1 hour ago, Chris said:

Hopefully, the league cup is worth taking seriously, but we seem to take the ELF trophy more seriously in recent years. Just like the FA Cup is well worth taking seriously, and not choosing to drop out of it.

Agreed, we looked very good.

We didn't look the same when we played them in this after that, Shrewsbury looked much better, but we didn't give a very good account of ourselves.

Chris, the cup game at the San Sirrel, we gifted them. Their striker who got a hat trick hardly scored for them that season

A good goal for Sanderson for us, we were unlucky not to get another

By taking the Cups seriously, I mean that we should play our strongest squad, not necessarily our strongest team. 

That's probably one of the reasons Stuart wanted to put together a bigger stronger squad to be able to rest some players on occasionally even for the League matches.

Notts can still put some of our star players on the substitutes bench for cup games in the early rounds, & Notts should still be very competitive with a good large squad.

It should be an interesting match. It will be intriguing to see how the two teams stack up against each other a season later. If anything, it’s going to be a game from which we can learn valuable lessons.

The act of throwing bottles is disgraceful. It’s acceptable to voice your opinions or chant them, but there’s no justification for hurling objects or being offensive.

its all just disappointing isnt it? i think its poor behaviour on the england fans but our media is just terrible for spinning negative stories. its a joke which is not funny.

Minority spoil it for the majority, but sadly that’s the case for everything these days. I don’t think anyone would dispute that a small number of the fans from all nations who have gone are d’heads who will cause trouble and get into fights but the majority will just be there to support their team. I guess writing a piece about 90% of the fans just going to watch the football and behaving is what you’d expect so it's kind of pointless to do. But I get that it would be nice for these papers to report the good things about the fan experience too.

I believe we were previously interested in Rod McDonald a few years ago, but I am not sure if that was serious. He's a good player, comfortable on the ball and copes with pressure. I am very pleased we have signed him, as he doesn't seem to have aged yet and should have a few good seasons left in him.

Yes, he's only 32-years-old, but I have seen some fans concerned about that and I don't think it's an issue. He's a bright and alert defender, who should help us improve defensively.

@Chris

If Rod can do a job for Notts for a couple of seasons and help Notts to get promotion, it will be money well spent. 

I just believe that Rod is just the kind of player we needed. If it is true, that he is calm on the ball that's exactly what we need, especially after what we saw last season.

If Notts can stem the goals against by around 35 goals, compared to last season, Notts are promoted.

He appears to be a sturdy addition to the team. Notts are constructing what seems to be a very equitable and balanced side. The defensive reinforcements, such as Rod McDonald, are greatly appreciated.

30 minutes ago, Chris said:

@Robbie it used to be a yearly habit of watching the Grand National, we used to have a friendly bet within the family and on occasions a bet would be placed, but I have to admit, I lost interest. It's the same with the University Boat Race. Habits change; information isn't stored the same. Technology has a lot to do with it IMO.

I see what you mean Chris.

I can remember those iconic thoroughbred horses, from the 70s like Mill Reef,  Brigadier Gerrard, and Nijinsky, I still remember that the Brigadier won 17 out of 18 major races and his only defeat came from another great, Roberto.

I can't name a modern horse at all now. 

@Piethagoram thanks for sharing that.  

Hayley Turner, we take pride in you. Your name will be etched in our memories. You are one of our own!

@liampiepurchased

I hope the games streamed, as this would be a nice touch. I don't have a passport (as said elsewhere) but I think it's a fun fixture that brings a different friendly to those who can make the trip.

Flights sorted, travelling out through the Netherlands as flights were much cheaper

im not really interested in this competition, but i hope we field some of the players who need game time in the matches. it would be a good way to see who deserves a shot in league games. 

Field a decent enough squad, but give Tiernan Brooks the chance to start and many of our younger players. Yet don't just throw them in with fringe players; give some of the first team candidates a chance to pass on their experience. I am not that bothered about the EFL trophy, but I do see it as a chance to give game minutes.

With a larger squad, we can afford to do it this time round.

Dum Dum Diddle Dum Diddle Dum.

Now We All Know Dolly's had Many Country Hits

But I Don't Care For Her Music, I'd Rather Look At Her

Dum Dum Diddle Dum Diddle Dum.

I would be astonished if folks from Wrexham genuinely had an interest in Dolly Parton. I barely recognise her myself. I’m aware she’s a country singer, but her current relevance seems rather minimal. Unless Wrexham boasts a large number of fans who are, let’s say, seasoned gentlemen, I doubt they would be particularly concerned.

If @Dry Nelson Ray had got Dolly Parton over for our game last season, I am 100% sure @super_ram would have 'loved' to join me. Although I didn't get tickets unfortunately, it remains a ground that I haven't yet visited.

Very funny video, Dolly at times looks unsure how to respond. ????

I’m not particularly keen on spending a substantial amount of money for a single match outside England. I prefer to stick to local friendly matches.

i think it would be a fun game to attend, i am not sure about flying but how else will i be able to get there? its not like i have no been in a plane before. im 50/50 so far.

It would be a super experience, sadly I can't make it as I'm already away that weekend. Football overseas is a wonderful adventure.

clubs need to recruit within their means but try to sign the best players they can afford, i think andy holt needs to try to replicate the squad that did take them up and avoid complaining about the funds teams use. he wont stop clubs from having higher funds or using more.

15 hours ago, Chris said:

Some interesting comments, such as the amount of money teams in the National League are paying, but I just find Andy Holt to be someone who's never happy any more. He's always got something negative to say, usually towards things that don't concern him. He's done well as a chairman and for Accrington, those are things he deserves credit for. When they got promoted to League One, he seemed a much more interesting person.

I just find his complaints about football as an industry and as a competition to be double-negative. If he hates it so much, I wished he would get out of it or quit complaining. However, it's the thing which seems to make him most relevant, and he likes that.

He needs to be careful what he says about when things go wrong, as Accrington seem to be taking steps back and could find themselves in the National League themselves in the next 3 years. Yet, that will be down to their budget, not the recruitment according to him.

Sorry to disagree @Chris I always find Andy Holt's musings as a breath of fresh air, a sensible voice in the finances of football. He always explains the situation of the problems the smaller clubs face. Football finance expert Kieran Maguire recently mentioned average losses in EFL1 were close to £5m. Small teams were always going to find it difficult on promotion to EFL1

https://www.deloitte.com/uk/en/services/financial-advisory/research/annual-review-of-football-finance-football-league-clubs.html

Edit: If you strip our Derby's losses, EFL1 clubs losing around £4m a season

No need to be sorry, due to disagreeing @Piethagoram.

I value your opinion, I do think Andy Holt is a two-sided coin.

Until more information is available, it’s all conjecture. I haven’t come across any news reports linking him to Notts. He might be in discussions with the club, but it’s common for players to post pictures like that. It seems harmless enough to me, but who can tell? Things might be unfolding, we just have to be patient and see.

The Photo shows Will Evans at Notts County. He's Invisible  then? What an Asset a Striker you can't see, he could play havoc with opponents defences. If you can't see him, you can't mark him, then again if your Team Mates can't see you ? Ah Well maybe Not such a Good Signing.

Interesting that he still has a year to run on his contract, so he would cost Notts probably up to 500K. Why buy him when we have the best striker in the league?

Nah, it wouldn't make sense. 

All Right, All Right Calm Down Calm Down.  We a had Scouser  Mick who worked with Us  and two Blokes got into a Bit of  an Argy Bargy and He said that phrase (without realizing He'd said It.) Everybody in Ear Shot just Collapsed into Gales of Laughter, Even the two Blokes forgot their Argument. No Work was Done for a Full 20 minutes, even the Team Leader who came round to see what all the Noise was about , joined in with the Laughter while Mick just stood there wondering was Hell was up with Everybody. Until somebody managed to Stop Laughing Long Enough to tell him what he'd said.

Have we stopped laughing yet?

Here's a classic clip from the Goodies. Used to have me & my Dad in stitches.

Laughter Is The Best Medicine. Nobody Can Deny That.

@Chris

Thanks for the Documentary Chris, I'd not seen it before. Despite it being Hard to watch in Certain Places, when listening to Jeff's Daughter Dawn at the start in particular , bought back memories of my Mum, I'm Glad I watched it and I appreciate the Up Load.

I do believe that heading the football, especially back in the days when the ball was made of pure leather and became really heavy when it was soaking wet, does have an impact on ex-footballers later on in life especially leading to issues like Dementia. 

Football's of today are nothing like they were but even despite this, there is still a danger that it could have an impact on the brain. It just depends on how long before it takes effect, especially if you're continually heading the ball. Irrelevant of how lightweight the ball is, it's about the impact. In the images of Jeff Astle from a post above you can see how much impact there is.

The only thing that can really be done is something they've slowly started integrating and that is to limit heading in training. Matchday scenarios can't be helped as it is part and parcel of the game, unless they want to do something drastic like go 5-a-side rules and stop the ball going above head height. Though I do agree in doing as much as possibly to stop children heading the ball. 

I don't think it's right to sue anyone no matter how much you believe in it being the root cause. Even if it was proven to be the case, in those days there wasn't much in terms of assessing the dangers of heading the football as much as there is in today's world. Medical science has come a long way. 

So many people are attempting to take legal action over issues that weren’t known at the time. I think Joe Kinnear’s daughter may struggle to prove that people knew injuries would lead to Joe’s death. Where does this insanity end? It reminds me of people trying to sue American gun manufacturers because of deaths caused by their use.

EFL2 is a tough league, Stockport and Wrexham budgets effectively bought promotion ( sorry @Dry Nelson Ray)

I think Chesterfield will not find it easy. 

I'm not a betting man, but with the calibre of the the players that Notts have recruited, & the squad they are putting together, I believe it would be a reasonable bet for Notts to get automatic promotion this season.

Given that we've strengthened an area which was our weak link last season and had an impact on our downfall, 14/1 may well be worth a punt. 

@menzinho absolutely agree. If England can't be motivated by this very lucky draw, they can't get motivated over anything.

So far it's been a good tournament.

VAR has proven during this tournament so far that it does have a place in the game. It's been quick and efficient and fans have been kept in the loop as to what's going on. The only exception with this was, shockingly, when English referees were involved in the game between France and Netherlands. The only time in which VAR took an age to come to a decision, a decision that I still feel was wrong, and disallow Xavi Simons goal.

Shock of the group stage has got to be Georgia beating Portugal. 

The only 2 teams that have impressed me throughout the group stage has been Spain and Austria. Spain have got to be deemed favourites now and Austria the dark horses.

France and England, both the favourites going in to the tournament, haven't backed up that favourites tag. 

I still feel like they need to abolish the whole best 3rd place teams go through. A few of the final group games were a bit of a bore because teams didn't want to risk anything, sat back and played for the draw as that was all that's needed to finish 3rd. It takes away the jeopardy. UEFA should have either kept it at 16 teams or made it 32 like the World Cup.

there is going to be quite a few changes, i want to wait to see what is updated but i will back on the road home and away supporting notts.

I don't usually worry about who we are drawn against, it doesn't make much of a difference to me because we have to play those teams at stages, but I do understand how difficult opening games can be. If you get a run of rough teams, it can make things difficult, but I believe with our squad. Tranmere would be a good game to start early.

There's going to be changes, hopefully, ones which make more sense but this year, I am not fussed. I just want to get back to Meadow Lane, so Fleetwood and Grimsby at home are two fixtures I am looking forward to.

To be honest the new fixture list has never interested me, We know we will be playing 6 different sides this season compared with the last one.

At the end of the day we've got 46 league games and we probably need to win a minimum of 27 of them with 10 draws to be sure of  promotion.

That's more or less what Stockport did last season, and they were Champions.

I came across a piece of information, possibly on Twitter, that Curtis Edwards had a stint with Woking while he was between clubs and looking for a league team. It’s likely that Ian Burchnall recommended him to Michael Doyle, or perhaps Edwards consulted with Burchnall who then suggested Doyle. Regardless, it’s all come full circle now and he’s here with us. At first glance, he seems more like a coach or fitness trainer than a footballer, but I’m not one to judge. It was just an initial impression when I saw his photo. I’m confident he’ll prove to be a quality addition.

I know you can't judge anyone by their appearance alone but I agree the main photo of him doesn't make him look particularly imposing. If you asked 100 people what he does and gave them the choice of IT Technician and Professional Footballer, I can see one getting a lot more votes!

He'll probably turn out to be one of the fittest players next season and be able to run for days!

He reminds me of a footballer from the late 90s to early 00s, but that's not a bad thing. Everyone says 'It's a man's game' when you see young players who fit the characteristics of players like Ed Francis and Will Patching (just as examples) but sometimes appearances isn't everything.

I have no doubt that Curtis Edwards has the ability as a footballer to make a significant impact at Notts.

Everything I know and have read tick the right boxes, so I am encouraged by the arrival of him and I think he fits to what we need. I am looking forward to seeing him on the pitch.

The club conducted a commendable interview with Matt Palmer. He seems eager to return, even though it might take some time. However, he should be ready by the start of the season. I’m excited to see him don the Notts shirt again.

Wouldn’t it be fantastic to have a team filled with players like Matt Palmer? It’s great to see him back, focusing on his fitness and working towards rejoining the starting line-up. He exudes quality, so I’m eager to see Palmer back in the squad on match days.

I've always been a big fan of Matt Palmer's. When we signed him I was over the moon because I knew what sort of quality he would bring. It surprised me that he stepped down to the National League to join us, especially when he was still only like, what 26-years-old? He really could have joined a League One/Two team and found himself back higher up the football pyramid quite easily.

I also genuinely believe he arrived here because he liked the project which was being built and could see Notts creating a team where he would thrive and most importantly enjoy his football. He's like that as a player, when he enjoys his football nothing can unsettle him or put him off his game. I don't remotely think he joined us because we offered the best wages, as that's not the type of person he seems to be. Having him back will be a massive boost to our squad, because players not only know what he brings but what to expect from him when he is in the team.

There's a reason why he's always in the squad selection on match days, and it's not just because he's consistent or hard-working.

@Chris @Wheelbarrow repair man

I just don't think that the excuse of parachute payments as a lifeline for clubs being relegated stands at all.

Parachute payments clearly stifles competition in the lower league and encourages the phenomenon of yo yo clubs. We've seen it in the Championship year after year.

It is simply not fair and that fact should override any justification for keeping parachute payments.

Football needs fixing and the first priority is to make football more exciting and less predictable.

That means stopping Parachute Payments & putting a cap on transfers and players wages.

It is a lifeline, but not for every club.

It offers the majority of teams financial stability, with the modern game the way it is - it isn't uncommon for owners to sell up (or try) leaving the club in difficult circumstances. In our own case, without the payments to ourselves, our first season in the National League could have been much harder.

The funds helped the club operate between Alan Hardy's exit and the arrival of the Reedtz brothers who acted quickly, but the parachute payments meant we were able to do stuff before. Against his credit, Neal Ardley worked tirelessly to keep Notts in a good position, and it's something that tends to be overlooked due to him being the manager who unfortunately was at the helm when we got relegated. Alan Hardy took Notts down, him, along with Kevin Nolan and Harry 'useless' Kewell.

Clubs need to take into consideration what their finances might look like without the parachute payments, making sure players wages are affordable. Yet, a lot rely on being able to afford their talent. In some cases, players would want to move on due to a large drop in wages. Other than them wanting to return to their previous playing level, due to chasing the international dream, better wages etc.

Numerous teams have been saved from administration due to the induction of the parachute payments, which was part of their intended design.

However, I believe it's three more times likely that teams who receive them end up being promoted back the following season.

We don't know how this number would change if abolished, nor how many teams may find themselves in Bury's situation. Personally, I think football should be fairer, but the removal of it could cause further implications to our game.

Not a fan of parachute payments, it should absolutely be abolished. 

As it has been mentioned, it gives teams an unfair advantage when getting relegated which is why we see so many teams become Yo-Yo clubs. They're too good for the Championship but not good enough for the Premier League.

Parachute payments also mean that clubs spend outside of their means which then results in them going into administration. Now more than ever clubs are being more cautious about what they spend due to implications of over spending due to their being a crack down on losses, ffp etc. 

Parachute payments don't last forever so if clubs spend outside their means but don't get promoted and stay where they are or even get relegated, finances become a real issue. 

Lunch

Notts are 293/1

Slater 123 n/o

Stone 53 n/o

Tea

Notts are 396/2

Slater is 159 n/o

Young is 49 n/o

Stone the only man out today, was out for 63.

Looks like the game is going to end in a draw.

It's a very benign pitch, a batsmen's paradise.

The Match is drawn.

Notts finish on 425 for 2

Slater 168 n/o

Young 66 n/o

13 bonus points for Notts 

It's saddening to learn about Frank Duckworth, I can't say I am into cricket at all but I appreciate people within the sports.

rest in peace, frank duckworth.

Gareth Southgate was upbeat about England's performance against Slovenia after the match.

Have you consulted a doctor? It’s crucial not to underestimate the significance of regular health check-ups. The Notts community genuinely cares about your well-being, so please reassure me that you’ve sought professional advice. While anxiety is undoubtedly serious, I hope the issue isn’t more concerning.

Imagine, if you will, that I donned a doctor’s coat (alas, it’s purely imaginary). In my whimsical office, adorned with rubber chickens and a stethoscope that plays jazz tunes, I’d address your health concerns with utmost seriousness.  

I recommend visiting your GP first. They can assess your situation, and if it seems more serious, then consider going to A&E. Speaking to a doctor is essential, as going directly to the hospital might be unnecessary if it’s related to anxiety.

@ARLukomski Have you visited the doctor for a check-up?

Please disregard my light-hearted humour. I’m genuinely worried about you, as are many in the PON community. I hope you start feeling better soon!

Selling Macca wouldn't make any sense at all now, & as I have said before, you don't sell arguably the best player of your team to a Manager who ran out on Notts & left with Notts having existing defensive problems, then causing so much disruption that Notts failed to make the playoffs 

Doesn't anyone feel that when Notts were holding negotiations with these new players that they subsequently signed, that those players would ask the question about the elite players futures, and that Notts would have assured them that no essential players were going to be sold in the short term?

Some of those players we've signed would have come because of the players we have, if Notts then weaken the team by selling Macca or Jodi, I don't think that would go down well.

Even the BEEB have picked up on this Topic. Of course it's all On Line Talk according to them. But when Luke Williams was questioned about it He said 

That's a Different Question. I think it should have Read That's a Difficult Question.

But the article Ends On A Positive Note For Notts Fans. Macca said It would Take Something Incredible For Him To Leave The Lane.

@Robbie You have some Excellent Points There Buddy.

I sincerely doubt there’s any genuine interest. If there were, I’d expect more than just Swansea City showing interest in him. Numerous teams would likely enquire about Macaulay Langstaff, given his striking abilities. If teams like Peterborough, Lincoln City, Blackburn, and Plymouth Argyle were also mentioned, then I’d be more inclined to believe there’s substance to it. As it stands, it’s only Swansea City and a few casual remarks made when Luke Williams first took over.

i did not rate him, i thought he looked lost on the pitch and never really did much with his time i felt frustrated because we could have given the game time to someone else who might have been productive. i hope hes improved a lot since his days here.

He came with the promise of being very good but didn't do much. Despite the hype of him being Liverpool's academy captain, we didn't see much leadership from him. However, he must have improved.

Virtue was unnoticeable with us, leaving no significant impact. To me, he seemed like a young player who needed to move down the football pyramid. Alternatively, he might have thought he was above our level. Although he did some positive things, his performances were not sufficient.

Isn’t it a misuse of funds? Are they so desperate to sign a goalkeeper that they’re essentially offering him a free holiday? It’s odd. If Notts did this, I’d be disheartened by the squandered fees involved.

18 hours ago, Fan of Big Tone said:

Perhaps he fancied a trip to Spain. 

For free? I don't blame him. I hope Chesterfield didn't take him out of their own budget. ????

14 hours ago, CliftonMagpie said:

Isn’t it a misuse of funds? Are they so desperate to sign a goalkeeper that they’re essentially offering him a free holiday? It’s odd. If Notts did this, I’d be disheartened by the squandered fees involved.

I would dislike Notts doing a similar thing, even if it was an ex-well known Premier League keeper, it could be Joe Hart for all I care - it's not something I think makes financial sense. If they have done it to stop him going on trials elsewhere, or just to make sure he signs for them then it's even weirder.

chesterfield are a weird club, they probably will have it as part of his signing on fee.

one free holiday to spain...