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Merry Christmas to Chris, his team, all my fellow PON members & all those who visit our site.
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Merry Christmas from Norway
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It gets earlier every year! But happy Christmas to you all in advance
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One for @DangerousSausage to comment...
Germans decry influence of English as ‘idiot’s apostrophe’ gets official approval | Germany | The Guardian
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Linguistic body has relaxed rules on use of apostrophe to show possession, not traditionally correct in German-
Every language goes through a linguistic evolution over time. I would have thought the German language is no different.
Lots of languages have influences from other languages.
The full stop, and semi colon are familiar to the majority of written languages, why not the apostrophe?
If you listen to the Indian languages such as Urdu, there are lots of English words incorporated into that language.
English, has become the World language of choice, so there is no surprise that English influences will spread into different European languages, such as German.
I also think social media will push linguistic evolution around the World at an ever increasing rate. You even hear the occasional English word in Chinese, Japanese & Korean when they speak.
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Yeah, we discussed this at work a while back. It doesn't really make a lot of sense as it can be used in the context of shop and business names but not in ordinary speech - so Rosi's Bar is now correct, but Rosi's Familie is still wrong although the apostrophe denotes ownership in both cases. Make it make sense.
Another problem is how it is used. Many Germans who love to drop in Anglicisms often do so incorrectly. Most also have no idea where the apostrophe key is on keyboards - on German keyboards it's on the hashtag key, but the key to the left of the backspace has something that looks very much like an apostrophe. However, it's actually used for French accents. So many people here would write Rosi´s Bar instead of Rosi's Bar (trust me, it looks pig ugly when you're not writing on a forum).
All languages evolve @Robbie, but many of the "evolutions" in Germany are decided by a committee in a pretty arbitrary and wrong-headed way. One example is gender-neutral nouns, which are normally used in the plural. The problem is that the female form is slightly different - the male form of "the student" is "der Student", while for women it is "die Studentin". The plural - "die Studenten" - is therefore assumed to be male because of the lack of an "in" suffix. So over the past few years we have had various attempts at constructing plural forms that are gender-neutral, each stranger than the last - StudentInnen (yes that's a capital I), Student*innen and the current flavour of the month, Studierenden ("those who study"). They could just abolish the female form like we did in English (does anyone still say manageress or directress?) and use the same word for everyone, but that would be far too simple...
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Credit to @ARLukomski for the heads up
Will Patching 'no longer a Derry City player' - Derry Now
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I have a nagging feeling that Crowley seemingly wants to leave in January... OK transfer fee receivable but the trick then is to find a like for like replacement, even an EU sourced player maybe? Do you think Patching is now good enough to fill the Dan Crowley role as a CAM?
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18 minutes ago, Piethagoram said:
I have a nagging feeling that Crowley seemingly wants to leave in January... OK transfer fee receivable but the trick then is to find a like for like replacement, even an EU sourced player maybe? Do you think Patching is now good enough to fill the Dan Crowley role as a CAM?
I hope you are wrong, as Will Patching for me isn't good enough to replace Dan Crowley.
They are vastly different players in my eyes, Patching being more of a midfielder who pulls the strings with his passing. He might have developed more having played for Derry, but I don't think he would be the right type of replacement in this theory.
Patching would be a good signing for Carlisle, but I can't imagine him wanting to stick around with them because I can't see them doing much this year and I think improvements will only be seen within 2–3 seasons. I think they are destined to be a team who finish nowhere near a team fighting for playoffs. Unless they strengthen their squad massively, which could be done before, especially at the end of this season.
Personally, I don't think Dan Crowley wants out of Notts. I believe the niggles with the injuries mentioned, and I think he's committed to Notts. I also don't see the sense in jumping to a League One club when we have every chance of getting promotion if we could get the right mentality/effort across the board.
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Would he want to come back? He’ll have experienced being part of our relegation squad that was a total mess and given he never played I can’t imagine he enjoyed his time here. I know we are under a completely different regime now but sometimes these memories can put you off.
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Apologies if this has been posted before
A worthy look, even if to revisit
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21 minutes ago, Robbie said:
Luke Williams had League experience & although he got us promoted from the National League, he did leave Notts in a mess when he went to Swansea, & Luke didn't have a load of injuries to contend with like Stuart has had.
That's true, but our defence was weaker.
Alex Bass, Matty Platt and Jacob Bedau are all massive signings which are starting to suffer from our current tactics. This season, we have improved the squad overall, but failed to make sure the depth is there in the scenario of injuries. That let Stuart Maynard down, but it just shows how complex football is.
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4 minutes ago, Chris said:
That's true, but our defence was weaker.
Alex Bass, Matty Platt and Jacob Bedau are all massive signings which are starting to suffer from our current tactics. This season, we have improved the squad overall, but failed to make sure the depth is there in the scenario of injuries. That let Stuart Maynard down, but it just shows how complex football is.
And Stuart was behind getting those better players in and removing players that weren't good enough .
Whereas Luke kept those players that proved to be not good enough for league 2.
The next half a dozen matches will be important for Stuart I think. If he comes through it with a reasonable record & think the owners will stick with him.
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Agree. The Brothers will support SM unless the next 6 games are a disaster. They know chopping and changing does not work and I believe the stats support this too. Changing manager mid season only works less than half the time.
A manager needs at least 3, preferably 4 windows to make it his team. This allows contracts to run out and free up funds as well as time for tactics to evolve and improve with experience. Sadly, most owners and so many supporters fail to see this. Fortunately The Brothers are not so short sighted. We need to remember how fortunate we are to have them as owners.
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Everton takeover by Friedkin Group completed as Moshiri era is ended
US company buying 98.8% stake in Merseyside club
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Piethagoram can save you money on gym membership then
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I need to try these later I’ll blame you @Piethagoram if I end up in traction.
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I think I'll just keep to the walking, but I'm sure younger people will find those 11 suggestions useful.
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Quoted from AI Google with it's answer to the question. What is a fairweather football fan?
"A fair weather football fan is someone who only supports a team when they are winning & loses interest when they are losing. The term "fair weather fan" comes from the analogy between good weather & trouble-free times.
Fair weather fans are often the subject of study by scholars interested in the psychology of sports fandom. Some things that researchers have found about fair weather fans include:
They tend to have a lower level of allegiance to the team than die-hard fans.
They may distance themselves from the team when they perform poorly, describing the team as "them" instead of "us".
Die-hard fans may view fair weather fans as traitors to the team.
The term "bandwagon fan" is sometimes used interchangeably with "fair weather fan". However, a bandwagon fan may jump to support a different team that is successful or trendy, whereas a fair weather fan only engages when their current team is doing well".
Is this a fair analogy of the fair weather football fan or is there more to it than this?
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Perhaps a more apt description are "armchair fans". Economics can play a part, as "fair weather" fans may only attend a number of games a season and maybe have family commitments too.
Northern Ireland fans tend to be either Liverpool or Man U. These are armchair fans, geographically distanced.
The strength of the Premier League, one can get school kids following the big clubs as they want to be associated with success, when perhaps their local teams miss out ( maybe the parents too are not interested in football).
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I don't like creating segregation between supporters.
But the fickle fair-weather fans who don't really support the club, just the moaning and attention it gives does drive me crazy. Every club has an element of this, but I am more inclined to give my full support despite how I feel, yet I am more than happy to share and discuss my feelings. I don't think wanting a manager/head coach out, makes anyone a fair-weather fan by default. There are many other aspects which go into it.
I am aware of fans who stopped watching Notts regularly during the years we were in the National League, who refused to attend away games, and rarely went home games but made it to the playoff final. They have seldomly started reappearing at away games, and are at most home games now. That is fair-weather by my definition, but it's their choice. I just don't like how they act like 'super fans' upon their return.
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I think that introducing playoffs had a big influence in the game. Many more Clubs now have a chance of success in making the playoffs.
Take this season in League two. Sixteen teams have a realistic chance of either getting an automatic promotion place or making the playoffs.
That fact on its own gives the fans of those clubs a much higher expectation that their club could get success, & with it possible promotion.
Even those committed fans who go to all of the home & away matches may demonstrate their frustration & be critical of the Manager/Players much more than in the past, when expectations weren't so high.
And of course another factor is social media where fans can vent their frustrations online too, which wasn't available for them in the past.
People are just less tolerant & more inclined to criticise others nowadays than the people of the past. That phenomenon is not just reserved for football, it can be about anything.
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18 hours ago, Piethagoram said:
If my memory serves me correctly, didn't Ray Trew sell Jack Bearne in the last days of his tenure ( December 2016)
Jack Bearne signs first professional Liverpool FC contract - Liverpool FC
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Jack Bearne has signed his first professional contract with Liverpool FC.Yes, correct. Ray Trew sold Bearne. Donga He and Kion Etete were both sold by Alan Hardy.
I do hope the lad manages to make use of his time at Liverpool, and forge an EFL career because it's lost potential otherwise.
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@Fan of Big Tone I have purged PON and CloudFlare's caches.
CloudFlare suggests giving users 30 minutes for their cache to clear. Hopefully, this resolves things again.
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55 minutes ago, Chris said:
@Fan of Big Tone I have purged PON and CloudFlare's caches.
CloudFlare suggests giving users 30 minutes for their cache to clear. Hopefully, this resolves things again.
Yep, thanks @Chris sorry to be a pain, it only seems to happen to me.
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Listened to Stuart's Maynard's Pre Bradford Press Conference that was held this morning.
He talked a little bit about the dissapointing performance at Salford & why the Notts performance was very poor.
He talked about the state of the pitch at Salford & the excellent performance by Salford, who used the pitch to their advantage, & executed their tactics well.
Stuart talked about the disapointment the players felt, & how they wanted to change things against Bradford.He also hoped that the Notts fans will get behind the team on Saturday.
The question was asked if any more injured players were going to return, and we learned that Robertson was the closest to returning, maybe next week
Edwards, Jones & Grant would be looking to return in January, however Stuart was keen to say that those players will need time to get back up to speed, to be able to play to their best again.
We also learned that Notts were also looking at other players to bring in during the January window, but he didn't expand on that.
I didn't think that Stuart looked so confident in this interview than he has of late. Maybe he is feeling the pressure a little bit. I do think that the Bradford game will be very important for Stuart to get a win.
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https://www.saga.co.uk/magazine/health-and-wellbeing/best-cheeses-for-health Stilton, Emmenthal- Show previous comments 7 more
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My favourite sandwich as a child was cheese and jam, usually cheddar cheese & home made strawberry jam.
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If cheese is naturally 'wet' forget it, if there's mould or holes - just give it to the cheese connoisseur, who believes every imperfection is a sign of true fromage artistry.
Provide me with cheddar by the bucketful or Edam in delightful rolls.
If it comes from 'France' send it back, as if you don't know how to eat 'Brie', well there's no point - it won't become your bestie.
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Gary Bowyer: Burton Albion appoint ex-Blackburn and Dundee boss as head coach
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Gary won a Championship trophy for Dundee then almost immediately found himself dismissed by the owners. It's a potty football world sometimes.
Please to see him appointed Head Coach at Burton. I wish him good luck. Hope he is supported by the owners with some cash in the January window.
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I don't like Gary Bowyer. I find him to be one of those managers who appear to have something stuck, in an area I won't mention. However, it does seem to be a good appointment on paper for Burton.
He's the type of manager who gives youngsters a try; his experience in management is mostly positive. He should be able to help sort out the dressing room, and get them back to focusing on results on the pitch. It's just his personality, and the tendency of short term tenures that makes me feel unsure. A few years back, when he was linked with us and constantly being 'framed' as the next manager by a former Nottingham Post writer, I really felt like it would have ruined my love for Notts if it had been true.
I wonder if Burton fans will be able to overlook how Bowyer can act?
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If you are looking to catch up on all the action from the committee debates on the football governance bill, check out our free to view Substack site. You will find all of 4 days of debates covered...- Show previous comments 3 more
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2 hours ago, Piethagoram said:
One can see from the above posting, why the Premier League is against it. A Football Regulator is needed to pull back the Premier League from running the game by economic power
I agree that we need a football regulator. I read that the bill doesn't give the regulator power over parachute payments & as I've said previously, women's football needs to be regulated too
Womens football is going the way of the mens game where the women's top league is pulling away from the rest & most of the money is concentrated there.
The big six in the women's is becoming the big six in the men's.
Hopefully at committee stage it will be made into a comprehensive bill to allow the Regulator the power to override decisions by the FA if those decisions go against the interests of all league clubs.
One of the first decisions I would like to see is FA Cup replays being reinstated, & parachute payments heavily regulated.
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Parachute payments are a difficult issue. Promoted clubs, in order to remain competitive in a higher league, need to offer say 2 year contracts minimum. If they get relegated after the first season, the financial legacy of funding those 2nd year contracts may become problematic
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In this day and age, contracts have clauses which lower a player's salary in the case of relegation and other aspects, such as agreements upon a release clause for a set transfer fee is a bit of a double-sided coin.
I am all for football to have a regulator, but it needs to be completely independent.
The Premier League, along with clubs who experience a yo-yo like existence - bouncing from division to the other will not want to see their finances being limited in any sort of way. The parachute payments will be difficult to remove from the game, although most of the time it seems clubs use the money to sign players to improve their squad - rather than it being to protect wages etc.
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An interesting read https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidferrini/2024/12/13/how-us-goalkeeper-jonathan-klinsmann-can-follow-in-jrgens-footsteps/-
This is the first time I have heard of Jonathan Klinsmann. It's possible that I am forgetting, but I am really surprised to learn that Jürgen Klinsmann has a 27-year-old son playing for Cesena.
His career doesn't really stand out for much; his father's was impressive. Jonathan's looks like he's had limited opportunities.
Either, he's not a very good goalkeeper and has a career in football based on his father/families name, or he's been unlucky. I don't think he can follow Jürgen's footsteps: it looks like he's living in his shadows.
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An interesting read on the Sam Smith's pub chain
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@Piethagoram that is a really long read but I found every word fascinating, I remember going in a Sam Smiths pub in Harrogate it was one of the best pints I’ve ever had. It’s fascinating to read how Humphrey runs his empire.
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When I lived in Hull, Sam Smith's was the go to beer!
It comes across like a medieval fiefdom! Perhaps, he should care for his landlords more! All the closed pubs, surely the land value has increased somewhat! From a business perspective, perhaps the land is worth more than running the pubs as a stand alone business?
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It is good to preserve a specific pub culture that avoids modern distractions. This creates a more authentic drinking experience. Traditional pubs have a unique charm. They offer a cosy atmosphere where people can enjoy a quiet drink and good conversation.
Avoiding distractions like loud music or multiple screens allows for a more relaxed and genuine experience. It preserves the pub's authentic charm.
2 hours ago, Fan of Big Tone said:@Piethagoram that is a really long read but I found every word fascinating, I remember going in a Sam Smiths pub in Harrogate it was one of the best pints I’ve ever had. It’s fascinating to read how Humphrey runs his empire.
It was like listening to one of @super_ram's tales.
I am not really a pub person, so it doesn't really jump out of my head or make me feel encouraged to continue reading. I admit I don't know much about the subject, but I appreciate how it shows that pubs have unique charms and quirky styles rather than all looking the same. I also love the pub sign; the artwork is awesome! That does make me want to visit The New Inn.
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If he gets the job it’ll be interesting to see how he gets on.
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Did anyone else find it odd how Notts was mentioned as if we were a footnote in his career? Despite managing Notts for the 2017-18 season and being sacked shortly into the 2018-19 season, the article barely acknowledged his time with us.
His time at Leyton Orient is similar to what he achieved in his first year with us, perhaps a bit unfair that he got sacked and replaced for finishing just outside the playoffs.
Yet his experience seems to be solely within League Two, and to be honest, his appointment to me would say that Bristol Rovers are preparing for relegation rather than hoping to stay up. Kevin Nolan leads a party-type dressing room, reminiscent of the drinking culture of the 90s within the English game. I think that's the wrong type of attitude to bring in when you need to act as professional on the pitch, and focus on getting positive results.
It's one thing to let your hair down, but there's another establishing a rowdy carefree drink fuelled by boozing when you are on the verge of relegation.
Whilst I have never seen, and I am not sure the rumours of Nolan being a p**s head here at Notts. I am aware that he was around a drinking culture, and often went out with his "favourites" who did tend to drink too much (the players).
I don't think it would be a sensible appointment, mostly because I can see all this repeating.
I think he has the ability to get the best out of a team, but only when things are set up right or appear to be the case. The moment things start to go wrong, he becomes more red in the face than someone stuck upside down on a roller-coast loop, he starts panicking, making poorer decisions and visible signs of stress (such as sweating all the time). This will be on the off for him, if appointed at Bristol Rovers. He is a good coach, but I'm unsure if he can be a successful manager for an extended time. He's hardly Joey Barton, but I suppose they see a similar character in Nolan. Surely, they could have given Matt Taylor longer?
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Celtic overtake Rangers, which clubs have won the most trophies ever in world football?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yg344zz1ro What to do if you meet a polar bear?.... Punch it on the nose -
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Good advice but would pensioners, the vunerable and less well off know how to set up their central heating correctly?
And if they don't, would they be able to afford an engineer to set up their system properly and show them what to do?
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Hmm, interesting article but to be honest I’ve given up worrying about energy bills I just want to be comfortably warm so if I’m cold I turn the heating up, simple. I know I’m lucky enough to be able to afford it, I feel sorry for those that struggle to pay their bills and have to be cold.
6 hours ago, Robbie said:Good advice but would pensioners, the vunerable and less well off know how to set up their central heating correctly?
Well I’m a pensioner and I would know how to set it up if necessary, I don’t think we should bracket all pensioners as being technophobes or dim and need help.
I do however agree that some will need help and hopefully they have younger relatives or friends who can help.
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We have three gas wall heaters. We have them serviced every year to ensure they are fully efficient.
When we had a gas boiler at previous properties we had them serviced yearly too, and the engineer would check out the radiators and bleed them if necessary to remove air.
It is important that the heating system is as efficient as possible. But because of the cost of living, some may skip on the servicing to save money,
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Millwall manager Neil Harris to step down from role this weekend | Millwall | The Guardian
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With Harris's contract up next summer, I wonder if the club told him they wouldn't be renewing it, and he offered to go earlier?
Having Macca back on loan would be great, but I doubt it will happen. The new manager might be keen to work with him, and if he does go out on loan, I think it's more likely to be in League One.
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11 minutes ago, DangerousSausage said:
and if he does go out on loan, I think it's more likely to be in League One.
Knowing our luck he’ll go to Mansfield.
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35 minutes ago, Fan of Big Tone said:
Knowing our luck he’ll go to Mansfield.
Or Wrexham!
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Jodi Jones. Out till at least January 25.
Curtis Edwards. Out till at least January 25.
Cedwyn Scott. Possibly available in two weeks.
Alassana Jatta. Head injury protocol. Possibly available in two weeks.
Lucas Ness. Possibly available in two weeks.
Kellan Gordon? Wasn't in the squad for Morecambe.
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George Abbott & Matty Platt are in contention to play against Colchester on Saturday after missing the game Crewe, according to Stuart Maynard, speaking at is pre Colchester presser.
Dan Crowley has also been training with the team & is on his way back to match fitness.
Maynard. "Dan Crowley's really close"
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Just 3 players not yet available for selection after injury. Robertson wasn't in the squad against Salford. No reason why.
1 Scott Robertson
2.Jodi Jones
3.Curtis Edwards
4.Conor Grant
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Gordon was absent from the squad on the weekend, Cisse got the nod as one of the back-up wingbacks. And I noticed Cedwyn Scott was missing too surely he'd have been involved as, defensive options aside, the bench for Salford was pretty weak. It would be strange decision to just leave him out if he's not injured.
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Nmai nominated for monthly award | Official Salford City FC website
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Kelly Nmai has been nominated for the Sky Bet League Two Player of the Month for October.Kelly N'Mai - Wikipedia
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Why the ahah....it's not funny
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13 minutes ago, gtownjohnno said:
Perhaps their Manager!!!!!!
I see Burchnall is available!!!Whatever happens nobody please suggest him to replace the BT engineer!!!!
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I thought Haji Mnoga played well and he was on trial with us for a period during pre-season. And Tyrese Fornah, on loan from Derby, in midfield was very good for them too.