6 minutes ago, notts-joe said:

 

Everyone has a period whereby enough is enough, we really should respect this.

As I made clear in my post, I do respect anyone's right to stop attending games if they've had enough.  I objected to the misguided and delusional tag attached to those who choose to stick by the club.

@Elite_pie People go to watch Notts for many different reasons, it's not always a case of the football but when its good/entertaining it makes it easier. I'm not suggesting you don't respect the views of people who have chosen to stop going, with regards to myself it's not remotely to do with the performances.

However, I do think fans should standby each other.

If they go or if they don't, ultimate at some stage the support will be needed at some point. There's so many fractions already existing, hence my comment about understanding.

PS. Your right about 'continued support is pretty much all we can do to try and improve things' - its not the only way, as forcing change by making a stand has its own power but really like we saw during the great escape - support can go along way.

Cheeky plug for my blog on the subject of the state of our club 

 

An interesting discussion above. To try and get to the nub of it, season tickets are absolutely vital to NCFC. I don't have one so I'm not going tomorrow etc. If I did have one I might wwell do so. This makes me even more angry at the chief executive's stance on them at the start of the season. Until we get a CE who knows how to build a following for the club we'll get nowhere.

I'm all the way over in Ireland, but I get the feeling that the "buzz" around Notts is gone and has been gone for a while now. It's all a bit stale IMO. I find myself losing interest by the week. Last Saturday, I was more interested in whether East Kilbride would keep their winning streak going in the Scottish Lowland League! They didn't by the way. Their first defeat all season. 

I feel the same way @Dripsey3, although I'm a bit of a special case. Even if we turn this run around and finish in a 8-10th place, which would be a solid improvement on last season, it hardly gets the pulse racing, does it? The limit of our ambitions seem to be to get back into the division we were in before over the next two or three years. The home form and the last two games in particular are not acceptable. There's little wonder people are fed up.

The decisions to play our best centre-half at right-back and to play Alan Smith up front are perplexing to say the least. But if illness really has been going around then the management team know who has spent the week in bed.

To the people on social media who are already calling for the manager's head: let him do his job. We knew we'd be in for a couple of poor spells before the season started. We have been sacking at least a manager a season for years and where has it got us? It's got us here, playing against (and getting beaten by) Newport County in the fourth division. League Two is tight this season, the play-offs and the bottom two are both theoretically possible. The very last thing we need right now is another ride on the managerial merry-go-round with the future ownership of the club up in the air. Last season we were very lucky indeed that the bottom two were so far behind. We haven't got that luxury this time.

In my opinion John Sheridan is no part of the problem at present. we'll all disagree with some of his decisions but we must keep him for at least another 2 years.

Interesting thread good points made on both sides , its simply a matter of everyone's choice , and many things can get us to our club as supporters , but the main thing in my own opinion is its an entertainment i love ncfc I do , but my money is earned through hard graft , I want to see value for my pounds spent to be entertained and see real effort put in at there work as I do at mine , totally respect all the above opinions , thought I would add mine . 

Maybe it's age related in the sense that any younger fans will only have had the Munto season to really enjoy, so I'll try and put my personal viewpoint from a different perspective.  Imagine your Grandad starts suffering from dementia - the bloke who gave you so much happiness and fond memories for many years just isn't the man he was, in fact he's a shadow of his former self.  Do you decide to stop bothering visiting him any more?  That's where I am with Notts, though obviously on a much lesser scale than the Grandad analogy.  The many memories I have of the likes of Jimmy Sirrel, Jack Wheeler, Haydn Green, Don Masson, Les Bradd, Pedro Richards etc mean I have formed an unbreakable bond with NCFC.  I will be making my way down to Meadow Lane as long as I am physically capable, even if it's to watch us in the Conference North.  Joe Jones is possibly right in describing that as misguidedly loyal and delusional.  Even though it's undoubtedly an emotional decision, for me it's also a logical and rational one.  I do it because I want to.  

I suppose the one glimmer of hope is that while the Grandad can only get worse, football is a "funny old game" and Notts might just return to their former glories one day.  Just hope I'm still around if it happens! 

I can't make midweek games, which might be a good thing at the moment! JS is not the problem overall, he still has to shift a load of deadwood before he gets his proper side together, but there are a lot of things wrong with some of his signings and he needs to own up to that fact.

It is demoralising going to the ground and finding less than 4000 inside, from the family stand I can barely here anything from the Kop, it's now too big a stand for the amount of supporters that are in it. What happened to everyone that used to go in Z block? We always sung no matter how bad we were, now its like a morgue and has been for several seasons.

I disagree about the Kop @Fozzy, the problem isn't the size of the stand, it's the fact that people just don't sing. At the Luton game a bloke in front of me was constantly trying to get the crowd going, and nearly always failed. Even the people in the ground are missing the buzz right now. Like it or not, folk are more likely to sing when we're winning (or likely to win), and our win ratio at home has been pathetic for years.

In my opinion John Sheridan is no part of the problem at present. we'll all disagree with some of his decisions but we must keep him for at least another 2 years.

I've been saying this quite a bit to friends, the club was a mess before Sheridan came, but Sheridan saved 2 teams last year and knows what he's doing so we have to trust him

Well I have come again and it's half time and worse than Newport, Sheridan has to start to take responsibility for this shambles , let hope the second half improves 

@ohstanleyaborah @ivansneck. "Sheridan knows what he is doing"? "..saved 2 teams last year"; " we must keep him for another 2 years". Too which I respond...

Does he?; Saving 2 teams with an instant improvement in form; Why?

Let's reflect on the facts... Playing the immobile Smith as a striker when we have Montel not getting on the bench. Twice lucky, this reminds me of Derry's season, going well into November and the team gets found out.... Sheridan has signed players of no discernible quality apart from say O'Connor whose flashes thereof in minutes can be counted on one hand.

With all his "experience", one cannot risk his January decision making with any degree of confidence? 

On the coaching side, can anyone have any confidence of the setting up of a team at home? There is zero discernible quality in midfield. Stead's goals have been largely created by himself. 

It pains me to say it... we need a management change now. Leaving it any longer in the forlorn hope things will improve is courting relegation disaster.

Nearly 50 years a Pie but even I have lost the enthusiasm to go on like this, watching dull as dishwater football, which Jamie had the rights on and now JS has continued.

https://medium.com/@jacobncm/something-really-has-to-give-692de8f37c3c#.wg9k2muog

Very good points made here, hard to argue with most of them.