@Robbie @Chris

May I agree with your sentiments on deportation, we can't. He is a British citizen having been born in Gibraltar

I believe this is a matter that requires careful consideration. Being a British citizen shouldn’t automatically grant the right to remain in our country, especially when serious crimes have been committed. His citizenship could be revoked, but it might depend on whether he emerges as a reformed individual. I’m all for offering someone a second chance. He might have been under pressure, leading to a series of unfortunate events. If he manages to lead a better life upon release, then it’s acceptable. Otherwise, we shouldn’t have to tolerate his presence in the UK.

@Joshua Just think we can solve our overcrowded prison system at a stroke! Just deport everyone of them????  Australia was the choice in bygone days!

However under the law:

"It is important to note that British Citizenship can be removed from a person born in the UK or outside the UK, but only if they hold citizenship of another country – i.e. it can only be revoked where a person would not be left “stateless”.

Hello, welcome @Bertinez. PON is a good site.

Welcome @Bertinez to PON, hope to see you join in with the discussions here.

Hello there! Welcome to the Pride of Nottingham. It’s fantastic to have you with us @Bertinez.

We’re a friendly bunch here, always ready to chat about our beloved Notts County. Don’t hesitate to join in the discussions. Looking forward to getting to know you better. Cheers!

i watched something where it said that manchester united needed more stewards, i think this was a few years ago and in a documentary. it highlighted the staff quite well, with people talking about sir alex ferguson and other things before the current owners arrived. what i find worrying is they probably wont stop spending silly fees.

meanwhile regular people relying on their jobs to pay the bills, wont be able to have the luxury of retaining their jobs.

How does letting go of canteen staff and other employees help Manchester United allocate more funds for their first team? The weekly wages of their lowest-paid player could likely cover a month’s salary for all these workers.

it shows some transfer clauses can be smart, unlike some of the ones we have placed on players in the past who have been signed for free. i hated when we used to do that and justify a gamble in return that the club would not release the player in order not to pay us a fee.

Larry the Cat for Prime Minister! ????

On 01/07/2024 at 16:22, Chris said:

Larry the Cat for Prime Minister! ????

I'll second that one @Chris & he should be appointed for the next five years too, because he'd do a much better job than the ???? leaving on Friday, & the ???? who's odds on to replace him.

@liampie

I see your point and I agree with you that lower teams should be given good fees. Unfortunately bigger clubs, who have the money at their disposal, take advantage of lower league clubs need for money that's why they often get players cheaper than they perhaps should. They could always negotiate a deal and some clubs manage to secure this like I believe Birmingham got handed a fee due to Jude Bellingham winning the Champions League with Real Madrid. However, negotiating a deal could lead to a bigger club pulling out of the deal which means that money that was needed by the lower club they won't be able to get. 

Gary Lineker has told a story about his transfer to Everton many times on his podcasts. Clubs unable to agree a fee would have to go to a tribunal and each manager would have to make a case of what they believe is a fair value for a player. Howard Kendall, manager of Everton at the time, said that Lineker wasn't as good as they made out and he'd probably sit on the bench most of the time. Because of this Everton paid a lower price than it should have been. Afterwards Lineker started doubting his move to which Kendall reassured him that he was gonna be his main striker and he only said all that to pay a lower fee. 

Gary Linekar was signed to replace Andy Gray, who was a much loved figure at Everton. Gray left to re-sign for Aston Villa and in that same season, he arrived at Meadow Lane on loan. Colin Harvey played a big role in Everton paying £800,000 to Leicester City, which was a considerable fee for him.

Howard Kendall backed Linekar, who had already scored 15 goals before Christmas.

The Everton fans, however, didn't take to him until he had scored against Manchester United and Sheffield Wednesday later in the season. Even at £300,000, it wouldn't have been a bad deal. The tribunal did make it fairer, as the fee Barcelona paid was somewhat inflated by having done well at two clubs.

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/gary-lineker-howard-kendall-everton-19192018

Any tribunal decision on a youngsters fee should be a fair fee, clubs who are unhappy that a player goes on to be sold at a higher profit - sometimes don't take into consideration that players can only get better with time, facilities, better coaches and players.

Another big point here is that the big clubs are taking a lot of the young talent even though they have no intention of playing them.

These young footballers are then farmed off to the lower divisions as loanees to make money from them.

Young players should be allowed to improve, as they used to do in the past, with the clubs where they learned their trade & would get lots of football time.

Players like David Needham & Brian Kilcline, who did their apprenticeship with Notts and went on to win Silverware with Forest (Needham) and Coventry (Kilcline).

its in line with most clubs our size and have ambitions just like us. it makes it more value to renew and get the best price, do fans who pay the higher amount get a chance to make it cheaper next season? i dont understand completely how the early bird deal works at notts. its a bit confusing and my worry is that the loyalty scheme might just add further headaches.

i went to every game last season home and away, so i think it will effect me.

i do feel the family club feel might fall wayward with these prices as not many families who are not season ticket holders could justify so much money being spent on a football game when the cost of living is still high itself.

Offering a membership is a good incentive to get people to attend games on a more regular basis. As someone who isn't able to attend many games, the price doesn't put me off I think given how rising costs have gone elsewhere, it's still an OK price to pay considering I'll only at best be able to make a handful of games per season.

I don’t think the scheme is a bad thing as it does at least offer fans who go regularly a chance to save a bit, I agree it’s pretty pointless for the casual fans though not only will they lose money but these are ones who’ll take more a financial hit now. It could potentially deter last minute purchases, I guess the attendances over the season will show us if it's been a success or not.

I get that the club can justify the price hike, by saying it brings us in-line with the other clubs. But just because everyone does something, it doesn’t mean it’s always right… We could’ve gone the other way and been a tad cheaper. Create a big marketing campaign about Notts being one of the cheapest places to watch league football. It would’ve been an easy sell, you can just brag and even have a little dig at Forest, especially given what’s going on with their prices hikes. It’s mad they have to pay £99 for a membership to get guaranteed access for a home ticket and you don’t even get a discount on that!

I think Vic Centre is a good location for a shopping centre that has a bus stop and car park. I think it would be more busy than it is now if there was a train station. The surrounding area is a nightmare at times to get out of by transport.

I'm glad they went with it, though I do at times think about the other station(s) thanks to people on here.

Nottingham Train Station always amazed me, until they put the glass frontage in, and now I think it's been ruined. I can remember my grandfather picking @super_ram as the taxi's waited inside.

nottingham sometimes feels like certain parts could have been chosen better, but i think the current train station is fine because its near to things that makes sense.

i cant imagine vic centre being anything different.

I remember as a boy going to Victoria and Midland Stations with my Dad to look at the Steam Locomotives.

You could buy a Platform ticket then and stay as long as you liked Train spotting.

I can remember being so excited to see the trains. Would have loved a mobile phone to take loads of photos. 

When you think about how much it costs to lay a mile of track nowadays, and they tore up thousands of miles of track after Beeching, you do wonder how they could have made such a massive mistake closing down all those lines.

its a good step up and i think hes a good player, i hope he transitions well. he should get more time to play he way he likes in league one.

It's a good opportunity for Ed. He had a great season for Gateshead & the Gateshead supporters were sorry to see him go.

It's a big step up but I'm sure Ed will excel at his new Club & I wish him luck for the new season.

Finally, Meadow Lane gets the attention it needed! Can't wait to see the new pitch in action.

it makes me even more prouder to be a notts fan, its truly stunning and all the work that has gone into it, i very much appreciate it.

Notts might need to adopt a personalised approach with their cups, similar to what Starbucks and Costa do. This could involve intentionally writing incorrect names on people’s cups. It’s a quirky practice that adds a touch of humour and individuality to each cup.

I wouldn't worry about the floor, I doubt they've fitted a carpet ????

Maybe I'm just tight, but when a goal is scored the first thing I do is make sure my precious pint is safe and sound! 

9 minutes ago, DangerousSausage said:

Maybe I'm just tight, but when a goal is scored the first thing I do is make sure my precious pint is safe and sound! 

Not tight @DangerousSausage but sensible definitely. ????

Day 4.

Notts have eliminated the deficit on first innings and are now building a lead.

Clarke has his century helping Notts to 252/4, Notts now lead by 25.

The game ends in a draw with a result for either side near impossible with the time left.

Notts finish on 270/4 after a brilliant rearguard by the Notts batsmen.

Match report as Joe Clarke hits his fourth century of the season.

I haven't seen any clips of the damage its causing, I am mindful that I can be sensitive to this sort of thing. It's horrible, I know people are suffering, and I hope once it has ended the world can rally to support the victims so that they have the aid to get back on with their lives. If you see images, it's sometimes difficult to remove them from your end - it's horrible to see people suffering.

My thoughts and well wishes go out to everyone in the path of Hurricane Beryl.

Latest image of Beryl from a satellite showing it is approaching Jamaica.

The eye of the Hurricane Beryl is just off the south coast of Jamaica.

It was a pleasant catch-up, and it was nice to hear his opinions on the new arrivals. I would have preferred if this had been done after all the recruitment was completed, but there’s always the possibility that the club will conduct another. I’m curious to know Stuart Maynard’s views on all the new signings. I’m delighted to see him looking cheerful and better prepared!

On 27/06/2024 at 14:23, Chris said:

Get behind the club, and hopefully Stuart Maynard. What do we have to lose?

I accept opinions, but I find it sad how some people are still criticising Stuart Maynard. Do these fans just want to be right for the sake of credibility? There's no need for negativity now.

Quite right @Blake Maynard had a lot to do with those six new signings too. And I'll tell you what, the ghost of Williams has departed, & this Notts team is now Maynard's team.

Lets Hope  NOTTS on the Tele Jinx Doesn't Strike!!

@Wheelbarrow repair man

With the defence we have?

Nah. I think we will be as sound as a pound.

Well, we should be on paper.

It's really only 15 minutes, and some people are overreacting. Also, why are we losing money just because this is on TV? Apparently, we're down £2,000. Why?

@Robbie

Unfortunately I also have a clear memory of that match. In fact I don't think Peter Bonetti ever played for England Again. I know Bobby Charlton said in his Autobiography on the flight back home from Mexico, Alf Ramsey came and sat with him and said Thankyou for all your efforts for England. He said I knew then my England career was over. Another Quote about the same match came from Franz Beckenbauer the German Captain. England were 2-0 at half time and Ramsey took Bobby Charlton off, to rest him for the Semi Final. We couldn't believe it Charlton was running everything in Mid Field and England take their Best Player Off, this gave us the advantage and determination to go on and Win The Match. Which they Did.

Save of the tournament. It's definitely up there and in the conversation for one of the greatest match saving saves of all time. It's remarkable how some people are now re-analysing it and downplaying just how good the save was in the importance of the occasion. 

As far as comparing it to Gordon Banks v Brazil, I see where people are coming from but wouldn't put it in the same category myself. 

I think who ever wrote the Piece about the Save Got a Wee Bit Over Excited. And I think there are other Saves available to watch on You tube which are as Good. Like it's been Stated it was the headed Save and the Excitement of that the Save which got Turkey through to the next round which  perhaps brought out the Banks comparison. But Really there is No Comparison. Despite an Excellent Stop, it's No where near as Good As The Banks One.

3 hours ago, Chris said:

I don't think Jude Bellingham should have made the gesture, but it's being blown out of proportion

100% agree with this. Shouldn't be blown up as much as it has but I suspect with it being someone like Jude Bellingham, an English player making moves, that's played a part in making it as big as it is. 

21 hours ago, Blake said:

I remember reading about two players in Italy doing the Nazi salute. I don't know if they got banned, but what's worse?

Wayne Hennessey made a Nazi salute but got cleared because he didn't know what the salute was. There's plenty of political/provocative gestures during games in the past some go punished some get cleared. 

Hopefully Jude learns from this. 

Wayne Hennessey isn't a very good liar, but somehow got off it. ????

@Chris

Yeah, I remember reading it and thinking he's wormed his way out of that one with an unconvincing lie. I still find it hard to believe how he could have gone his whole life without knowing exactly what that meant. 

I assume the first day back is all about checks and measuring where the players are, maybe some light gym work. Possibly some jog exercises and nothing that would shock them too much, even though they will be in shape - I can imagine there's a lot of recording of dietary and health stats.

By now, I would assume they have kicked the ball around and tried to emerge the new signings.

The first day back can be very exciting, with the club sharing pictures - I am pleased they all looked very determined and happy. Just wait until the actual training starts and you start doing laps at Meadow Lane.  

There’s much for the players to catch up on. It’s lovely to have them back, and it provides the new signings with an opportunity to adapt to our lifestyle.

We've been surprisingly quiet in terms of posting bits and pieces about the players returning for pre-season... Last season we had lots of videos and pics but it's been very quiet so far this time round. Anyway I noticed a pic from the club website and couldn't quite tell who this was...

Is this someone new? It’s not Alex Bass, it’s not Nick Tsaroulla and I don’t think it’s Matty Platt. The last person with the No.12 squad number was Tiernan, but I don’t think it’s him either… Am I wrong though? He looks familiar so have I missed someone completely obvious?

it sounds like a great fit for him, i do wish him all the best and hope that chester can have a good season. connell rawlinson should be a key player for them.

I have great admiration for Connell Rawlinson. His decision to work with Notts and to mutually agree on his release I believe allowed this to happen. I'm not sure that he would have been Chester bound otherwise. I really hope he can settle down, get himself on the team sheet and help Chester move forward.

It's a great opportunity for him.

This is a positive move for Chester. Rawlo’s addition to the team could make a significant difference. His tall stature could be advantageous. Since his departure, he has quickly managed to get things in order. This swift action leads me to agree more with @Chris’s viewpoint.

I think we all know how those fans feel!

it would be awful to have only 25 minutes but notts fans and other clubs who have been in dire straits will know the pain. i am glad they survived.

Those scenes are well worth it; I am pleased and thankful not to see another club fold. Vitesse have some very passionate fans, and it's difficult to see any supporter bases like them struggle.

its sad what happened in his later years, such a difficult time to live as well. i doubt professional players care or think about stars who earned little its part of why you cant relate to some of them regardless of their talent. whereas you can with players like tommy lawton.

@liampie

How True Your Words Are. How Very True.

It’s truly tragic what happened to Tommy Lawton in his later years. However, his footballing accomplishments and earlier life weren’t all bad. It’s just heart-wrenching that he passed away without any family around.

@Fan of Big Tone a compositor!

@Piethagoram where the tram now goes over near the train station?

I adore looking at old photos of Nottingham. The city changes so quickly, it’s fascinating.

being relegated from the football league seems to have come at a pretty big cost for sutton.

He’s a solid defender with good ball skills. It appears that Sutton is breaking up their team. Bromley should be able to utilise him better. He seems like a promising signing.