It ends in defeat & Notts are out of the FAWNL Plate.
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I know what you're thinking are Pep and Jose that Good? What are you some Kind of Idiot? Of course they are look at all the Titles and Trophies they've Won between them. This is of course True you only have to look at their Wiki pages and see how Good they are and I'm Not Denying that, but there's something that Bugs me about both of these Football Managers/Head Coaches and that is During their Careers, neither has really ever had to Struggle at any team they've Managed both have gone to Big Clubs where Money was available and having as Much Cash as you need to buy the Players you want, isn't in my Opinion the sign of a Good Manager/Head Coach.
Pep Guardiola.
The Three teams Pep has Managed/ Coached have Been Barcelona, ( only Real Madrid have offered any competition to them) Bayern Munich ( not much opposition) and Manchester City (Liverpool and to an extent maybe Arsenal, have stood in the way of City winning the Premier League). He's never been in charge of Poor Team, wherever he's been Money has been available for him to Purchase the Best Players by the owners. Like most Coaches he hasn't had to lie awake in his bed at night, wondering if his Top Scorer will be fit enough to play Saturday or if his loses, then his Job is on the Line. Never has he heard Guardiola Out Chants or You Don't Know What You're Doing. No Pep has had as had an Easy Coaching Life compared to most of his Peers.
So what in my eyes and I'm sure of many other Non Manchester City Fans, would Make Pep into a True Coaching Great? Lets see him take over a team in EFL's League 2 and take them up through the Leagues and into the Premier League and Win a Major Trophy. Yes a sideΒ that would offer him a Challenge, A Club where they had to watch every single penny, were he would have to Coach and Man Manage his players to get the Best out of them. This is of course Pure Fantasy on my part Guardiola would never accept such a Challenge and So in My Opinion can never rank along side the Likes of Brian CloughΒ Jimmy Sirrel Dave Basset or any other Managers, who have taken their Unfashionable Teams to the Heights of the the Old First Division or Premier League on player Budgets which areΒ probably less than what the Tea Lady at City gets paid.
The Same could very Much be said about Mouriniho, so I wont bother repeating myself. Just lets see Jose take an unfancied team from the Lower Leagues and make them into Premier League Champions or Trophy Winners. But It Will Never Happen.
Notts play Halifax Town Women in theΒ FA Women's National League Plate first round at the Millennium Stadium Feather stone at 2pm
Halifax play in the FAWNL Premier Div North which is a step up from the FAWNL Division 1 Midlands that Notts play in.Β
It will be a tough game for Notts but they can go into the game with confidence due to their excellent recent form, winning their last two away games.
CMON U PIES!
It ends in defeat & Notts are out of the FAWNL Plate.
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Halifax may be a league higher than Notts, but the Notts Ladies gave them a run for their money today.
Once again, the Notts defence was well organised and kept Halifax to just the two goals in the first half.Notts managed a goal of their own too.
Chances were at a premium in the 2nd half with both defences dominating, although Notts had a chance to equalise in injury time.
Notts should take encouragement from this narrow defeat, They kept a clean sheet in that second half which is a big positive considering the opposition today.
It will be back to the league for their next match.
there is nothing wrong with the result, our team gave a good account and managed to pull themselves back into the game. playing a team higher up and only losing by a single goal, its encouraging. hard luck to our players.
Here is my shortlist for the Notts man of the matchΒ
Tsaroulla,Β Crowley,Β McGoldrickΒ
Robertson,Β Platt,Β Austin,Β AbbottΒ
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Well done to David McGoldrick; he deserved it.
Over 63% shows that many fans felt it wasnβt quite open with other players performances. Well done to everyone who voted, even if you didnβt vote for the winner. Itβs important! It shows the communityβs response. So, well done to David McGoldrick.
I do feel David McGoldrick is the right choice, but everyone has their own opinion which is refreshing to see, and I like seeing which players get mentioned as being the Man of the Match. I am pleased for McGoldrick.
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On 27/09/2024 at 18:08, BromPie said:This is the best decision for him and the club. Having Aidan Stone on our books but not playing is never going to do his confidence any good. Itβs funny how Sam Slocombe was phased out last season, and now itβs his replacement.
Footballs a funny old game, can go from not being wanted to be part of the plans. ????
To be honest I never thought he was that convincing. I can't recall him making a proper dive or really getting off the ground.
I think its a good move for him to get some game time and hopefully build confidence. Although I do think Notts should have a third keeper, whether that's Slocombe at second or third and I still think that we should have kept Brooks.
I'm in full agreement with you regarding Tiernan Brookes, Notts Should have kept hold of him, having both him and Bass at the Club I feel would have pushed both players forward. However Tiernan may have sought the move wanting to be first choice or the Club decided to do what they normally do and sell the young Notts Talent for an Undisclosed Fee.
Hi everyone, when you read this I'll (hopefully) be sunning myself on the beach, but, thanks to the magic of technology, here are the next prediction league fixtures! However, I'll very probably be late in posting your results for this round. So here we go - these all kick off at 3pm on Saturday, and don't forget your joker!
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Luton Town v Sheffield Wednesday
Sheffield United v Derby County
Bolton Wanderers v Reading
Peterborough United v Bristol Rovers
Bradford City v AFC Wimbledon
Salford City v Walsall
Hartlepool United v Dagenham & Redbridge
Oldham Athletic v Yeovil Town
The final match of the season sees Notts wanting at least a draw & 2 bonus points to avoid the risk of being relegated.
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Fourth & final day of the match between Notts & Warwickshire will resume shortly with Warwickshire on 143/4.
Notts are already assured of first Division survival.
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LunchΒ
Warwickshire are 248/4
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The match ends in a draw which suits both teams.
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No Not Me, I have Nothing but admiration for the Ex-Notts Manager. These are the words of Former Sunderland Goal Keeper Costel Pantilimon who played under Big Sam in 2015/2016. Despite Allardyce's tactics earning him praise and many admirers for his ability to pick up Results and then save the Black Cats from what appeared certain Relegation, his Romanian Keeper wasn't a Fan of what he called Big Sam's Strange Style Of Football.Β
It wasn't the fact after 17 games that Allardyce replaced Pantilimon with Vito Mannone then Costel, No Sour Grapes? Apparently the Romanian wasn't a fan of being given a day off from Training either, which was something else he found Strange. The thing is there may have been Sunderland Fans who didn't like the way Big Sam set his team up or even his Style of play but if it Stopped Sunderland from Going down, when it seemed Relegation was almost a fore gone Conclusion it didn't matter what Tactics of Strange Style of Football Big Sam got his team to play.
It was after his stint at Sunderland Sam Allardyce became the England Manager, but was forced to Resign after 67 days in Charge after the Daily Telegraph Sting, which was a Disgrace, because I think Big Sam would have been a Good National Side Manager. And after his fall out with Allardyce, Pantilimon moved to Watford where he made a Mere 9 appearances, so Costel maybe you weren't replaced at Sunderland because you hated Big Sam's Strange Style Of Football, more than likely it was because you were a Lousy Keeper.
i guess some players might hold the manager more responsible for bad spells in their careers, there are so many reasons why two people would not get along and with social media everything is always more open than it would be without.
@Wheelbarrow repair manΒ Really disagree on this: "It was after his stint at Sunderland Sam Allardyce became the England Manager, but was forced to Resign after 67 days in Charge after the Daily Telegraph Sting, which was a Disgrace, because I think Big Sam would have been a Good National Side Manager. "
If this were true, why hasn't Big Sam been given an opportunity elsewhere managing a national side?
Football has moved on, Big Sam leaving England was perhaps the best thing that has happened to our national side, in that we have progressed to a footballing head coach style. Possession is everything!
Each to their own Opinion. You have your thoughts on the Subject I have mine.
Right my fellow PON Members I'm going to have to ask for some help on this one. There's been a New Cup tournament Invented brought about or such, that being the National League Cup, to be played between National League sides and Premier u21 sides. Much to the Chagrin of a few of the National League sides. This got me thinking, what about all those Trophies that used to be around but are No longer played for? Some that I name may still be played for but under another name, so with your help lets see how Many Missing Trophies we can come up with.
The Anglo/Italian Cup. Had to be number 1, as this Trophy sits in the Trophy Cabinet at Meadow Lane.Β
The Anglo/Scottish Cup. I'm not sure this was a Competition, it's just I seem to remember Derby being involved in it in the 1970's.
The Watney Cup. Another Trophy Competition I remember Derby being apart of in fact I believe they were the First ever Winners.
The Fairs Cup. This Trophy may have a different name now, but if memory serves this was the first European Trophy won by Don Revie Leeds side.
The Intertoto Cup. This European Trophy also may now have a Different name.
The Home Internationals Championship. Played for by the Home Countries of England Scotland Wales and Northern Ireland.
The County Cup. A trophy which always seemed to involve the Magpies and the Red Dogs across the Trent. This Trophy was played for long before I became a Notts Fan. I don't know if any other teams were involved or Not.
The Brian Clough Memorial Trophy. I know after Cloughie's Death Derby and Forest used to play for this Cup. I Don't Know if it Still Is?
Well there you have my fellow PON Members. Apologies if I've got any wrong or you know that the Trophies are still played for but under a New Name. I'd be Interested to know of any other Trophies that used to have place on the Footballing Calendar but are No Longer contested.
Itβs awful to think that some of our history has been discarded and used for scrap. Players worked hard to achieve those, and we might see them again.
@Wheelbarrow repair manΒ :Β "The Anglo/Scottish Cup. I'm not sure this was a Competition, it's just I seem to remember Derby being involved in it in the 1970's."
Notts were beaten by Chesterfield in the final, how can you not remember that?????
In terms of when Notts were in administration, there was a legal duty on the Administrator to sell ANY asset the club has. That includes historical memorabilia.
In answer to your questions. Regarding remembering Derby taking part in the Anglo/ Scottish Cup, I remember the Rams playing a Scottish and Derby Keeper Colin Boulton was fouled rather badly by a Scottish Forward ( don't remember his name or team). Colin got up and laid him out with one Punch. My Mum was so shocked, she just said OOH he's just Hit Him. And if memory serves the only thing which happened to Boulton was he got a Talking too by the Ref, Not Even A Yellow Card.
As to your second Question, Back in the 1970's I was a Young Innocent Lad who hadn't met his future Notts Supporting Wife and at the time I hadn't been seduced into following the Magpies????
Mauricio Pochettino former Spurs and Chelsea Head Coach and a possible early front Runner to Replace Gareth Southgate as England Manager, has been appointed as the Head Coach of the United States National Side. It will be Interesting to see how he Coaches the side, if he will Adopt the European Style of Football or Pep ball the Expansive brand of Football or Go in a Completely Different Direction? The thing is does the American National Side have the required Skillful Players to play the European Way, or will Poch have to Mix things Up?
Thoughts?
I donβt understand the appointment myself. I think there are far more suitable managers for the national job of the United States, but I wish him well. Itβs going to be hard for him.
@Wheelbarrow repair manΒ You mean they didn't got for Big Sam? Sorry, in jest!????
Just looking at his wiki.
And haven't we seen this style employed all over the English game, even a NottsΒ
"Pochettino favours a very high-pressing, attacking style of football. He often employs aΒ 4β2β3β1 formationΒ at the clubs he manages.
While doing so, he instructs his team to build from the back, intimidate & unsettle opponents with a quick-press system and work the ball into the box."
It just begs the perennial question.
Is this the style that is the be the all or end all from now on, or can the English style make a comeback in our game?
"The English style of football is simple and easy to implement, & the British philosophy is to get the ball up to the forwards as soon as possible.Β The ideal British striker is physically strong, aggressive, and can power their way past defenses".
Notts Head Coach speaks about young Academy prospect, Kameron Muir.
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I can remember Jermaine Pennant's debut:
"Notts County, Jan 2, 1999, Sheffield United 1:1 Β· Notts County Β·Β 15 years 11 months 18 days."
Yes, I am getting oldΒ ????
I've noticed that BBC Sports had an article on him, so it looks like Kameron is getting some national attention already.
I hope it's not the case, but we all know very well that PL clubs & their scouts will possibly show interest in him as the did Jermaine.
I believe it would be better for Kameron to continue to develop at Notts, where he is settled & the club can help him much more, because they know him so we'll.
Played for Cray Valley Paper Mills at Charlton Athletic in the FA cup on Sunday
He looked capable, but I can't say why he didn't step up more often. I remember hearing that he struggled with fitness, but that can't be the only reason. It's a shame, because he had a good record at Chelsea's youth academy.
Still at Cray Valley
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I'm pleased for Adam that he appears settled at Cray valley with 37 appearances & 12 goals so far.
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i hope mk dons continue to struggle, because they feel they are bigger than they are and are one of the worst clubs for thinking they deserve to be somewhere they have never been. them making it the championship has shown that they are still a small club, if they were as big as they think, that should have been a turning point.
here they are back in league two, signing other clubs successful managers hoping it will make them a good team.
MK Dons came into being by being changed from Wimbledon FC.
In my opinion that shouldn't have been allowed.
When MK Dons were formed they should have been forced to start in a much lower tier of the league pyramid to be fair to other clubs.
Clubs should no longer be allowed to move to a different Town & change their name to that Town or City.
According to Super Agent Jon Smith (one of the Co-Creators of the Premier League) as said that theΒ case of the115 charges against Manchester City needs to be Allowed as Much Time asΒ is needed for Arguments to be heard and Legal and Financial Ramifications Understood. Any Decision is Going to be Difficult to Come to.
Which comes Across to this writer that, if the Case Drags on and on People will lose interest in it and get Fed up hearing about it and the the Whole 115 charges will be Quietly Dropped and Swept under the Carpet. Or just to save Face City will probably get Deducted a Few Points and be Given a Hefty Fine, of a Couple of Million Pounds ( Which is Pea Nuts to their Present Owner) then Justice will Appear to have Been Done. They wont get Relegated Nor Will They have any of Their Titles Or Trophies Taken From Them. Because There Is One Rule For The Rich Premier League Clubs and Another for All Other Clubs.
What Do You Reckon?
I don't think there's anything which is going to Stop the Split of Football in this Country (Eventually). As you yourself have commented, there will one day be a European Super League and I Agree Whole Heartedly with you, it's only a Matter of Time. The Premier League's Big Six will Go their Own Way, and they will also take a Huge Majority of the Money with them, from both Sky and Major Sponsorship.
So will the Premier League Bend Over Backwards in hope of Trying to keep the likes of Manchester City in the Premiership?Β By coming to some sort of Agreement with the League Champions? Such has a Small Points deduction and a Few Million Pound Fine and perhaps a Transfer Embargo? Because I think that the Premier League needs Manchester City more that Manchester City need the Premier League.
has it been made public what all the charges are?
i am aware that they have overspent etc, i also remember reading something about them doing what chelsea did that earned them an embargo due to loaning out and signing you talent.
This is a good summary done by the BBC:
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I Enjoy watching these old Matches. A time when Football wasn't just about Money and Greedy Agents hadn't got their sticky Fingers involved in the Game.
I also liked the Notts kit, proper Black & White Stripes on the Shirts, which in certain parts in the video lookedΒ Dark Blue, when the Camera went for a Close Up.
imagine the stick brian stubbs would get if he did that now, fans would be calling him blind but its easy to happen. its a great clip of notts.
Brilliant memories of a very good Notts team that defended well to keep the win intact. I would have been there, somewhere in the main stand then. Coming back is what that team was all about. Eric McManus was a good keeper! I donβt think he could see the first goal until it was too late. It wasnβt a lack of concentration like Hugh Johns claimed.
Notts Women take a midweek trip to Barnsley on Thursday to play Barnsley in a National League match kick off 19:45.
Notts will be hoping to carry on with the good form they have shown so far this season.
Can they add to their 3 wins in their first 5 matches?
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Let's hear from manager Adam Dunleavy on the great win at Barnsley.
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i hope peterborough slip up and we can push closer, i am glad they won their game and that they are doing well. being closer to the top half gives them something to fight for.
Donovan looked very lively. Perhaps, one for #Notts to look at
Highly rated at Birmingham. I imagine he'll be back in at Blues, when Luke Harris' loan ends at the end of the seasonΒ
I don't know much about him, but he sounds like someone worth keeping an eye on, and it will be interesting to see how he ends up doing with Burton and back with his parent club, Birmingham City.
he will be one to watch out for, having come through the chelsea youth system he should have something about him. i dont watch much football above our level, so i dont know of him either.
After a Humiliating 5th round Knock against fellow Brit Daniel Dubois, what is there left for Former World Boxing Champion Anthony Joshua?Β
A.J. Suffered the fourth defeat of his career last Saturday and to me he looked Completely Washed Up, he seemed to offer Nothing against the Younger More Hungry Dubois. It seemed that there was only going to be one Winner in this Fight, from the Very First Round. Joshua did manage to land a couple of Good Punches during the Fight, But Dubois shook them off and moved in to Destroy the Poor looking Joshua.
Frank Warren Dubois Promotor wants a match with the other World Boxing Belts Holder Oleksandr Usyk. But first Usyk must face a Rematch with the Gypsy King Tyson Fury, which should be an interesting encounter. There was a Rumor that Fury had fallen off the Wagon again ( a reference that Fury may have gone back on the Drugs and Booze, which resulted to him being stripped of his license the first time) after his Defeat by Usyk a Fight most people thought he was clearly Winning, before he started getting Cocky and started Showboating and got caught by a UsykΒ punch which Rocked him and turned the Fight's advantage to the Ukrainian. Is the Rumor True? Will the fight Happen? Time will tell.
A.J. as vowed to carry on Fighting Why? So he can become a Shuffling Journeyman who gets knocked from Pillar to Post when PromotorsΒ use him as a Punch Bag stepping stone for their Promising up and coming Heavy Weight Fighters? Give it Up A.J.Β while you've still got your health, millions in the Bank and Nothing to Prove. Enjoy your Retirement your time in the Lime Light as gone, there are other jobs you can do or Train to do, it may Not Be as exciting as Boxing, but it'll be a Damn Lot Safer and you can Enjoy time with your Family, it may be hard at First but you'll get over that.
Tyson Fury wrote a book titled the Furious Method, which was Published in 2020.It is a Self Help Book full of Inspirational Advice For Readers on how to Improve both their Physical and Mental Health. According to Critics. The Book was a Commercial Success and is on the Sunday Times Best Sellers List.
Not Bad For A Simpleton Eh?
anthony joshua should continue to see what fights open up for him and see how things come about, as he could make a return to the top again but it would require focus. the thing boxing is there is ups and downs, even with the very best but its how they cope when handling set backs that makes things count.
That doesnβt make him a genius though. If you are aware of how he speaks and acts, you will have realised he has a very limited vocabulary. Writing a book as a famous person would most likely sell.
There have been many celebrities considered to be not quite smart, to be polite, who have written more than one book to land on the best sellers list. Making a fool out of yourself in Morecambe, after losing a big fight that you claimed in a press conference you had won, and saying people only gave the win because his opponentβs nationality is at war, further highlights the lack of brain cells.
Son of Nick Barmby, played for Notts in 2015 on loan from Leicester City
Now working for Colt Construction
Was half expecting to see Colt Construction listed on the wiki page as a club given he moved to America and played over there!Β ????
Iβve looked a few up, in their second division they have teams named El Paso Locomotive, Charleston Battery and Oakland Roots. They sound like industries not football teams!
He was a nice lad, but I don't think he had the drive to make a career within the EFL.
It wasn't so much his ability; I think he was quite nervous as a player and due to that he never pushed himself. I do think his time at Notts was a waste though. Being the son of a famous player has some weight, but I think an exceptional manager is needed to get the most out of players like Jack Barmby.
I donβt remember Jack Barmby at all. I do recall us taking him on loan from Leicester City, I think it was, but as to how he did, itβs gone now.
As you go through Life Don't you get asked some Daft Questions? For example.
When you go to the Doctors, what the first thing a Doc asks you?
Hello how are you today? And you can bet you answer or have answered.
Fine thankyou. They why the hell are you at the Doctor's?
You're off on holiday, as you go through Customs they ask
As anybody you don't know put anything in your bags? I Don't Know anybody I Don't Know.
Or as a StrangerΒ given you anything? I once went on a Stag Weekend to Amsterdam.
So what's the Daftest Question, You've been asked?
When you're off on holidays and someone asks; are you going anywhere nice?
No, I've paid all this money to go somewhere unpleasant to have a horrible time!
I've been many times to different dentists for treatment during my adult life & the receptionist & staff always tend to ask: How are you, or How are you today?
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When you plan to meet up with someone, you give them the directions and your location. Then when they turn up they go, "So you were here all along, then?" ????
@liampieΒ I'm sure @Wheelbarrow repair man will have his 10 penny worth on this video.????
When I first noticed you'd mentioned me in my Notifications, I wondered How can that be? I haven't even viewed the video. Then I read your comment and watched the video. Ah you know me so well, then again I'm I that obvious?????
Well if the Defense is going to Fanny about playing Tippy Tappy Football in Dangerous areas, then they Deserve all they get. How many times did Notts Do something Similar last season? It just amazes me, both the defender and Keeper could see the Danger of attacking opposition players either that or they were playing with their Eyes shut. What should they have Done ? Even kids in the infant school would know.Β What should the Defender have done Children? If in Doubt Kick It Out Miss.
Yikes, it's a common issue with playing the ball out of the back.
Alex Bass isn't afraid to boot the ball up, which is the right decision if you are being pressed. One of the defenders must have realised they were passing themselves into danger? The own goal is such an owler.
so ceefax was the bbc, but teletext was a similar thing but non bbc and commercial?
looking into the difference i found the reason why its called ceefax - see facts. ????Β quite obvious once you know.
I hate it! ????
The amount of times you would be trying to watch something, only for @super_ramΒ to turn it on and take over the TV screen.
There were some good memories, such as the score updates and the games which were on them. It makes you appreciate the earlier forms of the internet and other communication methods. My children wouldn't know how lucky they are to have mobile phones.
They don't call it ungentlemanly conduct anymore. It's a professional foul now.
Googled it.
"If a goalkeeper handles the ball outside of their penalty area,Β it's a handball offense that's penalised with a direct free kick.Β The goalkeeper may also receive a yellow card if a promising attack was stopped, or a red card if a goal or goal-scoring opportunity was denied".
raddy looked like he knew he had made the mistake but had forgotten where his position was, the everton keeper was well beyond the area and knew exactly what he was doing.
I agree with,Β @liampie.
Sometimes back then the paint wasn't very good, so it was a lot more difficult in the heat of the moment to check your positioning. It's funny how he wasn't booked, but I do think the referee made a smart choice. I think things like this lead to stricter rules though, where the decision is less about the ref's thoughts and more down to the rules exactly as they are written.
Β Worcester City v Notts C Women
The kick off is 2pm Sunday
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Let's hear from the Manager, Adam Dunleavy on today's win.
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it looks like the team has improved a lot since last season and have started very well, the limit in promotion from the league seems to limit things but its positive signs. i am pleased the pies picked up another win!
Great win and start for our women's team. Proud that they have started strong, and I hope to continue to see the signs of their hard work in comparison to last season. They are looking likely to stay up, and the building process of the team is promising.
Congrats to them for the win here!
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That needless foul v Grimsby still rankles
its a good signing for boreham wood, issue for me is not his ability or how he performs but he just has not settled. the aberdeen move seemed like a dream move, but i think it happened to early for him. he would have done better to sign for a league two team, get minutes and more experience and stay settled for a few seasons before making the step up. he never seems to settle, so how does consistency come?
stockport did not really make use of him, same at colchester. this is his chance to do that.Β
I would say it's a mixture of not playing regularly and Jayden Richardson not applying himself, it's difficult for young players to find their feet once they leave their parent club - especially after being loaned out a lot. He really should have signed for a team that would play him, then show commitment to them by avoiding transfer's like the one he had to Aberdeen.
I fully understand why he went, it was a massive opportunity and clearly the move came from his time with us - as they signed Cal Roberts too.
Hopefully, he will now settle at Boreham Wood.
My shortlist for the man of the match are the followingΒ players,
Reynolds, McDonald, Austin
Cundy, Gordon, Hinchy, & Brown.
Poll will close 9 pm Wednesday.
When you vote can you state who you voted for & why?
Kellan Gordon gets my vote. He had a good game. I thought he played a big part in us winning it.
The poll is now closed.
Thanks to all who voted.
Congratulations to Kellan Gordon, who wins the PON man of the match award for his defensive & attacking play, & scoring the Notts first goal with a terrific curling shot.
Well done, Kellan Gordon for winning the Pride of Nottingham's Man of the Match against Burton Albion in the EFL Trophy. ????????
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I thoroughly disagree. Pep for me. Just look at the managerial failures of Jose in recent years. Don't forget Mourinho at Chelsea, he discarded "talent" like Mo Salah and Kevin De Bruyne.Β
With the Amount of Money Pep has been given at the Clubs he's Managed, any decent Manager, Could Have Achieved What He Has Done. He's had an Easy Ride, Not unlike Lewis Hamilton in F1 never had to Struggle, always had the Best Car, until he didn't have the Best Car and has been found Wanting Over the Last few Seasons.
i think romelu lukaku can be added, but i still think jose is the better manager personally.
both are different types of managers tho.