owner u turn?

[liampie]

i am not sure there is any real intent to sell the club.

i just read this article on the posts website about how john sheridans dream of taking us to the championship is music to the ears of ray. it does not read like something that a chairman who has lost interest or decided to sell because he is annoyed with certain abusers etc would say. i know other fans have felt this way for some time now but i hope its not just a ploy to sell tickets also.

we need to move on from the past 4 seasons and all the silly drama which has came from it.

for me it starts with new owners, not a new manager declaring the same stuff other ex managers have said. are others really that fickle to believe it?

[Dripsey3]

That's all we need. How long before the toys would be thrown out of the pram again?

[CliftonMagpie]

It wont be long.

There is more chance of sealing the takeover than RT not having a tantrum for his mistakes. If only he had the CEO, a proper CEO running the club from day one.

[Super_Danny_Allsopp]

Seeing as we have no communication regarding a potential takeover, we can only speculate. Given the limited amount of information we have, there are a number of possibilities:

1. There were no other serious bidders apart from Alan Hardy, who wouldn't meet RT's asking price. RT to remain as owner.
2. The other interested parties ('race to finish line') didn't like what they saw when doing due diligence. RT to remain as owner.
3. As RT mentioned, the takeover is taking a lot longer than originally foreseen, therefore RT is ensuring the club is at least stable in the forthcoming months whilst the takeover is delayed.
4. RT has decided he no longer wants to sell, regardless of price etc...

Where we stand is anyone's guess. The above 4 seem the most plausible from the information that is public. I hope that no.3 is correct, as going on the past 6 years, RT becomes disillusioned as quickly as he does reinvigorated, and that is no good for the club long-term. 

[Piethagoram 𝕏 @piethagoram]

Recollections of the Pavis era, the Club was up for sale for years, then what was seen as a panic sale to Scardino / Storrie led to another disaster.

[Who r ya?? You Pies!!]

I wouldn't read to much into the championship line , its the sort of thing you would expect to be said , we can aspire to get there maybe it's a goal we could realistically aim for , I think so with stability, the club would be a more attractive purchase to a prospective buyer then , as for whether a sale is on the agenda I don't know what to think for sure , maybe our owners want to stay and maybe RT stepped back to calm the storm and reflect , again I'm not sure , one thing I am sure of they have invested big money for where we are , so for me the intention was to move upwards , nothing in football is ever as straight forward though as the amount of cash invested . I'm looking more forward now to next season, with stability the key ingredient.

[Dripsey3]

You know it's time to go when Mansfield fans say Notts need a new owner!

[irishpete]

Don,t know about a u turn,a right or left out of ML,pity the road isn,t one way.Too many bridges burnt,but some are easily appeased by simple things like the manager.That is just papering over the cracks.some on here need to wake up.we have lost fans due to these &, believe me its hard to get them back.

Makes you puke when some come on here & say "Thanks for coming on",even when you dont get told owt,big deal.Makes you wonder who wears the trousers,when you see replys on here.

[Who r ya?? You Pies!!]

It's simply called good manners, I don't apologise for displaying them , and I'm not easily won over by anything , but I am prepared to give credit where it's due , to many want to just keep harping on, your opinion matters but surely there has to be a point to it other than to just making it , I guess some are more opposed than I am .

[liampie]

10 hours ago, Piethagoram said:

Recollections of the Pavis era, the Club was up for sale for years, then what was seen as a panic sale to Scardino / Storrie led to another disaster.

hope we avoid that trap but considering we had more success under false hope i think shows how much we need a new owners.

37 minutes ago, Who r ya?? You Pies!! said:

It's simply called good manners, I don't apologise for displaying them , and I'm not easily won over by anything , but I am prepared to give credit where it's due , to many want to just keep harping on, your opinion matters but surely there has to be a point to it other than to just making it , I guess some are more opposed than I am .

we are fans and credit should be given when deserved but it should also be pointed out when its not going so well.

my limit is because of the unpaid bills and how poorly the club is operating at the minute. there is no need for us to start arguing and i agree with who r ya, it is best to be polite but again there have been some very negative decisions and people will have grown tired of that happening.

[Who r ya?? You Pies!!]

Totally agree with @liampie especially on paying the bills , see sale or no sale pay the bills please , and that plenty has gone on that leaves a bad taste , I do tend to comment on them , but I make a point of giving credit that is due to , I don't like to argue for argument's sake, I feel like many do on here just maybe not so critically.

[Piethagoram 𝕏 @piethagoram]

@irishpete  "..appeased by simple things like the manager"..well we certainly seemed to have landed a manager that ticks most boxes... Perhaps you want potential owners like Bhatia and Strang back in the dark days of administration...  just be careful what you wish for

[irishpete]

Yes Sheridan does tick most boxes,but there is hell of alot more to sort out than just the manager.As for new owners & be careful what you wish for,you can say that about anything.There wasn,t too many saying that about Munto was there?.There was hell of a lot of people calling the Trews after JF appointment & even before it was announced most were in uproar.Stories like im not setting foot in the ground whilst there here,not buying a season ticket,then we appoint a manager with a experience & all is forgiven,but you dont know if RT is pulling the strings,he could be acting on someones behalf.

[Who r ya?? You Pies!!]

Could be , that's a small statement but as yet it has no foundation, to be honest who knows what is going on sale wise I certainly don't , let's wait and see what if anything develops then maybe form an opinion , the manager situation needed sorting and has been , more news to follow in the days ahead , let's just wait and see cos ya know what my crystal ball is cloudy with the rest of it .

[Fozzy]

I don't care who owns the club as long as we have a decent manager, a budget worthy of our position and most importantly a chairman not trying to micro manage. If all those are ticked, then we're fine.

At the end of the day, put a winning team on the pitch and the fans will come to watch them, no matter who is in charge. It happened with Pavis and it would happen with RT.

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[Who r ya?? You Pies!!]

3 minutes ago, Fozzy said:

I don't care who owns the club as long as we have a decent manager, a budget worthy of our position and most importantly a chairman not trying to micro manage. If all those are ticked, then we're fine.

At the end of the day, put a winning team on the pitch and the fans will come to watch them, no matter who is in charge. It happened with Pavis and it would happen with RT.

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Bang on the money pal totally agree 

[irishpete]

8 hours ago, Fozzy said:

I don't care who owns the club as long as we have a decent manager, a budget worthy of our position and most importantly a chairman not trying to micro manage. If all those are ticked, then we're fine.

At the end of the day, put a winning team on the pitch and the fans will come to watch them, no matter who is in charge. It happened with Pavis and it would happen with RT.

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They will only come back towards the end of the season,if promotion is possible,not the bread & butter games.I bet our 1st home game this coming season if RT is here will be 4k home fans if were lucky.We weren,t even getting that at the end of the season.

Fans are precious to Notts,like every other club,but Notts fan base will not swell on the good times like others.Never has done.

Pavis always moaned about Notts support.Look at Svens first home game.We couldn,t even get double figures against Bradford,who have a decent away following

[irishpete]

@liampie your topic could be bang on the money reading in the Redrag,RT pulling out of sale if deal not concluded by end of June &,taking the club off the market.

[Northants Pie]

44 minutes ago, irishpete said:

They will only come back towards the end of the season,if promotion is possible,not the bread & butter games.I bet our 1st home game this coming season if RT is here will be 4k home fans if were lucky.We weren,t even getting that at the end of the season.

Fans are precious to Notts,like every other club,but Notts fan base will not swell on the good times like others.Never has done.

Pavis always moaned about Notts support.Look at Svens first home game.We couldn,t even get double figures against Bradford,who have a decent away following

In my opinion the reason for our support never swelling is that we have always been too much of a flash in the pan club. Our success over the years has never been stabilised. If we had a few consistent years in the championship with the odd good cup run our fan base would slowly increase, if we got into the Premier League our fan base would swell to fill the ground overnight.

I reckon that if JS & MC are left alone to do what they do best (running the football side), RT & AT do what they do best (running the business side) then we will finally be ok. 

[Dripsey3]

36 minutes ago, Northants Pie said:

In my opinion the reason for our support never swelling is that we have always been too much of a flash in the pan club. Our success over the years has never been stabilised. If we had a few consistent years in the championship with the odd good cup run our fan base would slowly increase, if we got into the Premier League our fan base would swell to fill the ground overnight.

I reckon that if JS & MC are left alone to do what they do best (running the football side), RT & AT do what they do best (running the business side) then we will finally be ok. 

I'd question RT's business sense when it comes to running a football club. It hasn't exactly been stellar recently. Maybe that's because he lost interest. If RT stays he has a lot of bridge building to do. JS is a good start. Personally I'd prefer that RT left. If we are stuck with him, so be it, but it would leave a very sour taste. 

[Modern Notts Fan 🔥]

13 hours ago, Piethagoram said:

@irishpete  "..appeased by simple things like the manager"..well we certainly seemed to have landed a manager that ticks most boxes... Perhaps you want potential owners like Bhatia and Strang back in the dark days of administration...  just be careful what you wish for

a manager that ticks most boxes yes but Oldham fans think we haven't paid the compo for him yet as were under a embargo.

You do realize we don't just owe Mansfield money don't you?

We owe other clubs ticket money apparently so there's a lot of bills that haven't been paid that should of been as it's simple  job pay you're Bills the football league have even withdrawn club payments.

so the only light at the minute is Sheridan nothing else 

[Turkey_Twizzler]

A statement from RT saying if the club isn't sold by the end of June he will take us off the market and push on as chairman

http://m.nottinghampost.com/Ray-Trew-sets-deadline-Notts-County-sale/story-29335125-detail/story.html

It also says that the club is owed 38k by HMRC

[Northants Pie]

48 minutes ago, Dripsey3 said:

I'd question RT's business sense when it comes to running a football club. It hasn't exactly been stellar recently. Maybe that's because he lost interest. If RT stays he has a lot of bridge building to do. JS is a good start. Personally I'd prefer that RT left. If we are stuck with him, so be it, but it would leave a very sour taste. 

I'd agree with the application of his business acumen when it comes to Notts. For me its as simple as being badly advised / let down by people he has trusted to help run the club. Surely when thinking about sacking managers in the past he would ask the people around him and you would have hoped they would at the very least of given a balance of opinion not just thought about their own respective pay packet.

No one can say he hasn't put his money where his mouth is, he has just been caught own by his own best intentions. As I've said numerous times before, proper football people are hard to come by and we've, especially last year with GB, been a club that has listened to wrong type of football person.

Take GB, people say he travelled thousands of miles watching games, well if he dod how come we didn't sign one properly decent player in all of that? How many lads have gone from non league to league clubs already this post season that have been mentioned on this forum alone? He spent too much time watching Plymouth play

 

[Who r ya?? You Pies!!]

Some interesting points above well made , if the owners are to stay , if lessons have been learnt in lots of ways then ok , let the manager do his stuff give him time , not just the owner but us fans also , I'm kind of hoping that the bills ect are things we will hear about in the coming days , and that we come out of embargo asap , so the rebuilding can get going , think we'll see clearer the intent for the future then .

[Dripsey3]

1 hour ago, Northants Pie said:

I'd agree with the application of his business acumen when it comes to Notts. For me its as simple as being badly advised / let down by people he has trusted to help run the club. Surely when thinking about sacking managers in the past he would ask the people around him and you would have hoped they would at the very least of given a balance of opinion not just thought about their own respective pay packet.

No one can say he hasn't put his money where his mouth is, he has just been caught own by his own best intentions. As I've said numerous times before, proper football people are hard to come by and we've, especially last year with GB, been a club that has listened to wrong type of football person.

Take GB, people say he travelled thousands of miles watching games, well if he dod how come we didn't sign one properly decent player in all of that? How many lads have gone from non league to league clubs already this post season that have been mentioned on this forum alone? He spent too much time watching Plymouth play

 

The problem is we have seen all this before from RT. Look at the mess that was left behind at Lincoln. Admittedly RT was only one member of the board, but he threw his toys out of the pram at Lincoln and put them on the slippery slope to non league football. That's unsettling given his toys are all over the floor....again......