Trew doesn't seem to know the proverb 'don't throw good money after bad'.


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It's hard to deny we're in chaos.

1 and 3 can't both be true - what would be the point in putting the club into administration (thereby receiving next to no money in the event of a sale) if 5 million is already on the table? It would be cutting off your nose to spite your face on a truly grand scale.

What we do know is that RT wants out, he has said he doesn't want to put any more money into the club and we have a bloated wage bill due to the mismanagement of the former. So debts will be racking up on a monthly basis and probably have been for some time. According to the BBC players have been paid late and we have already been given a number of winding up orders. We're in chaos and right now I can't see a way out of it - I don't think Alan Hardy will get us out of this and the Chinese consortium sounds like a fairy tale.

I'm not sure I agree with those asking for information.

Any information regarding a potential takeover will come from Ray Trew, and as we've seen multiple times before, his word counts for zilch. Might as well keep his gob shut and thrash the deal out.

Well I hope he does just that @Super_Danny_Allsopp asap 

8 hours ago, DangerousSausage said:

the Chinese consortium sounds like a fairy tale.

I want to parody 'It wasn't me' by Shaggy

'How can you run a club more poorly than Aston Villa
Whining of fans, without no witness instead your clinging to your pillow
Claiming you want out and your watching your back before the digger turns into a killer
Best for you and the situation is a no brainier
To to tell the true, pay the players and the HMRC
If not straight a way, do it within a day
Never admit that you won't sell the club
And don't take no blame, no way, blame the fans instead.

And the Danish investor said 'It won't be me'
The Chinese consortium said 'It won't be us'
The New York Yankie Owners said 'It isn't us'
Alan Hardy said 'It could have been me'.

The saga of the Trews, people do forget they have backed their managers financially. The biggest problem has been choosing the right manager and years of a recruitment policy not fit for purpose

I am fearful that Sheridan has blown the budget on dross. I go to Meadow Lane as I am loyal, but think of it as a neutral, would you come and pay serious money to see this team?

 

 

Notts are really testing my loyalty at the moment, I'm having to drag myself to games as I hate what I'm seeing, both on and off the pitch. Year after year we do the same thing, recruit a new manager who in turn recruits a load of dross to play for him, they don't play, the manager gets sacked and we repeat the sorry tale over again.

Not every manager we have had in the last six years can be that bad, so it begs the question as to what else can it be? The answer has to lie higher up, RT has acted in good faith by putting his hand in his pocket, but he has been badly advised on a lot of the decision making leaving us with probably the worst infrastructure in the football league. Managers and ex players leave snippets of off the cuff comments here and there regarding their time at Notts and as the saying goes "throw enough mud at the wall and some of it will stick".

If Alan Hardy has offered £5m for the club, RT should have accepted it and written off all debt.

1 hour ago, Piethagoram said:

The saga of the Trews, people do forget they have backed their managers financially. The biggest problem has been choosing the right manager and years of a recruitment policy not fit for purpose

I am fearful that Sheridan has blown the budget on dross. I go to Meadow Lane as I am loyal, but think of it as a neutral, would you come and pay serious money to see this team?

There's always two sides of the coin.

However, the cheapest option usually means that not enough money is spent in the right department. I'm not sure Shaun Derry was supported as well as he could, however we probably didn't have much of a budget at that point due to prior managers being backed too much (or it being spent in the wrong department). Who truly knows?

The recruitment policy is always gimmicks, always.

We don't sign good players on merit of skills or if they are likely to have the ability of serving us well beyond a single season.

It would seem that we snap anyone up who just fits the bill, I know people speak of accessing attitudes but I'm not sure that happens. Dickinson is more negative on the pitch than Carroll was ever in goal. I would be nice if we signed players based on requirements, tactics already planned (not make them up as we go along, always forever changing them) and certainly players who had skill.

I spoke outright about Derry offloading people who had an ego, sometimes these people are useful to have around.

BBC Radio Nottingham aired last match day an interesting broadcast on Steve Evans, a manager who many players dislike to the point of hating but they still respect him.

I wouldn't worry about John Sheridan, I am certain he doing his utmost to try and turn things around. For him it would be easy to quit and walk away when the going is good, like we have seen others do (who shouldn't). It's actually refreshing he hasn't blamed the wrong things but he needs to work on them.

Fans just want to see Notts moving in the right direction, this type of backwards is hard to move forward.

I'm unsure if Notts can even pick up a league win in this remaining year, that makes for depressing reading.

22 hours ago, Piethagoram said:

The saga of the Trews, people do forget they have backed their managers financially. 

That's irrelevant though, isn't it? 

If the Trews manage to finally get us relegated out of the FL, they will have achieved even what the Trust failed to, and spent 10's of millions (allegedly - crap source though - RT) for the privilege!! 

@Super_Danny_Allsopp I am seriously worried about relegation. Sheridan's misspent the budget though, that's not the Trews fault. Just what Crossley is doing as a coach is also of concern.

Chaos starts at the top , is driven by those at the top or it would be sorted by those , yes , at the top , the club is so unstable , who should sort it ?? 

20 hours ago, Piethagoram said:

@Super_Danny_Allsopp I am seriously worried about relegation. Sheridan's misspent the budget though, that's not the Trews fault. Just what Crossley is doing as a coach is also of concern.

If you were to list reasons why Notts have been utterly dire in the past, what, 5-7 years, I think 'Trew' would be closer to the top and 'Crossley' wouldn't even feature as a foot note.

All these managers failing at Notts, yet doing well elsewhere. Think about what they all have in common, begins with T ends with w. 

2 hours ago, Super_Danny_Allsopp said:

All these managers failing at Notts, yet doing well elsewhere. Think about what they all have in common, begins with T ends with w. 

It certainly makes you wonder, but I think it's too simplistic to think that a change of owner will solve all, or even most of our many problems.  Look at it this way - this season Ray Trew has appointed a manager with a good pedigree for our level which most fans were happy with, and provided a budget that will at least be the equal of most clubs in this league.  In other words, he's done what he could be reasonably expected to do.  Why it's all gone **** up yet again I just don't know.  

RT has backed managers that is a fact I don't think I could argue with , for me it's other issues with the owner , the breakdown of relations between owner and fans and the stand off since , the desire to want to sell and the fans hope that he does is unbridgeable , other matters like bills , the silence on serious matters from the top , the club not seeming to have direction , or a plan,  which is  something needed from the top , that's I guess where my criticism would be . 

It certainly makes you wonder, but I think it's too simplistic to think that a change of owner will solve all, or even most of our many problems.  Look at it this way - this season Ray Trew has appointed a manager with a good pedigree for our level which most fans were happy with, and provided a budget that will at least be the equal of most clubs in this league.  In other words, he's done what he could be reasonably expected to do.  Why it's all gone **** up yet again I just don't know.  

What you say is undeniable. But, does he let them get on with the job unhindered?


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