I honestly can't see any teams coming in for Connell Rawlinson and Aiden Stone, not even if they are transfer-listed for free. There might have been interest already, we won't know, but I think those two would be best trying to mutually agree release terms with.

Connell Rawlinson is a great guy. I have a lot of respect for him and many memories, but we can't keep players for sentimental reasons - not at this level.

I also feel somewhat sorry for Aiden Stone, he tried and seems to lack confidence, but I just don't see anyone in League Two wanting him. I think he should consider dropping to the National League North/South.

Will Randall should attract some form of interest, even if it's just from within the National League. There's a player in him, but it hasn't worked, and I don't think he integrated himself well into our squad. He always comes across as a loner, that might be his personality but when I have encountered him - including when I gave him a print I did of him, he sort of seemed rude and uninterested in anything but himself. He could be shy, but hasn't left a good impression on the field or off it.

the club are probably trying to work on this, but i can see one or two going out on loan. randall and rawlinson, but i think we will be stuck with stone.

they all need to be playing, rawlinson has done his job and will be remembered for all his efforts.

I’m not sure when the transfer deadline is but I’m sure there’s still time for them to move on, it normally gets busier nearer the deadline.

The BBC are supposed to verify other news stories but obviously do not verify there own.

Typical BBC. 

I won't go on rant about the BBC but it simply needs defunding & the licence fee abolished in my opinion.

@Robbie

Yes I know it was just I was commenting on the Inept  Reporting by the Head Football Writer of the B.B.C who in a Report Declared that England were playing Slovakia.

 Which shows like most Media their articles are Never Proof read. I remember some kid who wrote for Nottingham Live that Derek PARVIS once owned Notts County.

i must admit i less bothered about watching england than notts, but i do like watching important games and i am hopeful they can put together a good performance. i will be watching.

His performance for Crawley Town last season and the goal which he scored at Meadow Lane, it was him at his best. I still feel a bit of resentment for the way he acted once he knew he wasn't going to be offered a deal by Notts. Good player, especially at this level and should do really well for Hartlepool United.

He was in and out of our squad during his final season, and personally I think he gave up.

I hope he serves Hartlepool well because I have a lot of respect for the club.

good player, decent turn of skill and pace. i prefer him as a striker than midfield but he has done well since leaving us.

What the price of some of our players in this Notts rebuilt team get an EFL award next season? If the new season goes well I am sure we will see some. Agree?????

Notts could potentially see a few more of their players making it into the team of the year for the forthcoming season. I reckon we stand a good chance of securing a few spots but we will have to wait to see.

It’s fantastic to see Macaulay Langstaff and Jodi Jones in the team of the year. It would be wonderful to see a few more players make it next season. Regardless of what happens, I just want all the players to excel for themselves.

Thanks for that @Fan of Big Tone. Apparently an Argentinian B.B.Q is the the type of Grill the Meat is cooked on. 

I would think that the B.B.Q  will be outside, otherwise wouldn't the Smoke set off the Sprinkler System in the Nest?

@Fan of Big Tone I didn't know about the PON emojis either, I've been using my keyboard emojis

19 minutes ago, Robbie said:

@Fan of Big Tone I didn't know about the PON emojis either, I've been using my keyboard emojis

Yeah that’s another option of course but I like the PoN ones. 

It depends on who else is available, but I will add that Tom Crawford had some magical moments with us and during a time when others lack his spirit. Tom would do a decent job in the defensive duties, but he's better at the attacking side IMO. I would happily welcome him back, if the club deemed him as someone that fits us.

He did very well for Hartlepool, I felt surprised when I learned that they had released him.

Notts could do far worse, so it will be interesting but in terms of what Tom Crawford would bring to us. I think he's good enough and would fit various roles we might require. However, he wouldn't be guaranteed to start and that for me, means we need to find players who would make a strong contest for this. I feel Crawford might get overlooked in this scenario, but I do rate him as a player.

I don’t remember him setting the world on fire when he was with us but if he’s improved and has gained more experience then why not, if the recruitment team/data deems him a good fit for us.

@Fan of Big Tone he had spells when he would come on and get chances away, there was a few games after he scored where he was class. i would welcome him back. i was disappointed we let him go because his potential seemed good.

i would welcome him back, but i think the club may be looking elsewhere.

@Wheelbarrow repair man

I don't think Southgate is a good motivator, but if the England team or individual players aren't motivated to represent their Country in the 2nd most predigeous tournament in the World they shouldn't be playing for England full stop.

It may also be a case of some players thinking they are too good to be dropped from the side, & the scourge of player power is not far behind, ready to rear it's ugly head.

Tomorrow the excuses need to be put aside, and the team must put on a strong performance.

Unless this is all a ruse by Gareth Southgate to control who we might get in the knock-out stages and for teams to think we will be push overs. It seems unlikely, but I just want to see England put in the effort. I'll be watching the game with @super_ram and @super_pie.

A change of scenery and some more company might make it easier to watch. ????

England's next match is against Slovenia ranked 57th by FIFA.

Nothing less than an England win will do against Slovenia and if they don't win, no excuses will be accepted.

Agree with you @Wheelbarrow repair man.

I don't know about anyone else and correct me if I have missed it, but I haven't heard anyone from the England camp apologise to the Nation for the performance of the team against Denmark.

And instead of criticising pundits for their negative comments, I want to hear from the England camp a positive message that the team are going to show bags of energy, commitment, work till they drop, press & hassle the opposition, don't give them a minute on the ball.

And when we get the ball back England are quick to attack with pace and movement with either quick short & incisive passing to get the ball up front asap.

None of this passing from side to side and backwards, no standing still with the ball.

And if the first team players can't do that, replace them with the squad players. Nothing less than that will be acceptable against Slovenia.

I point his move to the German league as part of the reason why he's been disappointing: he really doesn't have to do much or move at all. This said, it's not like he's been getting any support. We really haven't been very attacking minded, so that puts some perspective, but I just don't think he should be dropping back. At times, I see no reason but for the majority of the game, well its negative and players know that if they try to get the ball forward there won't be anyone there.

All the comments directed to Harry Kane, and the England team, have been fair and justified in my opinion.

That said, I am still hoping that we can pick up in terms of performance and just put all this behind us. It's just a distraction and something that makes for talking points, but it's not helpful for the players (to be making excuses).

Another point that may or may not have been brought up.

The England players that have been selected are good players, we know that, but many of these players may not be exceptional players, they stand out more because at their clubs, they are surrounded by exceptional international players which makes them look better than they actually are.

We know, Bellingham, Walker, Stones, Foden, Saka, & Kane are very good players but they do play in exceptional club sides surrounded by great players.

When placed in the England side the other England players look to them to lead & more than often it doesn't play out to well.

If those five players are not on their game 100%, it has a negative affect on the other six & the structure of the team suffers.

I've always thought that the England team could do better with a team full of players of equal skill, that are team players with just one or two exceptional players in the side, that the team is built around.

Personally I’m not that fussed he’s gone there, sounds like he is left footed and we now have Bedeau and Cameron on the left, it’s the right side we need to concentrate on now.

If we have signed four or five quality starting XI players by the beginning of July I think we will be well placed. There will still be two months of the window left in order to finalise the squad, but some will depend on Rawlo, Stone and the day tripping shopper finding clubs.

we dont want to overdo the defenders we sign but this could have been another good signing and one that may have secured the defensive additions notts needed. i am not that bothered we did not sign him, but carlisle securing it says a lot about their ambitions to attract good defenders themselves. i trust notts to ensure we sign the right players, so i dont see this as a major loss.

as others have said, we dont know if any talks were held or even if a contract was offered from us.

On 17/06/2024 at 21:33, Pies79 said:

If Notts were in talks with Terell Thomas but lost out to Carlisle, are Notts struggling to attract players due to how they finished in the league last season?

In an interview towards the end of last season Maynard said that it was important to finish well to remain an attractive option during the off season, is this having an impact maybe? Or is it early days and the that the transfer window has only just opened.

I was surprised that he chose Carlisle which will be some of the longest away games in the football league. Notts always have the fact they are East Midlands based, on the M1 which is a selling point for some.

Then again, the cynic in thinks, because the news of Notts' interest in TT was via media speculation, it only underlines the notion that Agents release information about interest, offers and counter offers - speculative or fake - to the media to make serious parties increase offers, bids alongside terms and conditions. 

we could all do with an excellent agent. Like TT.

That's great news. Really pleased that Alan is out of hospital.

Hoping that Alan has a full & complete recovery.

I was talking to my dad about it this past Monday, it wasn't looking good for him. The most recent pictures, you could see he's taken a decline, but I hope he recovers further. It's not nice seeing someone's face go like that and very rarely do you see them put the weight back on at that age.

He's a good pundit, and I have been told in the past he was a very good footballer, but he was well before my time.

I do miss watching him on Match of the Day, mind. He was one of them you may not agree with, but you could see his reasoning and generally he just seemed to love football. Whereas the standard these days it's much poorer, despite the better pay.

I saw the topic and thought the good news was they were not flying back to the chaos at Manchester airport!????

With respect, always liked Alan Hanson ...glad to see him discharged from hospital

You certainly get around @Piethagoram. Lovely pictures, Trentham Gardens is a place I think I ought to visit.

Today I’ve been gardening clearing out weeds, cutting back shrubs etc because it’s brown bin day tomorrow.

The trouble is I’ll suffer for it tomorrow with aching joints etc.

We've got a couple of chicken legs I’m going to bbq later, Mrs. T is prepping a salad to go with it and I’ll have a nice cool drink while I’m cooking.

Who else would s enjoying the sunshine?
 

It's been a lovely day today after a bit of a misty start this morning. 24 Deg C here.

Walked my couple of miles this morning,15 miles for the week. 

No football this afternoon at the Euros. Both matches tonite at 8 pm, Looking forward to watching Scotland to see if they can qualify.

Helped the wife with a bit of housework. Trying to do my bit since retiring.

During this election watching no TV news channels or election broadcasts, sometimes there are better things to do.

@Robbie

I know what you mean about  helping  out the Trouble and Strife. I was once asked if I was a Considerate Lover.

Oh Yes I Always Lift My Feet When She's Hoovering.

i have never heard of him but reading his wiki, hes 23 and does not have many starts to his name. hes certainly an unknown to me, but i do wish burton well. forests academy is pretty decent, so i am sure he will be capable.

i think we can all see it when they have played, hope that we can start to silence the doubters and improve with stronger performances. this is a funny tweet tho. ????

@Wheelbarrow repair man

Found this on Sam's Wiki page and I quote.

"Some analysts have labelled Allardyce a long ball manager, though he has disputed this perception as "totally & utterly wrong." He takes a modern technology & statistics-centred approach to tactics & coaching & has been praised for his organisational & man-management skills".

I think he has learned a lot over his 33 years of Football management and people do change.

I can remember being upset when Warnock left Notts, I was upset when Big Sam left, the same feeling when Luke left, I'm not quite over Luke leaving yet, but I will be sooner, rather than later.

All three are legends as far as I'm concerned.

I would also like to thank all PON members who have contributed with different opinions on this subject.

We may see things differently on occasions but we always respect everyone else's view. That's what makes our community special.

@Robbie

This is what I mean an awful lot of Fans are under the I illusion that Managers such as Big Sam and Neil Warnock despite their Massive experience  at  Club Management level, Can Not Adopt to the Modern Game. Really? The Strange thing is when a Club is in Trouble and face Relegation, it's this type of Manager/Head Coach they turn to and once they achieve Safety, they're usually Let Go.

And Fans Moan they're only in it for the Money, regardless of them Saving their Club from Going Down. If they're offered a good wage then they are going to take up the Offer after all if you're Good At Something Never Do It For Free.  Look at David Moyes saves West Ham from the drop, gets the Hammers regular top Half Finishes in the Premier League, qualifies for Europe three seasons in succession, Wins West Ham a Trophy for the first time in 43 years and he's Sacked. Why? They don't like the way his Team Play Football. The Mind Boggles. Apologies for going slightly off Topic.

i still dont see him being suited to wales, that is nothing against his management style but if he is to return to management. he needs to find a league team that he can build and stick around with. did he takeover mark hughes at blackburn? if i am right he did okay with them but he has never come close to repeating his success at bolton.

@Piethagoram I think we all know the answer to that! I don't think any of them would even know where Barrow is.

13 hours ago, Wheelbarrow repair man said:

 

Newfoundland and Labrador possibly couldn't Afford to Sponsor a Premier League or Championship Side. Or they may have been Sold the Story that like Wrexham they are Team on the Up.

there are better teams in the national league they could sponsor, maybe even league one/two.

If Newfoundland & Labrador have sponsored Barrow good luck to Barrow. It is a good thing that some money is going to a club that needs it, and it gets Barrow some publicity too.

California or Texas can come sponsor Notts front of shirt if they want  for several million pounds, I wouldn't say no 

I remember when Dave signed for Derby. I think Cloughie built the team around him and got Dave to play as sweeper. Funny that today they expect the goalie to do that????

Dave went to Swindon after his Derby days for a year.

14 minutes ago, Robbie said:

@super_ram Did Dave Mackay have a nickname. Was it Big Dave?

@Robbie , I'm not aware of a nickname that stuck(apart from miracle man after breaking his leg twice) I just remember him as 'Mighty Mac)

@super_ram

One of the most Vivid things I remember about Dave Mackay was that photo of him and Billy Bremner, where Dave's got Bremner by the front of his shirt and is almost lifting him off the Ground in Shear Anger. What had happened Dave wasn't long back after Breaking a Leg and Bremner had Fouled him, and Dave didn't like it which was understandable remembering the Dirty Leeds Side of the 1970's.

Made me laugh that Forest spend all season moaning about VAR decisions and the vote in favour of keeping it. 

We had the first big VAR controversy in EURO 24 in a group match between Netherlands and France last night when the Netherlands had a goal disallowed because, the Netherlands player, who was clearly in an offside position, was deemed to have interfered with the French goalkeeper trying to make a save from a shot by a Netherlands player.

The controversy was because there was disagreement whether the Netherlands player was actually interfering with the movement of the French goalkeeper or not.

All the pundits at the BBC post match analysis thought that a goal should have been awarded because the player didn't appear on the replays to be close enough to be interfering with the French goalkeeper's movement.

The other controversy was the time it took the British VAR Referee's assistant to make the decision. It was about four minutes.

The point to all of this, if there had been no VAR, the Linesman would have put his flag up for offside, the online Ref would have made an instant decision, and that would have been the end of it. 

But with VAR, the goal is scored, the team and crowd celebrate, then the Linesman put the flag up then it goes to VAR.

Then VAR analyse it but there is no information or what the VAR team & the Ref are discussing for the players or the spectators.

That is the reason most critics like myself dislike VAR. Players & fans celebrate a goal, then 4 minutes later it is ruled out and players and spectators don't know why. This is not what football is all about.

Also, Ref's should have a microphone connected to the PA system so that players and spectators can be kept in the loop regarding contentious decisions.

VAR disallowed a Lukaku goal due to this fine margin, a toe end.

Is this decision to disallow the Lukaku goal the right decision or is it the wrong decision?

I think the decision to call offside is wrong because the naked eye could never determine whether Lukaku was offside or not.

And that is just the point. The offside law was never meant to be judged in this way by freezing frames like this.

It was meant to be judged by the naked eye of a linesman in true time.

In my opinion, we didn’t really give him ample opportunity to progress from his loan periods. It’s challenging for young players, as they are still in the learning phase. Their improvement largely depends on the team they play with and their personal experiences. Nonetheless, I wish him the best of luck.

i hope he settles down for hereford because his wiki seems to be full of moves, which is something i dont think helps players. hes now old enough to do well given the time and if he settles. he should do just fine, if he wants to play higher he needs to work for it.

Another player who was signed by the Magpies, but hardly played for the First team, being Loaned out Season after Season so never got the Chance to show his abilities, then was realised by the Club at the end of his Contract. That seems to be the Lot of many Academy Players at Notts repeatedly Loaned out season following season, not given much of a chance to play first team Football, then moved on once their contract is up.

Despite the Fact that the Head of Recruitment insists that he wants players in the Notts First XI who have come through the Academy. Unless he gets his chance this season Tiernan Brookes may be another player on his way, once his contract ends. 

good luck to him, the national league south is a difficult league to escape from but that applies for the north and main division. i just hope he enjoys his time there and does well. i always thought he was okay at notts, nothing amazing but reliable enough.

At present, England appears to be a team that slowly builds momentum, relying on things going right to play with confidence. This is surprising given the talent within the squad, but talent alone doesn’t necessarily create a great team. I believe some players are getting caught up in their own hype, yet they fail to perform on the international stage. This leads me to think they are overrated by a significant portion of our fans.

On paper, we should be dominating the group and we certainly have some real talent. It’s hard to understand why this squad wouldn’t be expected to be in contention for the Euros, but their current style of play makes it difficult to see that happening. I don’t think it’s fair to place all the blame on Gareth Southgate. Some are quick to blame the manager at the expense of the players. Once the players step onto the pitch, they should be capable enough to figure out their opposition. Tactics are more of a guideline, so it’s harsh to blame Southgate entirely.

What I would like to see from Southgate is a starting squad where players are playing in their strongest roles. Perhaps someone like Jude Bellingham could drop back and allow someone else to play further up the pitch. Phil Foden might benefit from this switch, but our real strength lies in our wingers. Bukayo Saka seems to focus more on his frustration with being fouled than on getting on with the game. He has the ability to take on players, but so far he has repeatedly made poor decisions when attempting this. He has been very disappointing, as he doesn’t link well with anyone on that side of the pitch. I would be curious to see if he could link up with Trent Alexander Arnold, who our fans seem to be experts on, but who does perform better out wide.

@CliftonMagpie

No Leadership On Or  Off The Pitch.

@CliftonMagpie I agree with much of what you have said, however I don't agree regarding Southgate.

Southgate is the Manager, he picks the players, he also has to take responsibility for shape, style, tactics and how the team is playing.

Southgate has had plenty of time to know who is strongest side is, but I don't believe he does know even at this stage of the tournament.

The buck has to stop with the Manager and if he cannot get the performance out of such a talented squad like he has here, then it is very fair for the press and the fans to question his tram selection and tactics.

yes, i think so. i think goalkeeper coaches dont get noticed as much as others but even then its a fair point to highlight the academy ones. they spend so much time nurturing talent. years and years with the same players from a young age until some sign schooler deals or even first year pros. i am thankful the reedtz have invested properly in all of our coaching team.

I hadn't appreciated that our new GK coach, coached at Rochdale when they were promoted to EFL1

https://www.nottscountyfc.co.uk/news/2024/june/steve-collis-appointment-050624/

I continue to feel a sense of disappointment for Tom Weal. He appeared to be quite competent in his role, and it’s not his fault that he couldn’t turn around Aidan Stone’s fortunes. I believe that goalkeeping coaches often don’t receive the recognition they deserve, mainly because their role lacks the glamour associated with other positions. However, their contribution is just as crucial.

i barely remember him, but he was one of those signings that never looked ready to be a part of a first team sqaud imo. i am not surprised he fell so far.

If you weren’t observant, you might have overlooked him. I believe there was a fair amount of buzz about him from the club during the Trew era, if my memory serves me correctly. I can’t quite recall his performance, but according to his Wikipedia page, it appears his career has been on a decline since then.

https://www.nottscountyfc.co.uk/news/2013/february/leicester-frontman-arrives-on-loan/

https://www.nottscountyfc.co.uk/news/2013/february/blyth-up-for-the-challenge/

good experienced coach, i was not aware keith downing had played for us until i read one of the tweets from pon about him. he seems to have had a wealth of experience, it makes me wonder why he has not tried to manage a team.

I’m not well-acquainted with him, apart from his involvement with the England team. I believe it was the U19s where I saw a video of him with the “future” England players a while back. A move to Blackburn seems like a positive step for his coaching career.

Hello, @Thomas Cotton. Welcome! I wish you all the best and hope to see you join in.

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