This is OUR club

[liampie]

4 hours ago, OP67 said:

I was a little confused with the appointment of Fullarton but having thought about it why not eh? Yeah Ray could have gone for Cooper who by the sounds of it thought he'd already got the job, maybe that's what lost him the job. However his record is a little up and down, did well in his last job with a top budget though and still got sacked!

We need to give the new man a chance to see what he can do. Ray is pretty much drinking in the last chance saloon here but as said above you don't become successful by not taking chances....although he does seem to fail from time to time

A win away at Crawley should shut a few abusive cretins up There are quite a few of those on the Notts County Supporters Faceache page!

exactly, we need to give him a chance but if it does not work out i am not sure what it will mean.

it was unpleasant under moniz, i fear the reaction if fullarton proves to be disappointing and i hope it does not reach this stage. 

[allardyces tash]

On 12/01/2016 at 22:19, ivansneck said:

At present it does take an owner to invest, but should it? Not in my opinion. The only reason invetment is needed is that players wages are vastly too high. If the FA capped them at say 50% income - not including donations - investment would not be needed, ownership would not be needed.

If a wealthy supporter, wanted to invest in the 'club', then let them improve facilities (as the Trews have done) or the academy etc. etc. English football and clubs like NCFC are in this predicament because of the insipid and corrupt FA.

Football will never be without owners, its the whole point fan owned clubs frequently fail.

[DangerousSausage]

22 minutes ago, allardyces tash said:

Football will never be without owners, its the whole point fan owned clubs frequently fail.

I don't think that's necessarily true, but if we're going to have the fan-based model, it has to be across the board, otherwise you've got an uneven playing field. Like this season, when Ray Trew whipped 150k out of his back pocket for McLeod - Wimbledon or Newport could never have competed with that.

In Germany you don't have owners like you do in the UK. But on the other hand, the clubs there make far more from sponsorship - local companies put annual seven-figure sums into fourth division clubs. Sums that are probably unknown outside the Premier League in England.

[ivansneck]

On 12/01/2016 at 22:19, ivansneck said: At present it does take an owner to invest, but should it? Not in my opinion. The only reason invetment is needed is that players wages are vastly too high. If the FA capped them at say 50% income - not including donations - investment would not be needed, ownership would not be needed.

If a wealthy supporter, wanted to invest in the 'club', then let them improve facilities (as the Trews have done) or the academy etc. etc. English football and clubs like NCFC are in this predicament because of the insipid and corrupt FA.

Football will never be without owners, its the whole point fan owned clubs frequently fail.

And so do "clubs" with owners. In both cases it is due to using the wrong business model. Members clubs allow fans to be part of successes and failures, but not be at the whim of appalling men like Mike Ashley , Ken Bates etc. (Note I don't include the Trews under this label)

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[Super_Danny_Allsopp]

On 31/01/2016 at 15:18, ivansneck said:

And so do "clubs" with owners. In both cases it is due to using the wrong business model. Members clubs allow fans to be part of successes and failures, but not be at the whim of appalling men like Mike Ashley , Ken Bates etc. (Note I don't include the Trews under this label)

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You can call the Trews' many things, but you wouldn't even put them close to the same bracket as the Mike Ashley's of this world. 

[xxx]

On 11 January 2016 at 10:54, hissingdwarf said:

I agree that booing the new boss is unfair. He did nothing more than bang in a cheeky job application, made a few pretty power-points and hit lucky with a daft chairman who never learns from his mistakes. As far as he's concerned result. He is now the boss and if he wants to make players stand on one leg for hours that's up to him now!

The bigger threat should and probably will come from people not attending at all and the gates falling, thus hitting Trew, not the manager.

Hopefully Fullarton will sort the defence out quick time and still play attacking football and Ray will be able to say, "told you I knew what I was doing (if you forget all the other managers I've hired and fired)"

and all fans will be happy, but lets be honest. Can't see it myself. If Moniz, who as an attacking manager failed, bearing in mind he had a pedigree when he came here, what are the chances a rookie with no experience whatsoever will do well? What were the odds of winning the lottery the other night? 45 million to 1? That''ll fit.

 

This is wrong on so many levels. As are a few  posts on here. For instance, do you seriously believe that fans "should" not attend in order to bring down the entire club?   The thread drips of negative sarcasm and insult and is not helpful in any way. Cheers all.

[Elite_pie]

I'll never understand those 'supporters' who decide they have had enough, but then appear to encourage others not to attend.  Just how is this supposed protest meant to work?  How can lower attendances possibly benefit the club?  Of course, it's up to each individual to decide whether they want to go to Notts games or not, but encouraging others not to go is pathetic.  They should remember that it's us supporters who do go that will keep the club alive for them should they ever choose to return.  

We tend to be labelled as "happy to accept mediocrity".  I prefer "loyal supporters".

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44 minutes ago, erindoors said:

This is wrong on so many levels. As are a few  posts on here. For instance, do you seriously believe that fans "should" not attend in order to bring down the entire club?   The thread drips of negative sarcasm and insult and is not helpful in any way. Cheers all.

I've spent years trying to encourage those who tell me they aren't going to attend or purchase season tickets to still do it.

Ultimately I have learned that the majority will still continue no matter what, they may miss the odd game but their loyality isn't questioned. It's just a feeling some have at times and to be fair, it's their decision. People spend good money to watch Notts, they still continue to support the club no matter what. I know you have said in the past and on here, that you disagree with it because it doesn't bring monies into the club (I nearly wrote Moniz out of habit) but the only way in truth is to bring success onto the pitch and I know that isn't easy.

With all due respect, it must be incredibly hard.

[Super_Danny_Allsopp]

16 minutes ago, Elite_pie said:

I'll never understand those 'supporters' who decide they have had enough, but then appear to encourage others not to attend.  Just how is this supposed protest meant to work?  How can lower attendances possibly benefit the club?  Of course, it's up to each individual to decide whether they want to go to Notts games or not, but encouraging others not to go is pathetic.  They should remember that it's us supporters who do go that will keep the club alive for them should they ever choose to return.  

We tend to be labelled as "happy to accept mediocrity".  I prefer "loyal supporters".

Let's be right, HD's comment was said in the heat of the moment WEEKS ago. At the time he was most likely angry, frustrated etc... I doubt he would want all supporters to boycott the club if you asked him now, but I think he's well within his rights to be disgruntled after recent seasons. However when you feel so low and let down, as many did, that is the type of reaction you intend to get when people feel those type of emotions. 

[liampie]

if you get bad service or are unhappy with something, you tend to stop paying for it. i might no agree with it overall with notts but its no different.

[Elite_pie]

1 minute ago, Super_Danny_Allsopp said:

Let's be right, HD's comment was said in the heat of the moment WEEKS ago. At the time he was most likely angry, frustrated etc... I doubt he would want all supporters to boycott the club if you asked him now. However when you feel so low and let down, as many did, that is the type of reaction you intend to get when people feel those type of emotions. 

You're right, I should have made it clear that my comments were aimed more at what is said on a regular basis on another forum rather than anything I've read on here.

It wasn't meant as a dig at HD.

[waldorf]

Just face it, some like to try and use things to make the grass appear greener.

[ivansneck]

I see @super_ram likes the above comment. Quite what a Derby supporter of his vintage would know about grass beats me. Would the baseball grounds mud appear browner be better?

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[super_ram]

4 hours ago, ivansneck said:

4 hours ago, ivansneck said:

I see @super_ram likes the above comment. Quite what a Derby supporter of his vintage would know about grass beats me. Would the baseball grounds mud appear browner be better?

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I see @super_ram likes the above comment. Quite what a Derby supporter of his vintage would know about grass beats me. Would the baseball grounds mud appear browner be better?

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Don't  ever remember much grass at the BBG @ivansneck but  I can remember seeing  Green in the  goal.Les was magnificent in our 2nd div winning season.Incidently the last time he played was a testimonial match for another former Rams goalie,Martin Taylor,against one of your teams ,Everton.Rams won 4 - 1.Sorry!

[ivansneck]

I remember Les Green well. Despite being the smallest top level keeper I've ever seen he played for the Rams when they won the second division

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[super_ram]

On 02/02/2016 at 08:08, ivansneck said:

I remember Les Green well. Despite being the smallest top level keeper I've ever seen he played for the Rams when they won the second division

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Only 5ft 8in.A bit of a joker too ,so I've heard.

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On 01/02/2016 at 17:05, liampie said:

if you get bad service or are unhappy with something, you tend to stop paying for it. i might no agree with it overall with notts but its no different.

Notts is a little difference but I do agree on the foundations, what I see as helping the club is the fact the community in and around the club are a big part. It's very much a social on Saturdays - I can tell you the difference between sticking to yourself and actually speaking with others.

Most match days I see many people I know all of which I enjoy speaking with.

People like @ivansneck, @magpiejue, @upthepies, @MagBri and @2piesonmyshirt etc

[Elite_pie]

On 01/02/2016 at 17:05, liampie said:

if you get bad service or are unhappy with something, you tend to stop paying for it. i might no agree with it overall with notts but its no different.

I think it is different, very different in my case.  Football support tends to send logic and rational thought flying out of the window!  As an example, if a restaurant offered poor service, I would look elsewhere in an instant.  Where Notts are concerned I have frequently had poor service, but looking elsewhere just isn't an option.  I survived the decade of dross pre-Munto with my support undiminished, so I must be pretty much bombproof by now!

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Demand a better waiter next time @Elite_pie. 

Interesting concept - I think I'll ask fans tomorrow how 'bombproof' they are in terms of their support. That should prove interesting viewing!

[Joe Jones]

Supporting Notts is like having a family member who's a total wrong'un. They let you down, they shame you in front of the community, even the nation (Salford anyone?), but as much as you want to disown them, which would make your life so much easier... you can't, cause they're family.

[Fozzy]

2 hours ago, Elite_pie said:

I think it is different, very different in my case.  Football support tends to send logic and rational thought flying out of the window!  As an example, if a restaurant offered poor service, I would look elsewhere in an instant.  Where Notts are concerned I have frequently had poor service, but looking elsewhere just isn't an option.  I survived the decade of dross pre-Munto with my support undiminished, so I must be pretty much bombproof by now!

You beat me Elite, I was a season ticket holder for years and followed them up and down the country, but it got to me so bad I had to stop going for a while (trust years) apart from the odd foray. I have my hunger back now though and find having a season ticket is easier to force you to the Lane when it is bad, than paying on the day.

[xxx]

38 minutes ago, Joe Jones said:

Supporting Notts is like having a family member who's a total wrong'un. They let you down, they shame you in front of the community, even the nation (Salford anyone?), but as much as you want to disown them, which would make your life so much easier... you can't, cause they're family.

Joe, I think that's a really true comment. I have felt thoroughly embarrassed by a performance at (rare) times, but I would never put down my club in public, or ever promote that feeling in others. It's like mummy bear syndrome? Fiercely defensive of what/who you love. A heavy, but much fought for and wanted "burden." And whatever happens, I will always be a Notts supporter. I don't know why others think custodians think otherwise.

[xxx]

On 1 February 2016 at 17:05, liampie said:

if you get bad service or are unhappy with something, you tend to stop paying for it. i might no agree with it overall with notts but its no different.

and then..it ceases to exist.

[CliftonMagpie]

@erindoors do you think the club will be reviewing the ticket prices for next season?

[xxx]

4 minutes ago, CliftonMagpie said:

@erindoors do you think the club will be reviewing the ticket prices for next season?

we review them every season, CM