Rumours told to me today

[ivansneck]

I chatted to a few people at the Wycombe game today and the following rumours were all told to me directly by paid emplyees of the club:

1. NCFC will go into administration on the 17th December.

2. Some staff have been told the 17th is when some jobs will go.

3. Ray Trew's solicitors have advised him to accept the £5 million offer from Alan Hardy.

4. Ray Trew will not put anymore money into the club so debts to everyone will accumulate quickly.

5. Ray Trew wasn't there today.

6. There is a chinese consortium about to buy the club.

 

I can't confirm any of them, but it does indicate a club in toatl chaos

 

 

[Who r ya?? You Pies!!]

Rumours or facts @ivansneck it does as you say show our club is in a total mess , what annoys me is how very little comes out of the club or the journalist / media who delve into NCFC , I know C S is somewhat a hero in some ways to notts fans on radio Nottingham , but today and maybe it's just me , I found it annoying how he said he was introduced to one interested party against Peterborough, and staying in touch with them , do your media roll and let the fans know it's your job to be informative not to tickle the ears , rant over , I do worry for NCFC. 

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@Who r ya?? You Pies!! @ivansneck Did you hear CS after the match? He was pretty much saying that their are dark days ahead for Notts if RT does not personally take charge of the sale and bring it to a conclusion. I thought he sounded very sincere, it was a speech almost, aimed at RT.

[Who r ya?? You Pies!!]

Yeah definitely @Riverleeno , I heard it and agree , so maybe what @ivansneck was being told holds water and could be accurate , I want news mate , I know all notts fans do ya know , but this tickling of ears is so damn annoying , begs the question why should he or anyone else it could apply to in that field of media / journalism know and not pass on information to those who should be at least knowing what they know , be that journalist who tells it as it is .

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I agree the lack of news is frustrating, it would be good to know more about the other potential buyers. I assume CS has asked if they will say anything on the record.

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2,3 and 4 have been going around the rumour mill for awhile.

Yet I wouldn't be surprised to see some of the staff go, we have seen this season after season - in fact allegedly some staff moved on because lower wages and higher responsibility/duty (I'm not suggesting its true mind) just what I have heard from various people. however what was the reason why we let Damien Irvine walk?

With regards to Alan Hardy, I've been told and again I can't vouch but I believe it - he won't be buying Notts.

Allegedly his last offer was higher than 5m, and the reports that he was approached with an offer to buy the club are reportedly false.

Number 4 has been stated by the man himself, and it seems he only puts in if he must.

A Chinese consortium was heavily linked with Notts, which I am told is true - yet notable in other news. A group which eventually did buy a club (higher than ours) stated publicly after that purchase that the club wasn't their first interest and that they looked to purchase a club with 'history' but allegedly they was told the club wasn't for sale. I don't know how many teams in the lower tiers that have 'good history'.

The thing about rumours nobody knows aside from them involved, I just hope we can move on and forward from this mess.

[Who r ya?? You Pies!!]

We need some clarity , if people are openly at the ground and genuine interested parties and introduced as such to media , it should be made known who it is , I'm not after nuts and bolts of a potential deal , just don't tickle the ears of the dwindling fan base , it's not right .

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@Who r ya?? You Pies!! I realise its normal to agree to not to discuss terms, money involved etc but I do question all the secrecy.

I do feel better question could be asked by local media, I'm not knocking anyone but when Forest was put up for sale there was no end of rumours being chased - plenty of questions was asked but with us, do they feel it would result in bans? I don't know, its just crazy.

[Who r ya?? You Pies!!]

Exactly @notts-joe , I would almost say if it can't be reported on openly say nothing at all , to say he met them and in touch is poor reporting for me , say who they are !!! 

[ivansneck]

2,3 and 4 have been going around the rumour mill for awhile.
Yet I wouldn't be surprised to see some of the staff go, we have seen this season after season - in fact allegedly some staff moved on because lower wages and higher responsibility/duty (I'm not suggesting its true mind) just what I have heard from various people. however what was the reason why we let Damien Irvine walk?
With regards to Alan Hardy, I've been told and again I can't vouch but I believe it - he won't be buying Notts.
Allegedly his last offer was higher than 5m, and the reports that he was approached with an offer to buy the club are reportedly false.
Number 4 has been stated by the man himself, and it seems he only puts in if he must.
A Chinese consortium was heavily linked with Notts, which I am told is true - yet notable in other news. A group which eventually did buy a club (higher than ours) stated publicly after that purchase that the club wasn't their first interest and that they looked to purchase a club with 'history' but allegedly they was told the club wasn't for sale. I don't know how many teams in the lower tiers that have 'good history'.
The thing about rumours nobody knows aside from them involved, I just hope we can move on and forward from this mess.

I could answer the one about Damien as he's a friend via our rugby league question. However, I can't give details except to say it's due to the 2 current directors and micromanagement.


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[ivansneck]

I reckon Notts have about 2 months to be saved from the Trews.


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[Who r ya?? You Pies!!]

Think you have something there with that @ivansneck , if AH has offered 5 million , I think RT is getting way above what the clubs worth , maybe he doesn't want to sell to someone who would possibly be well embraced by the fan base and possibly do better with the club  ??? 

[Piethagoram 𝕏 @piethagoram]

Agreeing a price but I think its the responsibility for on going losses that maybe the key to those "previous deals falling through"? We dont know but the longer the uncertainty over ownership continues and its financial ratifications, the more the focus is off the shambolic performance of the team

[Who r ya?? You Pies!!]

For me the off the pitch mess needs priority it just has to be concluded asap , it's causing in my opinion a negative environment for all who work at the club , and for those who currently own it, it's a mess from the top down , I just hope that hoped for sale happens , I'm not confident it will .

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Well, can anyone make sense as to why you would want to waste money or lose further amounts?

The club isn't self sustaining, fans are increasingly becoming annoyed with issues - things which could have been cleared up if repeated mistakes hadn't been made. I can''t help but feel it's best to cut off your nose (accept any loss) - than to risk worse outcomes.

[ivansneck]

Trew doesn't seem to know the proverb 'don't throw good money after bad'.


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[DangerousSausage]

It's hard to deny we're in chaos.

1 and 3 can't both be true - what would be the point in putting the club into administration (thereby receiving next to no money in the event of a sale) if 5 million is already on the table? It would be cutting off your nose to spite your face on a truly grand scale.

What we do know is that RT wants out, he has said he doesn't want to put any more money into the club and we have a bloated wage bill due to the mismanagement of the former. So debts will be racking up on a monthly basis and probably have been for some time. According to the BBC players have been paid late and we have already been given a number of winding up orders. We're in chaos and right now I can't see a way out of it - I don't think Alan Hardy will get us out of this and the Chinese consortium sounds like a fairy tale.

[Super_Danny_Allsopp]

I'm not sure I agree with those asking for information.

Any information regarding a potential takeover will come from Ray Trew, and as we've seen multiple times before, his word counts for zilch. Might as well keep his gob shut and thrash the deal out.

[Who r ya?? You Pies!!]

Well I hope he does just that @Super_Danny_Allsopp asap 

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8 hours ago, DangerousSausage said:

the Chinese consortium sounds like a fairy tale.

I want to parody 'It wasn't me' by Shaggy

'How can you run a club more poorly than Aston Villa
Whining of fans, without no witness instead your clinging to your pillow
Claiming you want out and your watching your back before the digger turns into a killer
Best for you and the situation is a no brainier
To to tell the true, pay the players and the HMRC
If not straight a way, do it within a day
Never admit that you won't sell the club
And don't take no blame, no way, blame the fans instead.

And the Danish investor said 'It won't be me'
The Chinese consortium said 'It won't be us'
The New York Yankie Owners said 'It isn't us'
Alan Hardy said 'It could have been me'.

[Piethagoram 𝕏 @piethagoram]

The saga of the Trews, people do forget they have backed their managers financially. The biggest problem has been choosing the right manager and years of a recruitment policy not fit for purpose

I am fearful that Sheridan has blown the budget on dross. I go to Meadow Lane as I am loyal, but think of it as a neutral, would you come and pay serious money to see this team?

 

 

[Fozzy]

Notts are really testing my loyalty at the moment, I'm having to drag myself to games as I hate what I'm seeing, both on and off the pitch. Year after year we do the same thing, recruit a new manager who in turn recruits a load of dross to play for him, they don't play, the manager gets sacked and we repeat the sorry tale over again.

Not every manager we have had in the last six years can be that bad, so it begs the question as to what else can it be? The answer has to lie higher up, RT has acted in good faith by putting his hand in his pocket, but he has been badly advised on a lot of the decision making leaving us with probably the worst infrastructure in the football league. Managers and ex players leave snippets of off the cuff comments here and there regarding their time at Notts and as the saying goes "throw enough mud at the wall and some of it will stick".

If Alan Hardy has offered £5m for the club, RT should have accepted it and written off all debt.

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1 hour ago, Piethagoram said:

The saga of the Trews, people do forget they have backed their managers financially. The biggest problem has been choosing the right manager and years of a recruitment policy not fit for purpose

I am fearful that Sheridan has blown the budget on dross. I go to Meadow Lane as I am loyal, but think of it as a neutral, would you come and pay serious money to see this team?

There's always two sides of the coin.

However, the cheapest option usually means that not enough money is spent in the right department. I'm not sure Shaun Derry was supported as well as he could, however we probably didn't have much of a budget at that point due to prior managers being backed too much (or it being spent in the wrong department). Who truly knows?

The recruitment policy is always gimmicks, always.

We don't sign good players on merit of skills or if they are likely to have the ability of serving us well beyond a single season.

It would seem that we snap anyone up who just fits the bill, I know people speak of accessing attitudes but I'm not sure that happens. Dickinson is more negative on the pitch than Carroll was ever in goal. I would be nice if we signed players based on requirements, tactics already planned (not make them up as we go along, always forever changing them) and certainly players who had skill.

I spoke outright about Derry offloading people who had an ego, sometimes these people are useful to have around.

BBC Radio Nottingham aired last match day an interesting broadcast on Steve Evans, a manager who many players dislike to the point of hating but they still respect him.

I wouldn't worry about John Sheridan, I am certain he doing his utmost to try and turn things around. For him it would be easy to quit and walk away when the going is good, like we have seen others do (who shouldn't). It's actually refreshing he hasn't blamed the wrong things but he needs to work on them.

Fans just want to see Notts moving in the right direction, this type of backwards is hard to move forward.

I'm unsure if Notts can even pick up a league win in this remaining year, that makes for depressing reading.

[Super_Danny_Allsopp]

22 hours ago, Piethagoram said:

The saga of the Trews, people do forget they have backed their managers financially. 

That's irrelevant though, isn't it? 

If the Trews manage to finally get us relegated out of the FL, they will have achieved even what the Trust failed to, and spent 10's of millions (allegedly - crap source though - RT) for the privilege!! 

[Piethagoram 𝕏 @piethagoram]

@Super_Danny_Allsopp I am seriously worried about relegation. Sheridan's misspent the budget though, that's not the Trews fault. Just what Crossley is doing as a coach is also of concern.