I believe he should be given time as he's just bought in a whole new squad and we need time to settle and steady, then move forward. We are showing signs of a decent team and there is the basis of a good team there. It's about extracting that full potential from the side and get them playing fluidly. 

However his tactics must improve. In games we are too negative sometimes. Another thing as well is when we don't leave anyone up from corners. When the opposition have a corner, every player is back. Leave one player up so we can counter.

I know I've said this in a previous topic and I said it in my Sutton vlog. 3 things needed

1) Play for 90 minutes instead of 45

2) Start taking our chances

3) Being braver with the ball in the opposition's half. 

The last point is a big one in us turning draws into wins. We need to use the ball with more purpose and shift it quicker. On occasions it feels like we shift it slowly from one side of the pitch to the other without knowing where or when to play a crucial pass. Need to play more forward passes and be clinical rather than us playing sideways passes that don't get us anywhere. 

More forward passes into the feet instead of panicking with a hoof ball. There's a time to play it on the floor and a time to launch it and we play it better on the ground. 

Regan Booty could play a big part in our season. He always looks for that forward pass but, the only problem with playing him in a 442 with Doyle, is that they are both left footed. 

Like I say there is the basis of a good team it's about getting it out of the squad.

Neal Ardley must start demanding more and dropping those who don't meet the level, otherwise how do you get the best out of players?

At the same time I absolutely agree with dropping players who might be tired, get them able to play for 90 minutes. This is a professional sport and should be a minimal expectations from people, obviously some might need subbing from time to time but it almost seems like if you put a solid shift in that they end up dropped. I do agree it seems to be down to Ardley not knowing the opposition and not knowing whom are his best 11.

This is a good thread - it's good to read constructive criticism of the manager that doesn't descend into calls for his sacking. One post that has been repeated ad nauseum on Facebook is the list of win percentages, comparing Neal Ardley with the likes of Paul Ince, who inherited a newly promoted squad with Hughes, Bishop et al. It beggars belief.

As I don't see the matches live I will bow to your opinions, but a couple of things concern me. One is his habit of chopping and changing the team even after wins. It may be that NA places greater stock in training performances, but it makes it harder for a team to get into its stride. Another is something he shares with many managers, the self-defeating tactic of bringing everyone back for defensive corners. There is also the over-reliance on Doyle - if certain players seem to have a guaranteed spot while others are dropped frequently, this can quickly lead to resentment. Competition for places only works when everyone has a chance.

He does appear to work in a logical way though. He understands that every match is a physical battle that has to be won ("you have to earn the right to play football," as an Irishman once said).

i dont think there is a point to just call for the managers head, its best to discuss and give time.

i personally enjoy reading other peoples views, especially if they are different to mine. i do get annoyed with the poor replies on social media, where people just attack or become really petty. its good to see how people feel.

if the danish brothers sacked ardley i would be surprised, people bang on about them being into stats but surely this includes the long term not just how hes doing now.

they must understand if they give him support, it should pay off.

so far they seem to have given ardley all the support he needs, if they was thinking of sacking him i dont think new recruits would be signed.

Well, I have to say it's frustrating to see NA avoiding subs for the sake of it.

Only time he seems keen to throw players on is when Notts are under pressure, you will see one or two defensive players come on but only once have I seen him do the reserve. I find his interviews to be generic now, when he first arrived he was a breath of fresh air but over time it's become dull and boring.

Tactically, I think he has it set out in his mind and if the players don't perform to this. He becomes insistent that it must.

I think he would find it easier if he gave some players a level of freedom and dropped the mindset of players to a set way, just attack and defend as a team. There's no need to win pretty but performing well is important.

I for one do not see NA being sacked.

His win rate was ruined because last seasons squad was such a shambles, I understand why he's cleared the deck and re-started with new signings. I also, to a point agree that it takes time. I am more than willing to give him chance to sort all the issues out, quite rightly there is no quick fixes and any genuine fan expecting Notts to run away with the National League are part of the issue with what happens.

Some fans just love complaining for the sake of it.

Most fans I have spoken with or heard, just vent frustration and disappointment. Neal Ardley would do better to focus on sorting the mess than worrying about any pressure.

If by Christmas things haven't improved, things might change but I am of the mindset mid-table would be perfectly fine.

I am not in favour of sacking managers for the sake of it, in the short term Neal Ardley hasn't gotten the results the club has needed and if not in this transition I think the club may have parted company with him.

At this stage of the season he should have an idea what his best squad is and how to get the best out of them.

I actually feel he makes the Notts squad unsettled by forcing changes, whilst leaving good players perfectly out of the team. Sam Osborne played a blinder when he started and I think he's only made one brief starter since. This is frustrating because the lad is itching to get onto the field, he performed and contributes. However, he's overlooked by a player who can strike lucky but doesn't put a complete shift in.

His standards of all the players needs to be equal, if a player struggles to defend then there are others things they can do.

I can't help but feel Ardley chooses players based on how they respond to him.

I think he struggles to get the players motivated to play as he sees it but eventually it does get through to them, usually too late though.

I find it incredible that the manager is being put under pressure by those who know least about the professional game, thank goodness they aren’t in charge or we would be continuing steering the same path as previous owners led us down ...... 

there have been at least 3 games out of those played thus far that with a little composure in the 6 yard box and indeed luck on our side (which EVERY team needs) we could, and probably should be at least 9 points better off which would have quietened 90% of the doubters, the other 10% will always be negative even if we had Pep in charge ! 

Yes, of course all opinion has to be accepted, team selection and tactics discussed, but let’s let those that know infinitely better than us run the club on a sound basis for once in about 20 years do their jobs without constant calls for change which really have no foundation at this stage of the club’s redevelopment. Yes Ardley failed to keep us up last term but there aren’t many that would, or could have with the turmoil that the club was in at that time. 

I haven't read anyone call for the messages head on the PON forum, it seems a sensible discussion to me.

I would hope more would just try to get behind the club, I feel the media team at Notts should do more to encourage fans to be on side. There's plenty of creative ways to do this, it might not stop the idiots but everything is worth discussing if you can do it maturely.

Getting rid of him wont do well for getting a new manager or playing games this season, it will just cause unstableness again.

I think at this stage; Neal Ardley has shown more understanding of the players that he has signed. I get the impression that he doesn't know how to get out of the players he didn't sign, such as Matt Tootle.

It's a tough stance, yet it doesn't seem to be personal now.

His in-game tactics and decisions have improved massively with the better options on the bench, such as when Regan Booty and Sean Shields.

Things certainly feel a lot merrier around Meadow Lane, with those who voiced their discontent seeming to either get on board or quieten down.

The clubs only a few points off the top position, so form now will play a massive part in the current season - if gaining promotion is the aim, I think we need to continue to go about it in the manner we have done.

Home form has been acceptable this season, and we need to start picking more points up on the road.

This said I am more than content with Neal now. I think he's doing well and the level of performances have been better. Notts actually attack games creatively and look like a force to be reckoned with.

i feared that those who was very vocal about getting neal ardley the sack, would set the club further back. sometimes, you have to stick rather than gambling. i think ardley is repaying those who gave him support.

I think some of the dismay comes from fans who just wanted to see Notts performing better, perhaps they haven't accepted relegation properly?

It seems hardly Neal's fault.

The club seemed doomed under Harry Kewell, and the majority of fault falls onto the shoulders of Big Al. You can never escape blame mind, it's just so easy to point the finger. However, Neal Ardley has done well so far. I don't see any reason to sack him, I don't see better coming in and I feel his attitude is genuine about wanting to improve from the disappointing aspect of relegation. from the football league.

No one is going to please everyone. The question is get we actually get someone else who would join and do better.