The fallout from Lillian Greenwood's meeting with Alan Hardy

[ARLukomski 711]

 

[Super_Danny_Allsopp 1,875]

With the information given, everybody should take off their rose tinted glasses and it is quite clear that;

- Alan Hardy doesn't care now what happens to Notts County F.C, or the care of the fans.
- There are no buyers willing to meet his ridiculous asking price.
- He can't, or won't, be paying any wages.
- He would rather sell to a convicted fraudster who meets his asking price than someone who would actually benefit the club.
- He is right up there with Munto as the worst owners of this club. Munto actually achieved success though, so could possibly trump them.
- Administration is now the strongest possible outcome, with liquidation a close second.
- Our existence as a football club is under severe threat.
- We probably won't even be able to fulfill our banarama whats-it-called conference fixtures.


Oh to be a Notts County fan.

**** you Alan Hardy. Snake.

[Who r ya?? You Pies!! 973]

Sell to the highest bidder , do me a favour, contradicts himself with , no buyers , been totally reckless in his ownership. 

Ive seen some tough times over the years with real fears for the very existence of Notts , but this really is critical times , can’t see a way out , we would be very lucky to go into administration in my view maybe then new owners , gutted , proper sad . 

[DangerousSausage 2,991]

Well that was sobering. We now can't even pay small bills and there seems to be little hope of anything happening soon.  

[SouthwestPIE 45]

Tinted glasses? Admin won't ruin the club if a buyer believes they can get Notts on the cheap. I would suspect more would hold out for this outcome as they could save more money. The clubs only in real danger if the fans don't start getting behind what it is they support, rather than using AH as a way to alienate themselves.

[upthepies 1,685]

I can't be having all this doom and gloom that some fans always spout when its not going well, yes Notts are heading into a major disaster but whilst there is time, there will be hope. I think some fans struggle to overcome knee jerk reactions at times.

The club should be okay, worse things have happened in the past and the FA should review Alan Hardy's reign and see if he's been neglectful.

[NottsTastic 86]

It's got some answers, which is better than the idea of protesting. I joined the group and everyone wants something different, people my age seem to be wanting to cause trouble. It's all dragging on but I praise the efforts with this, all the supporters groups did the right thing.

[Super_Danny_Allsopp 1,875]

13 hours ago, SouthwestPIE said:

Tinted glasses? Admin won't ruin the club if a buyer believes they can get Notts on the cheap. I would suspect more would hold out for this outcome as they could save more money. The clubs only in real danger if the fans don't start getting behind what it is they support, rather than using AH as a way to alienate themselves.

I was perhaps talking about myself hanging on to the faint hope that a takeover was around the corner. Now it's clear that it's not.


There are now rumours Neal Ardley will quit, and who could blame him?

Just to put things in a footballing perspective, if we do somehow manage to limp our way until the start of the season, we will look like this in our first game;

- No manager and no coaches
- No owner
- Administration (at best)
- First team will be made of youngsters who haven't been paid
- Unable to get any players in

If that's not a club teetering on the edge of liquidation, I don't know what is. 

[DangerousSausage 2,991]

20 hours ago, SouthwestPIE said:

Tinted glasses? Admin won't ruin the club if a buyer believes they can get Notts on the cheap. I would suspect more would hold out for this outcome as they could save more money.

The trouble with that idea is that administration will mean a ten-point penalty and, as we don't have a competitive squad, nearly certain relegation. A new buyer won't have any interest in operating the club in its current league, they'll want to take it forwards, yet relegation to the Bananarama North would put us two promotions away just from League Two as well as putting the ground in jeopardy. What serious prospective owner would want that?

I agree with @Super_Danny_Allsopp, the odds on us even starting the season seem to be lengthening all the time. Where will we get the kits from and how will we pay for them (after Puma's experience, any prospective supplier would surely want paying up front)? How do we pay the staff we need to open the ground on a matchday? Suddenly the things that every fan takes for granted seem like insurmountable hurdles. I was hoping against hope that an announcement was going to be made but it now feels a long way away.

And what happens if the "May" group is revealed as our new owners? I don't want to give a penny of my money to those crooks. And would a gang of convicted criminals even pass the fit and proper person test?

We do, however, owe the National League an enormous debt of gratitude. They've done us a big favour by confirming our place in the league despite it being far from clear that we can fulfil our fixtures. I can't help thinking that if we were called Woking or Kettering we'd have been expelled by now.

[Chris 15,839]

On 28/06/2019 at 21:20, Super_Danny_Allsopp said:

- Alan Hardy doesn't care now what happens to Notts County F.C, or the care of the fans.
- There are no buyers willing to meet his ridiculous asking price.
- He can't, or won't, be paying any wages.
- He would rather sell to a convicted fraudster who meets his asking price than someone who would actually benefit the club.
- He is right up there with Munto as the worst owners of this club. Munto actually achieved success though, so could possibly trump them.
- Administration is now the strongest possible outcome, with liquidation a close second.
- Our existence as a football club is under severe threat.
- We probably won't even be able to fulfill our banarama whats-it-called conference fixtures.

1) He's only interested in protecting his assets now, this is dead obvious.

2) Nobody in their right mind would buy a club with a lot of debt and still sell out what's reported to be over £5m.

3) He's only bothered about his own lively hood now, nobody else - the trolls have won.

4) Are we actually surprised by this? I doubt Ray Trew would have sold to anyone who offered lower than Alan Hardy, in my opinion, if he knew what would happen now I highly believe he would still sell because these types of people just want their money or as much of that they can get.

5) Munto wasn't actually bad owners, it's the lies and fraud which get it. Peter Trembling actually did a very good job running the club, the people behind the scam knew he wasn't the brightest bulb, but clearly had faith he could take much of the fallout. It reminds of when Notts appointed Jamie Fullarton when things was turning ugly, hide behind someone.

6) Admin is very likely, I do believe potential owners are smart enough to realise that they could actually pick up the club much cheaper. Let's face it, if they have proper plans behind them, being docked 10 points or whatever it is, it shouldn't bother them.

7) It's in more danger, yet I do believe it will turn out to be okay. As I say, I think buyers are carefully watching how they might be able to save their own cash - I only see the sale happening without administration if Hardy accepts a much lower offer.

8.) The club will field youths, a squad will be put out.

[DangerousSausage 2,991]

@Chris Can I just passionately disagree about Munto? They had no money and Peter Trembling was dishing out contracts worth 40k a week. That's not running the club well. And without Steve Cotterill (who Ray Trew brought in) we may well not have been promoted either, which would have been ridiculous with the squad we had.

[liampie 5,399]

17 hours ago, DangerousSausage said:

@Chris Can I just passionately disagree about Munto? They had no money and Peter Trembling was dishing out contracts worth 40k a week. That's not running the club well. And without Steve Cotterill (who Ray Trew brought in) we may well not have been promoted either, which would have been ridiculous with the squad we had.

i recall reading that sven was highly involved with dishing out the contracts, considering they managed to achieve what they did without any real money. kasper was not paid, man city did not receive the £1m fee for him. i would agree that to people who believed notts had literally millions, they did well. hardy blew money last season and almost got us relegated. the season notts returned to league two, ray trew wasted funds going all european and the following season had hardy not come in the club would have been relegated.

the issues with notts come well before munto.

[CliftonMagpie 1,136]

Well done to Lillian Greenwood for getting some answers, I hope more pressure makes Alan Hardy realise that the club just needs to be sold. God help him if he puts the club into admin, many fans speak about harming on social media which I don't condone but he brings much of the hassle on himself.

[CTID PIE 28]

If I was Alan Hardy, I wouldn't annoy or be rude to someone like Lillian Greenwood. MPs can be stubborn people.