Skip to content
View in the app

A better way to browse. Learn more.

Pride of Nottingham (Notts County Community)

A full-screen app on your home screen with push notifications, badges and more.

To install this app on iOS and iPadOS
  1. Tap the Share icon in Safari
  2. Scroll the menu and tap Add to Home Screen.
  3. Tap Add in the top-right corner.
To install this app on Android
  1. Tap the 3-dot menu (⋮) in the top-right corner of the browser.
  2. Tap Add to Home screen or Install app.
  3. Confirm by tapping Install.

Donga He sold!

Topic summary unavailable for this older discussion

This topic falls outside the current Topic Summaries window because of its age, so a catch-up is not available here.

Subscribe to unlock enhanced topic summaries on eligible discussions while helping to support Pride of Nottingham and features like this.

Featured Replies

Let's face it he was bound to leave sooner or later, would people rather us have gotten nothing?

Once the lad knew he had some serious interest, he would have wanted to be off and it may have impacted his development or performances. It was clear the lad was a special act but praise the scouts for finding him.

  • Replies 32
  • Views 5.8k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

I'm more disappointed now by the way our chairman conducts himself, deleting tweets when he's been caught out and being snide towards young fans. Shame on him.

"Strive not to be a success, but rather to be of value."

Absolutely gutted for all you Pies.Having read the reports on his early pre-season game I was looking forward to seeing if all the hype about him was true.Well against Leicester his cameo appearance really excited me.I was expecting to monitor his future progress with Notts.When @super_pie had his photo took with him and we spoke to him he came over as a genuinely  nice young lad and seemed surprised how much we enthused over his display.I don't understand the ' whys and wherefores'  of the situation but it doesn't seem fair to me the way things have turned out.I wish him well and I hope his potential isn't wasted at Wolves.

superram.png
Community Leader
Subscriber
Subscriber

I would speculate that the comments made on the radio about the amount of money over the transfer budget Notts are, was nothing more than a pre-planned attempt to lessen the blow of this. The fact Hardy has deleted the tweet about the lad sold to Liverpool, I just feel Hardy has done enough to avoid criticism. Yes it's very disappointing but Notts may eventually become a selling club.

Let's not forget what was said in the topic @samwatto2008 started about the Peterborough United chairman.

I think it's a crying shame that we could not of held onto for at least a season. I thought he would have broken into our squad and this would have been better than sitting on a academies bench.

I think it's outrageous to say the least.

There's no point in the academy if the club is going to sell the best first-year scholars and if he's under contract, of course the club can reject. I would have accepted this if it was next season but I just find it hard to accept now.

Look the club has to sell players, the club can't win either way because if they hadn't accepted this the fee could have been much lower.

I get that everyone wanted to see Donga He feature in some form during this season but he's moved on, why does things like this always resort in some form of meltdown. I praise Alan Hardy for not coming off Twitter tonight.

It's a real shame for us. Football is a spectator sport. Surely it would have been better for everyone if we had the chance to watch him play and develop, rather than him playing youth team football in front of one man and his dog?

Going by Alan Hardy's first tweet, it appears that youth player contracts are not worth the paper they're written on. I think this rule was part of the Football League's deal with the Premier League for a bit of extra revenue.

The duck that ate DangerousSausage

ryapor-moon-3311534_small.jpg

Community Leader

He could have been a flash in the pan and turned out like the rest of the youth players we have had, I am not saying he was because I thought he looked a quality prospect but I am glad the club got something for a player.

It makes a change.

I can understand the frustrations.

I have also just been on Twitter to look up what Alan Hardy has been tweeting and I am horrified by his reactions, he seems to be on the defensive which is a common sign for someone who might not be telling the full truth with what is being said. As we have seen previously, liars like to claim all sorts of things and they want you to really believe them.

Perhaps if this is the case it's more of a half truth situation?

Maybe Alan thought the offer was good but didn't want to provoke a reaction by outright selling him. If you claimed there was nothing you could do, which I am sure there is. At least some reasonable people would understand, again this is speculation.

I just don't know why he can't understand and put some of the tweets directed to him as frustrations. I wouldn't want any young family member of mine [not that I do] being tweeted so disrespectfully by a middle aged man.

When people ask what 'American Pie' is about, they're missing the point. The song isn't about the lines themselves - it's about what is between the lines. The song is about what isn't there.

Don McLean

Like everyone else, when I read of He's departure, I was gutted at first that I wouldn't be seeing this young man play in a Notts shirt. I'd been EXCITED at that prospect since watching him at Roy's Rolls and Basford and so looked forward to seeing him play 1st Team football for US.

HOWEVER, having now seen AH's posts and done a bit of research, it very much appears that WE WERE LEFT WITH LITTLE AND NO OPTION BUT TO LET HIM GO.

I hadn't realised that under EPPP Compensation Rules, had we not let him go once he'd notified the club he wished to leave, we'd have been subject to relying on a Tribunal valuation - for a 17-year old lad who's not in the first team. That would obviously have affected any va£uation placed on him by that Tribunal and it appears the club took (what they consider to be a decent fee) rather than let a (negative valuation) happen. That, appears to have been the ONLY way forward, under those very difficult circumstances.

In addition, at only 17 years old, I understand there's NO Contract between him and the club that could have been upheld, so chances for us to 'capitalise' - apart from this 'deal' with his new club (that may/may not involve 'clauses') - was ALL there is.

It's clear AH was unaware of the EPPP Compensation Rules too, when he wrote admonishing the Trews and also only recently became aware of interest in He and he justifies his shock at what was 'available' to be done by writing to the EFL Chief, only he says, to discover the rules are PL run/controlled!

I also understand that WWFC were one of THREE PL clubs who came after him, so don't believe - once he'd got his 'PL head' and 'PL ambition on' - there's much that could have been done, by anyone, to persuade him he'd be better off staying at a L2 club. (However much I believe he'd have made our 1st Team this Season so could/should have gained valuable experience here before making such big decisions about what, should be, a long future).

It can't go unnoticed too, that WWFC are Chinese-owned (Fosun International) with the club having done a deal in 2017 with a Chinese TV company, to live-stream, via pay-per-view, their games to millions of Chinese nationals.  

In light of all of this, I'm not at all surprised that Dongda He had his head turned and has seen his future, elsewhere.

Good Luck to the lad. BUT also 'good business' for NCFC, however thoroughly disappointed this has left me, (and loads of others) personally, feeling!

Very disappointing, it is not the fact we sold him it is the idea that we probably sold him for less than 100k which is not a good deal in my eyes. I mean I could be wrong as we have no idea of the fee, but Wolves are not stupid they would've bargained for this deal right until it was at it's very cheapest. Good luck to the lad but he will never make a premier league appearance in the coming years and unfortunately rot in a new Wolves loan system just like Chelsea, lad was too young to understand what he was getting into. Chased the dream but the dream will soon become a nightmare.

17 hours ago, Chris said:

I'm struggling to put into words how I feel.

There's a lot of disappointment going through my mind, yet I am excited for Donga He - he seemed to have a bright future and I do hope for the best for him. I just feel Notts have been very quick to market the lad, now we know why there was such a rush to field some of the youngsters. He told me and @Magic magpie that he had signed a professional deal and had been told he would fit into the first team plans.

@super_pie and his friend Callum really took to him.

I hope it's the decision for both parties, I would be annoyed if Wolves wasted his career and stopped his pathway into the first-team.

37671849_10157120472015961_3498792805860

Fantastic bloke has a bright future such a humble bloke as well. At least @super_pie has his autograph 

@samwatto2008 - it was interesting to read of this investigation by BBC Sport.

It would appear that our club's ONLY claim's on He would have been to seek Academy costs in any 'sale' (of a non--Contracted player) who'd given his written intention to leave NCFC - or face a Tribunal 'valuation' of him.

AH was obviously so shocked at our club's 'options' in this that he took the trouble to write to the EFL CEO. "Run and controlled by PL" is what he was told, and THAT, unfortunately, is how it would appear to be.

This may, of course, be the exact reason why Hudderfield (and maybe others soon) don't feel the 'worth' of an Academy.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41839083

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Recently Browsing 0

  • No registered users viewing this page.

Account

Navigation

Search

Search

Configure browser push notifications

Chrome (Android)
  1. Tap the lock icon next to the address bar.
  2. Tap Permissions → Notifications.
  3. Adjust your preference.
Chrome (Desktop)
  1. Click the padlock icon in the address bar.
  2. Select Site settings.
  3. Find Notifications and adjust your preference.