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A Plea for Support from an Elderly Notts Fan

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I share @Wilfordpie's concern. It's heartening to see such level of loyalty and consistent support. This club has seen its fair share of highs and lows. I've been there when we've celebrated victories and found it equally vexing when we did not fare as well, but I believe that it's part of the journey. Criticism, constructive one at that, is always welcome as that's the way to improve but pointless cacophony and verbal abuse, especially targeted at younger players, serves no good purpose.

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It hurts me to see this lack of respect from some fellow fans. These youngsters out on the field are doing their best and they need all the support they can get. It's easy to sit in the comfort of the stands or at home and pass comments, but it takes a lot to actually go out there and perform. They need our respect and appreciation. We need to stand by them, not against them.

This all shows a fundamental lack of understanding of pre-season friendlies.  If they were there for us to win them all we would be playing the Dog and Duck 2 XI.  They are there to learn lessons from and so the Stoke game was a success in my book.  All this gnashing of teeth and wailing just shows a lack of intelligence and class.  I think the youngsters will have learned from the experience.  They will have learned that they need to be quicker, sharper and more accurate. They will now know that they need to work hard relentlessly and not lose concentration, even for a second. 

Unfortunately they will also have learned that there are a group of people in the crowd who are fickle, who don't think or have any filter and who are not supporters (in the widest sense of the word).  Hopefully, some of the older heads will pass on their experience and help them deal with it (I don't imagine we are alone in having a load of drama queens sat n the stands).  They come to watch a game of football, not to support the team...even if they have the tops, scarves etc.  The Kop being quiet is fine by me - it's a friendly, a free hit at stronger opposition and with nothing to play for then it's hard to get up for it in the same way.  I bet if we met in the cup it would be different in most ways (apart from the moaning minnies).

I don’t understand why anyone who pays to watch a friendly would get that emotionally involved that they would turn to being idiots towards young players. I can’t say a fan would do this. There is just no need, I can’t do anything but condemn it if it was a league match. If you call the youngsters and complain the club doesn’t give them a chance, you are more than a moron.

We must learn to respect the efforts of all our players, they don't make mistakes or play bad on purpose. These friendly games are there for Luke and his staff along with his players to prepare for the up and coming season. The information gathered helps inform the decision making process for on and off the field giving all including the fans great hope for another successful season. Therefore enjoy without judgement. 

"Never give up, Never stop believing, and Always fight for The Badge."

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Like everyone else before me, I feel there’s no need for it at all. There should be a zero-tolerance policy for abusive shouts. Once a fan is kicked out a few times, they will start to rethink things. Likewise, if people call it out, then it will most likely stop. I have told people in the past to give it a rest when all they do is moan or shout offensive things. I remember a few years back, Tyrell Waite getting stick from this fan who sat near me.

He had missed a chance, but it wasn’t the worst effort. He shouted to get Waite off the pitch, among comments about him being hi and not good enough. I told him to give it a rest; he still continued, but it did make others heckle him into stopping. There’s just no need for it; it causes them hassle, others headaches, and it takes away from everybody’s enjoyment, not forgetting killing the confidence of the players.

I am shocked by reading this. I feel there’s just no need. I hope these people do not have season tickets because it could be a long season for them. If they moan all the time, it won’t be long before they cause an issue and another fan ends up in trouble due to growing sick of it. It’s a friendly, for heaven’s sake. Why single out poor performances, especially when the players are young, and then give them abuse? It’s beyond comprehension. I do hope it was just a very small minority and nothing more.

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I am 13, I would never abuse a player verbally. I get fed up of seeing older fans act so immature and childish. I try not to listen to them, I hope the players don't listen too.

There’s no need to be abusive during a friendly game. I could understand if it were a difficult league game like Swindon away and the players let the fans down, but not in this situation. I think some fans can’t help themselves, and while I would understand in rare circumstances, I still personally wouldn’t be abusive. However, if fans where I am sitting decide to pipe up, I will quickly tell them to pipe down. Call it out; if you don’t feel comfortable being direct, tell a steward.

There is absolutely no need for abusive behaviour. I am glad that the Forest friendly turned out to be a better experience for me. The people near me were very encouraging, which was good to see. There is no excuse for negative behaviour, and I don’t believe real fans would resort to that. Let’s hope that the fact that people are willing to call them out will deter them from doing it.

I've ended up in rows on a number of occasions where I have told people to cool it only to be told 'I paid my money, I can say what I want'.  I don't buy that and say so.  It usually ends up in a heated discussion!!

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