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Thought it at the time and again seeing that, looks like a yellow. Not high, no studs, not last man.

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It was certainly orange, another ref might have given a red for that.

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Thought it at the time and still stand by my thoughts that it should have been a red. I understand people calling it a tactical foul but that's boarding/in the territory of endangering an opponent with no intentions of playing the ball instead purposely swiping the legs. 

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I just think that this is just other example of the football rules and interpretation being all over the place.

Whether he was the last man committing the foul or not, the foul stopped Notts from having a glorious chance to score. It was a professional foul from behind.

I can remember when fouls like that were punished with a red card, because it was regarded as dangerous foul play.

Jodi could have been pulled back by his shirt, that would have invited a booking in itself, but Jodi was sythed down to the ground.

Remember, the pitches are much better than they used to be, just imagine if this foul has been commited on a muddy or part frozen pitch, the consequences for Jodi could have been very bad.

For me, that was serious and dangerous foul play and should have warranted a Red Card.

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It does fall into that orange card category. I agree with Robbie though, if you want to stop someone from running then pull them back and take the yellow. He comes flying in and takes him out, the issue here is that Jodi could’ve been badly injured.

I don’t think Barrow would’ve had any complaints had that been a red.

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And @menzinho I'm not saying that there was any intention of injuring Jodi, however, since most of the threat to them was coming down the left, I'm sure they wouldn't have been sorry if Jodi had had to go off after that foul. That's why I say it's a red card.

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very dangerous and reckless, i thought you were not allowed to foul someone from behind? he just steamrolled through jodi jones. no effort to win the ball. if that not dangerous and violent play i dont know what is.

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Posted this video, because Notts has two men over on the right hand side unmarked, a pass across from Jodi would have found one of them with a clear opportunity to score.

How can that terrible foul and in addition, stopping a clear Goalscoring opportunity be equivalent punishment for throwing in too late or questioning a decision and getting booked for it, as Notts player was after this incident?

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First time I’ve watched it, looks like the players only intent was to foul Jodi, and the speed and direction of foul risked his safety so red card for me. 
Apparently the ref was appalling throughout, so nobody should be surprised it wasn’t given. I applaud Cloughy for calling out the ref in his game, more managers should do it or else nothing will improve and the EFL will just keep sending them out to other matches and not address the problem.

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The thing is, if managers call out decisions they can face being fined for bringing the game into dispute. There's a very fine balance between what you can and can't say. The EFL and FA's treatment is very similar to what you would expect in North Korea. It's very, very heavily censored and therefore managers don't do it. Outspoken managers do, because they don't care about being fined, but a lot of lower tier managers bite their tongue.

They will share their thoughts carefully, and then will say "that's all I can say about it."

The incident caused by the foul on Jodi Jones by Luca Stephenson was a direct red card. Though I believe he should have been sent off before, being issued two yellow cards and then a red as he continuously interfered with free kicks and kicked the ball away. The amount of times he stood over the ball in an attempt to stop a quick free kick, this is something only this season which referees are meant to instantly card players for doing, and it includes kicking the ball away in an attempt to waste time.

Luca made no effort to get the ball, he simply wanted to take out Jodi.

It was a reckless challenge that wasn't borderline dangerous; it was dangerous. Fouls like that can seriously injure players. If it happened in the Premier League, he would be lucky to walk away with a yellow card. I hope Notts complains to the EFL so that Stephenson gets the punishment he deserves. If he tried to get the ball, I would be less insistent that he should be suspended. There was no effort but to stop Jodi at all costs. The foul after the incident should have seen a yellow card given, there was no need for the trip as the foul had been called and that was also intentional.

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I'm surprised it's even a debate; for me, it was a clinical challenge that was both reckless and dangerous. A yellow card would suggest the challenge was considered not to be serious, but no contact was made, and there was very little need for it to be made in the first place. I believe the referee was put off by Barrow's pushing and shoving. They repeatedly tried to get into the referee's ear all game. Any challenge that is dangerous should see a player sent off when done deliberately and through malice. Jodi Jones was clearly targeted because he was getting more involved; you have to be naive to think it wasn't.

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I thought at the time it was red, my friend from the US (whose wife actually refs to a high standard over there) couldn't believe the Yellow (and thought the Assistant refs were there for little more than decoration.  Mind you I also thought Bozzy gave them a penalty first half with a shove in the back, so maybe the ref was just poor.

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I agree @AmericanPie Jodi was targeted and although one can't go as far as saying a player is targeted to injure that player, there have been instances in the past where players have been taken out with the sole purpose of getting them off the field.

Jodi was our most influential player again on Saturday with most of the threat coming through him.

A famous player like Pele was targeted in the 1966 World Cup when he got injured by a series of horrendous tackles, and had to go off injured.

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I believe it was definitely a red card. The Barrow player seemed intent on stopping Jodi Jones and did so in a very risky manner. Their fans who think it was a fair tackle wouldn’t feel the same if roles were reversed. Even if it was against Notts, I’d still say it was a red because it was a ridiculous attempt at defence.

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I still think the referee should have sent off the Barrow player. It was a reckless and appalling tackle. Given his speed, there was no chance of getting the ball and he wasn’t even close to making contact. He simply took out Jodi Jones.

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Yes, I agree with most fans that it should have been a red card. I also agree that the trip shortly afterwards should have earned a yellow card. Barrow were clearly trying to hold on and it was a desperate tackle that would have caused uproar even at Sunday league level.

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It looked red to me at the time, and it looks red watching it again. Cynical, deliberate and dangerous. Ref should have stopped and thought for 5 seconds.

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I think it should have been red, and for sure had a Notts player done that, it would have been a red. 

Also when that player was subbed he came off with a huge grin on his face. The dirty ***. COYP

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The foul seemed to be aimed solely at taking down Jodi Jones. The Barrow player was nowhere near the ball. It was a fast and reckless lunge at Jodi. In my opinion, it deserved more than just a yellow card. The whole incident was unnecessary and unpleasant to witness.

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In my opinion, it was a red card offence. But nothing will change now, and I doubt Notts will raise any objections. The tackle wasn’t good, and at some point, Luca Stephenson might find himself on the receiving end of such a challenge. That’s what you call karma.

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I think it was a red card as well. I would have been okay with a yellow if he had touched the ball and showed some intention to tackle, but it seems like he was just trying to stop Jodi Jones at any cost.

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I've shown the clip to multiple people at work and none of them can see why it wasn't a red. 

As I mentioned, in real time I thought it was a red and even after seeing it over and over I stand by my original thought. The referee immediately gave the yellow, didn't even step back and have a think about the situation. Just whipped out a yellow without hesitation or a thought process to review what had just happened. 

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When is a Yellow Card or Red card shown to a player?

Yellow card.

Unsporting Behavior: Yellow cards are typically given when players engage in unsporting behavior, such as diving to simulate a foul, time-wasting (e.g., excessively delaying a free-kick), or showing disrespect to the referee through dissent.

Red Card.

Serious Foul Play: A red card is issued for actions that constitute serious foul play. This includes tackles that are reckless, involve excessive force, or endanger the safety of an opponent. 2. Violent Conduct: Any instance of violence, such as striking an opponent, kicking, or elbowing, merits a red card.

(Source Google)

Serious foul play was clearly what the Barrow player did. If he had just pulled Jodie back that would have been unsporting  behaviour and still warrant a yellow card, but it wouldn't have been serious foul play.

 

 

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