Well done to Matt Palmer. It’s great to see fans voting for different players, and I think the winner was spot on. He’s earned it.

Well done Matt. Richly deserved. He's certainly starting to play like the old Matt we know.

really pleased for matt palmer, this is his second and not third so far right? congratulations matt.

really pleased for matt palmer, this is his second and not third so far right? congratulations matt.

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I know the whole no shots thing first half wasn’t great but at the same time Tranmere really didn’t look a threat either and they only scored through our needless sloppy play.

Our reaction was good though and I thought the second half performance was very impressive. I liked how we didn’t just sit back when defending the lead, we were definitely a lot more pro-active off the ball which I really did like. Even in the last minutes of the match when the Tranmere defence had the ball we had Dennis, Jatta and Grant all pressing hard and they were backed up by the wingbacks and midfield. I think we’ll create some good chances just from making opposition defenders/midfielders rush when on the ball.

Set pieces still make me nervous, I think we got a tad lucky at times. Yes, some good blocks in there and you definitely need that but we still aren’t great when it comes to clearing the ball it all seems a bit panic stations to me.

You can laugh now it’s over but Martin Paterson was getting really wound up at the end of the match about the ref not blowing for full-time. Stoppage time is and has been “a minimum of…” for as long as I can remember, so if the 4^th official displays 5 minutes but 6 minutes are played that is completely within the rules.

Anyway, I seem to be able to find more positives with each passing match now, my optimism levels are growing!

Paterson handled things well after the break, making the right decision to bring Gordon on for Cotter, who had a tough first half. The switch paid off straight away, with Gordon looking lively and finishing with real confidence. Dennis also deserves credit, he’s got a knack for being in the right spot and is quickly becoming a key part of the team. Tranmere did push us late on, but we stayed calm, which hasn’t always been the case in past games.

Roos made a vital save near the end, and the back line looked more settled than usual. All in all, it was a solid showing away from home and should give the lads a boost going into the next set of matches.

I would say it was the best performance so far this season. Tranmere were quite happy to allow us to play, and it felt more like a League One game. I did think they were very poor defensively, but on the break, especially those quick counters where they outnumbered us, it made me nervous. At least until they had two or three attempts and blasted them into the away end, nowhere near the goal.

Until they took the lead, I honestly thought it would be us who would score before anything came from them as a serious threat.

It was a sucker-punch moment, which seemed to drop the lad's head, but despite this, I thought we ended the first half somewhat encouragingly with how we played. I also can't stand Josh Davison. His attempts to fool the referee were very frustrating, and a lot of Tranmere Rovers players tried to play the dirty side of football. Relentless pushing, aggressive diving, and careless elbow jabs. I was pleased that we gave it back when we could, I think it was Jacob Bedeau who left a little on a challenge he faced, which caused the tackling Tranmere player to rethink that antic.

In the second half, Notts played some beautiful football, and we did look keen to get on the scoresheet.

While it wasn't perfect, it was a huge step forward in terms of performance, and having seen the majority of games, I thought if things had clicked, we could have thrashed them. I do give credit to Tranmere for keeping the pressure on us; their final 10–15 minutes made it difficult viewing.

Jake also said to me, "We are awful at time-wasting," and we really are. I don't condone it to the point where you look like Newport, or some of the sides we have seen this season, but sometimes you have to take the pressure off defending by running the clock down.

Upon the whistle blowing, my first thoughts were to upload the full-time match graphic and then look around to see the fans reaction. It does become a bit depressing when you see fans unhappy or those who let frustration get the better of them. It was great to see the celebrations and the players returning to properly celebrate in front of us, especially with the Tranmere players watching.

Yes, there is an excellent channel on YouTube called "Well, I Never."

It's a horrible story, and this is how I learned about Fanny Adams and the background of the saying.

This Excellent Channel is also where I got the Majority of my information from for this thread. Along with other sources. It is a Gruesome Tale, but I found it interesting , so I thought I'd share it on PON, I Didn't Know it had already been covered by @Chris .

I mentioned it in passing in a YouTube discussion; it was a while ago, and there's no harm in a topic focusing on the story. I only shared the video to give some context to how I learned about it, plus it's just an awesome video.

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Good luck to him, he earned that - making the play-offs is something on his CV, to go with what he did at Wealdstone. I hope him and Alves do well.

I think his strength is, as he says, on the tactical side - he does seem to have a good understanding of the game. Doubling down too much on this strength was his undoing at County IMO. He became too clever with his team changes and too much focus on game tactics seem to neglect all those other things which make for winning football - the psychological side, the aggression, the toughness, earning a shirt and the right to keep it.

Everyone is on a learning curve with what they do, so maybe he'll find this balance at York and get them back in the EFL. That will definitely be their target and expectation.

I've been looking further into this appointment, and Stuart certainly picked himself one Hell of a Challenge. Apparently according to York City Fans their Owner, buys players without conferring with his Head Coach, which seems the Previous Coach Didn't like and one of the Reasons he left, or was sacked sounds like a situation not unlike what's going on over the other side of the Trent. Good Luck Stuart, seems like you're gonna need it.

Stuart Maynard took on a tough job. He stepped in after a head coach who had led Notts back into the Football League. That was never going to be easy. He did what he could with the squad and the situation. I hope he does well at York City. He deserves a fair chance.

@thommo . Thanks for the Complementary Feedback. Glad You Enjoyed The Topic.

A very interesting story @Wheelbarrow repair man There are strange superstitions all over the World in different Countries with their different ways & traditions.

For instance in China, The biggest superstition in China revolves around the unlucky number four (4), or tetraphobia, due to its pronunciation being very similar to the word for "death" in Cantonese and Mandarin.

The number four can be left out of phone numbers, floor levels & product names.

Interesting Superstition @Robbie. To slightly elaborate on the number 13 in a Poll 14% of People refuse to stay on the 13th Floor of an Hotel and 9% demanded a New Room if they were booked into Room 13. While talking of my writing of this thread to a friend he reminded me of a story, from our school Days. That being one girl pupil in a cookery class Refused Point Blank to make Chelsea Buns, convinced it would bring Bad Luck to her team Tottenham.

2 hours ago, DangerousSausage said:

Agents can't break the rules, but they're employed by players, not clubs. An agent isn't breaking the rules by trying to get a move for his client, and the player will hardly complain either if he gets a glamour move and a big pay rise out of it. It's part of the game unfortunately and there's only so much the club can do.

If the injury was fake, then the agent would be doing something wrong. I’m not saying it definitely was, but if it was made up, that’s not fair.

We don’t know for sure, but if it wasn’t Notts who said he was injured and it turns out to be a lie, then someone should look into it.

Things like this can make people lose trust, even if it’s hard to prove. It could still be possible to find out the truth.

If it’s all sorted now, maybe the best thing is to keep an eye on the agent and hope Jatta listens more to his team mates who want the best for him.

@KingofCounty, I think lots of fans believe it was the agent’s idea and that Jatta wasn’t really injured. It sounds a bit dodgy to me. His agent has been saying silly stuff, like blaming the club because Jatta didn’t go to Germany. That’s just being childish.

He’s meant to be a proper professional, and most agents wouldn’t get mixed up in things like that. It’s not a good look.

Just look at what’s happened with Alexander Isak at Newcastle. There have been rumours that his agent tried to push him into a move, though it’s only talk at this stage. Still, it doesn’t look great for either of them. If that sort of thing happened in League Two, it would be even worse. Isak’s case is more extreme, with reports saying he threatened not to train. That kind of behaviour doesn’t help anyone and makes the situation messy.

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On 30/08/2025 at 05:39, canuckpie said:

Actually I'm struggling with Paterson, " let's just say he's not my cup of tea" however if he can do the business and get the team winning and climbing the league table I'm ok with that. I just find it hard for a self proclaimed "Honest person" to continually avoid or skirt around the very few direct questions asked in those pre match interviews.

i think he will only be honest in areas that wont put his neck on the line, so in terms of the players but even his comments after tranmere baffled me a little. just a few strange ways he worded things, and gave praise in areas that did not match my own eyes. i still like him, and believe he will open where possible.

Good morning, it’s a lovely start to the day.

Saturday means matchday so safe travels to those making the journey. I’ll be listening on the radio hoping for a good performance but first I want to go a 5k walk with Mrs. T, I’ve paused my park runs for a while it was getting a bit much and I wasn’t enjoying it. I may start again when I feel up to it.

Have a great day whatever you are doing.

Good morning, we’ve got a cloudy day with the occasional sunny spells.

Our niece is popping in to see us on her way back from her trip to Finland she’s got a land rover that she sleeps in with two dogs, she’s a real action girl, ex army and fearless. It’ll be good to catch up.

Other than that no much happening, I might watch the red dogs against West Ham on the telly later.

Have a great day folks,

On 29/08/2025 at 10:10, theAnticlough said:

Same here, much prefer the computer. I keep my phone as far away from me as possible!

It's good you get where your parents are coming from. Years down the line you'll remember all the things you did outside and with friends, and too much unproductive time on devices will seem like a waste of a youth. I guess a healthy balance of all things is a challenge for all of us, but especially for the younger generations. When school restarts you'll get back to a normal routine

I use my phone when I just want to have a quick look or reply to something fast. It’s handy when I’m out and about or not near my computer. But I like using my computer more when I want to really get into the chats and look around the site properly. It’s way better with a big screen and easier to see everything.

The site still looks nice on my phone, which is good. But I’ll always pick my computer if I can. I’m not one of those people who’s always glued to their phone.

Also, my arms aren’t that long, so reaching for my phone isn’t super easy anyway!

Yes you would. It was a shambles.

Here's my photos from Wednesday night if you did want a look anyone: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10163780306689104&type=3

That's really shoddy @Dan, I've also heard some stories about that now. As the stadium is obviously only accessible from one side, you'd have thought they would have some proper infrastructure in place rather than just muddling through somehow.

In general I'm a fan of old grounds because they generally have that sense of history, even if the original stands are long gone. But the point of it all is ultimately to watch the game, and preferably without a restricted view. If we are going to have new grounds, I'd like there to be something unique about them.

Agreed. Give me an old ground every day of the week. I’ve been to Tranmere today, I’d choose going there every time over Anfield or Bramley Moor Dock.

@Robbie and all PON Members interested in this sort of thing, there's a You Tube Channel called Royalty Now Studios. The Artist Becca is a very talented Artist who tells each subject's life story and uses AI to turn their Painted Portraits into what they would look like in Real Life and What the person would look like if they were alive today. It's just not Royal Portraits, but other Historical Figures and is Certainly Worth A Watch.

I’d say it’s more about his wages than his age. He might be seen as too expensive for us. It’s one of those things where we see other teams doing well after taking a chance on a certain player. They go for it, and sometimes it pays off.

Meanwhile, we try to be clever with who we offer bigger wages to. Players like David McGoldrick are seen as worth it, while others aren’t. Then when we are trying to save money, we won't renew their deal with an amount that suites both parties. With Didzy, it was almost like here you go, that's our offer, take it or leave it.

Ollie Palmer or Paul Mullin. I don't care where players come from. They are proven goalscorers who I would welcome if Notts could afford them. But unfortunately at this moment, Notts clearly can't or won't.

We had a ready made proven goalscorer in David McGoldrick at the club, who hinted & hinted that he wanted to stay but Notts just let him go. For me, letting him go defied all logic after spending a considerable amount of money on a Hybrid, Pitch.

I doubt he'd have cost more than McGoldrick. He wasn't exactly in keeping with the model either, but we signed him when we had the chance.

Wild speculation mode on: how does anyone know we weren't in for Palmer? Perhaps Jatta had a move lined up that was dependent on us signing Palmer? It's a bit of a coincidence that Jatta is suddenly available for selection again the moment Palmer signs elsewhere, but I'm probably reading too much into it.

This could be a very good way for me to take in some information about the German league, so consider me interested in being educated. I might be able to tell Jake something he doesn't know the next time he beats me on FC 2025, or whatever version it is.

I will also be keeping tabs on Darmstadt, as some of their fans have been very friendly to Notts since the friendly game between us and them.

It would be nice if we could invite them to play at Meadow Lane in the future.

I'll help you keep tabs @Chris! It would be good to have a rematch on home turf, but there are many countries that are logistically easier than the UK for German clubs. All the same, some do come over. And us being the world's oldest professional football club gives us a bit of curiosity value for German fans.

This tickled me last weekend. Context: Eintracht Frankfurt had just beaten Werder Bremen 4-1, following which the goalkeepers exchanged shirts.

Sky reporter: 4-1! Is that the opening day victory you were expecting?

Marco Friedl: I'm a Werder Bremen player, in case you didn't know.

@piedestrian . That is the same question I asked when the Doctor was appointed, How was the Doctor going to stop players getting injured? It was the wording of the Club's statement that gave the impression that's what the Doctor had been hired for and I have made my comment in the same vein, to show how poorly worded the statement was. Why hire a Doctor to sit on your Technical Board when surely the Notts medical Team should be capable of doing the same job? How much is the Good Doctor costing the Club? Because it he ain't going to be doing it for nothing. It seems that if the club get some extra Cash, instead of keeping it to help run the Club, they seem quite content to Spend it on some Frivolous Idea.

I think the Bromley game showed us how much we will miss Platt in defence. He is what we have missed for so long, a no nonsense defender who guards the goal, clears the ball, joins up with the midfield, and critically inspires confidence in his colleagues.

I'd go far as to say that Bromley's first goal was the sort of clearance he'd have dealt with, giving is all three points.

I think McDonald is a decent defender, as is Bedeau. Alijofree shows potential, but i want to see more.

It all shows how vulnerable we are.

Whilst, we are talking about injuries, Refs need to be protecting Jodi better. he's being targeted, by players who are having a free reign. I fear an injury will take him out again, unless he is given more protection.

Mai Traore’s injury seems odd; it’s never mentioned, and even when there is talk of injuries, it seems he’s become a ghost.

Joshua,

I wasn’t at last weeks game.

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20 hours ago, Joshua said:

Do you have "DublinPie" printed on your Notts shirt, and were you at the Bromley match at Meadow Lane last Saturday? I saw someone with that name on their shirt heading towards a car parked across from the club shop, and I did wonder if it might have been you.

I believe that's a fan called Brian, mate. He doesn't live in Ireland now, but does have DublinPie on his shirt.

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It could be worse. The BBC might as well have its own version of You’ve Been Framed with the amount of slip-ups they make.

People used to want to work for the BBC if they went into media, and it has been a good place for people to learn their trade, but since they have gone all in on the TV licences, pandering to political parties, and focusing on being woke, nobody does now. Only those who want the money, because it's not somewhere you want to blow your reputation working with.

They are becoming an embarrassment to Great Britain.

Haha… Year of the Whores, celebrated worldwide! 😂😂😂

You’ve got to switch the subtitles on during the Notts interviews. Alassana Jatta becomes Alister Gatta. Brilliant.

are we playing to our strengths yet? martin paterson spoke about how he wanted the players to do this, and not only do we look out of shape at times. we still dont seem to have key players fit enough to play for 90 minutes. 5 games in we are seeing improvements, but most seem slow and counter productive with how we fail to defend. we struggle with headers when the defence dont have time to prepare and we dont defend as a team like we have previously done. the pressing to win the ball back or to get the secord or third ball back is missing.

In earlier games, I felt our centre backs were pushing forward too much, while the midfield and attack seemed to sit back too often. It left us a bit out of balance. We’ve looked better against Shrewsbury and Bromley, with signs of improvement. But defending only works well when the whole team is organised and ready for it.

Having seen every game so far, bar the home win against Shrewsbury Town and the Wigan Athletic cup game.

I think it's more communication that is hindering us, along with a lack of movement. When we are doing well, it's a lot more natural, but out of possession, it seems almost forced to make any effort. We have gone from being a team that can quickly intercept the ball and push on. To a team that loses it quite easily, it is a lot more indecisive as to whether we are going to try to win the ball back quickly, and those 2nd and 3rd balls are being chased like we would have under Luke Williams.

A fair case to the point of it being shape-related is a fair one, as we are very relaxed at times when it comes to keeping it.

When Kelle Roos has the ball either in his hands or at his feet, who often wants the ball? When we have conceded or almost conceded, who is reacting in the way that makes you think they are fired up and don't want to lose or draw?

There has always been an element to Notts being slow; however, previously in games where we have played well, we quite rightly deserve the 3 points. We have come back from setbacks and pushed. That winning mentality, along with the desire to make space and to win the ball back quickly, is currently missing.

@piedestrian Things haven't been the same since Jason Turner. Of course, we will never know, but maybe, things could have been entirely different player wise at Notts if he was still around. Maybe some of the players that left would still be here & the communication between club & fans would have been better too.

Sound the alarm, Jatta was involved and running in the training session video from today! And yes I have already searched “can you sprint with a back spasm?” for those wondering, no not if it’s serious and in the video he looked more than fine to me.

Martin Paterson was asked about Alassana Jatta in his post-match press conference ahead of Tranmere Rovers.

These are my thoughts on what was said.

It would be Great if Notts managed to have a Half Decent Cup Run @Robbie . The Trouble is the Magpies never seem to get the Rub of the Green in Cup Competitions, regarding Top Opposition, I think it was when Notts were drawn away at Liverpool and at Home to Manchester City in the League and FA Cup Rounds were the last Premier League Teams the Magpies played.

@Wheelbarrow repair man I understand meeting a top six PL club in the 3rd Round, there will be an element of luck involved, & Notts have to get through two rounds before they can meet a PL club.

I think the quicker these players can gel together & the quicker Paterson can identify his best starting eleven is dependant on more game time which the cup competitions can give him as well as the league games.

The Case for Prioritising a Cup Run?

How about glory and the standing and respect of the club.

We enter only 3 competitions so why can't we take all of them seriously and try to go as far, or as high, in each of them as we can?

As you can tell, I'm a traditionalist here. I believe too many lower league clubs became infected and influenced by behaviours of the elite teams - resting players, picking your games and priorities, poo-pooing the domestic cups to chase the dollar. Teams down the league copied these behaviours without ever checking if their fans were on board with it.

Even now success in the cups is cloaked only in the language of money. To hell with that, I want to get to cup QFs for the respect and the glory. Those victories over Newcastle and Everton and the QF at Leeds were what made me a ardent Notts fan. I remember those great games under the lights not the money that was earned from them. I love the fact we made the FA Quarter-finals in 84 and 91, giving our best against the eventual winners in both cases, Everton and Tottenham. Again, as a fan, I don't give two hoots about the money - let Palmer take care of that, it was about the thrill of the run, the respect for the club and all the memories created.

I still think all of that is the reason to have cup runs.

I was one of the fans at the game trying to get our lot to sing, it was very depressing, but the more voices grew in number, the better the atmosphere became, and I firmly believe that the encouragement from our away end helped the lads perform.

A lot of people expressed that they were only going to see Anfield, and many thought we stood no chance.

It's fair to say I believe in cup magic, and the whole experience was really something special. Some Liverpool fans gave Jake a scarf; they took a photo with us as we both had our "Every Liddle Helps" t-shirts on, well Jake had his on underneath his Notts shirt.

I wasn't really happy with the amount of negative comments people told me about Liverpool, the typical "don't leave anything in sight or it'll be stolen." I felt that sort of stuff happens everywhere, but it did make me nervous as to what to expect. Most Liverpool fans that I came across not only made a fuss of Jake but were very inviting and friendly.

The game itself saw us come back and made it a memorable night.

I looked up the team sheet from that match: B Bialkowski, M Dumbuya, M Smith, G Liddle (c), E Stevens, J Campbell-Ryce, J Labadie, M Fotheringham, D Bell, C McGregor, Y Arquin Substitutes: F Speiss, G Tempest, C Thompson, A Boucaud, A Coombes, R Murray, R Nangle.

David Bell started, now there’s a player who I am amazed passed his medical! I just looked it up, he had four operations in three and half seasons prior to joining us. So yes his time with us went exactly as you’d have expected. And Adam Coombes coming off the bench to score that equaliser, he's now an absolute stalwart of the National League South scene.

Some good players in there too to be fair, I loved Bailkowski, Dumbuya, Liddle, McGregor and Campbell-Ryce all really good players for us in League 1. It was a great occasion, had the match happened today it would’ve gone straight to pens, maybe we’d have had a different outcome!

Very good point @canuckpie Every head Coach we have had have players they have preferred over others. I thought the Technical Board would stop that sort of thing happening.

I don’t think it’s strange. He’s under pressure, and managers often say things like this when results aren’t going well. Martin Paterson probably knows how the club is handling recruitment. He might feel Notts aren’t looking for the type of player he thinks we need, and he could be hoping fans speak up more. Or maybe it’s just a way to shift focus because things haven’t gone our way. I do think we need a striker. Kelle Roos might be okay, but he’s not going to win awards or keep many clean sheets. Still, the defence has to take some of the blame too.

Good Evening and welcome to Master Mind. And our first Contestant Please. Your Name?

Martin Patterson

And Your Specialized Subject?

Stating the Obvious.

I Think this Proves Patterson Isn't the Right man for the Job. The Recruitment team don't have a Clue, and the Club need to ship players out who are Not League 2 Standard.