as we have no communication regarding a potential takeover, we can only speculate. Given the limited amount of information we have, there are a number of possibilities:

1. There were no other serious bidders apart from Alan Hardy, who wouldn't meet RT's asking price. RT to remain as owner.
2. The other interested parties ('race to finish line') didn't like what they saw when doing due diligence. RT to remain as owner.
3. As RT mentioned, the takeover is taking a lot longer than originally foreseen, therefore RT is ensuring the club is at least stable in the forthcoming months whilst the takeover is delayed.
4. RT has decided he no longer wants to sell, regardless of price etc...

Where we stand is anyone's guess. The above 4 seem the most plausible from the information that is public. I hope that no.3 is correct, as going on the past 6 years, RT becomes disillusioned as quickly as he does reinvigorated, and that is no good for the club long-term. 

With the press release from RT via NEP, it seems that number 1 was the closest, or perhaps number 2. 

Whatever way you want to twist it, it doesn't look good. Yet again RT has, at best, jumped the gun with the 'race to the finish line'. At worst, that statement was complete bull. It's not the first time though, and we all should have expected it. Let's remind ourselves why RT put us up for sale in the first place, because of 'keyboard warriors' abusing his family. These 'keyboard warriors' haven't gone anywhere, so the reason (or the reason he gave) still stands, therefore I don't understand why now he wants to be pouring money down the 'black hole that is Notts County'. For me, if the situation of abuse to his family, of which I no doubt there will have been some, is that bad, you sell up and take what price you can get, not become reinvigorated because you want another pop at it. 

So we plod along with RT as owner, who clearly hasn't learnt from his mistakes, and to be honest I doubt he even acknowledges them. You can kind of see the direction this is going, I hope not for all our sake. At least the outlook is a bit brighter with a decent manager at the helm, whether or not he will be allowed to manage without interference remains to be seen. 

@Modern Fan 1862 ???? Maybe the timing of cash flows have been the result of commitments made by a variety of CEO's, and thus outside the Directors immediate control. Yes, it's speculation and I too feel embarrassed as a Notts supporter that we are under an embargo for failing to pay football creditors.