The team is doing very well & has an outside chance of qualifying via the playoffs. Although their chances are slim, they are making history & boosting their standing in World Football.

Wouldn't it be great to see them qualify and have a bloom in the sport, pushing further generations to improve and pick up their reputation, similar to Iceland, who often got overlooked by other Scanianavian countries.

Now this would worry me a lot, because that is a lot of money to lose and it doesn’t exactly make it appealing to investors. They are seemingly quite confident they've got a plan to fix it but I'm not so sure...

By the sounds of it they are pinning everything on getting outside investment and I'm not sure what they'll actually do other than simply be used cover the losses. I've just had a quick look and Burton don't own the land the stadium is built on so it's not like they can easily start doing things like hotels, restaurants, sports courts as another way of bringing in revenue...

How do you get a club that an average attendance of just over 4,000 to be profitable (or at the very least sustainable) and competitive in League 1 (or League 2 for that matter), it's a mammoth task.

One season Stockport County achieved promotion at a loss of around £5m

To lose £8m is absolutely bonkers, given the smallish supporter base

Are they still being investigated for dodgy dealings? How does a League One team lose so much money?

Burton might have a few more rough seasons ahead of them, and salvaging their place in L1 might not be their biggest battle. It's difficult to feel any sympathy when they broke their transfer record not long ago.

A big welcome from me @Mark Berehowskyj & welcome to our community.

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In modern day football it’s hard to select a first eleven, because every game is different. Different opponents have differing strengths and weaknesses. Coaches these days select a team with tactics in mind. I got the impression from MP at the fans forum that he tried two up front, but it upset the balance of the team. So in that case do you pick Jatta or Dennis. Or is it a case of it depends on the opposition?

I believe that Martin Paterson wants every squad member to prove to him that they are that person to be in the starting eleven.

During among seasons there are always going to be injuries & suspensions to players. Some players will need to be rested, so a strong squad is essential to a club that has promotion in mind.

But it is a fact of life that players who cannot get into the starting eleven are going to be disappointed, even if they are regularly on the bench & get on the field as substitutes.

It already appears that players like Grant, Griffiths, Norburn, Ness, Cotter, Bennetts, Aljofree & Luker are now mostly on the bench, which leaves others like Jarvis, Kouhyar, Traoré & Gordon, fighting to get a place on the bench.

Platt has been injured & will find it hard to return to the starting eleven when he returns.. Martin Paterson will have to Manage any player discontent & it may mean that some players will have to go on loan for game time.

But as I wrote previously, it only takes a few injuries to change the whole situation & fringe players suddenly become very important players that the Head Coach will need. So the who squad may well be needed at some point during the season. The Head Coaches job isn't always easy.

I am going to try to give a different perspective and not name a full squad.

I would be a head coach who picked the squad based on who we were playing rather than who I felt should be in the starting eleven, and things would change per game, depending on who we are playing and on individual form.

Kelle Roos, for the most part, is guaranteed a start. I would like to see Harry Griffiths pushed more, though I think Roos is the only "experienced" option we have.

Rod McDonald is currently the best performing defender, and I would put him in the same bracket as Scott Robertson and Matt Palmer. Additionally, Jatta writes himself into the team, but Matthew Dennis's form does leave questions as to whether he should start or be on the bench. I think I would rotate between starting and bench, considering we lack options in the striker department.

Tyrese Hall's form currently deserves him a start, though this could change, and it applies to the rest of the squad, which I haven't named. The bench could look mixed, defensive, or attack-based.

The fact that Matt Palmer doesn't score many goals is not a concern for me. His role as the anchor between defence and attack is more vital to the team that any goals he might score. When he passes the ball he doesn't just stand and admire it, he moves to a position to receive it back to keep the move flowing and moving the opposition around. Then play a pass through the lines when the opportunity arises.

The way he's played this season @McPie, it shouldn't be a concern for anyone. It'd be a boost for him to score his first for us in L2, but we don't need it to succeed.

His massive improvement over last season must be a combination of feeling stronger physically and psychologically after the injury and Pato getting buy-in all round on playing forward faster and more positively. End result? He's playing like the Matty Palmer of old.

We are built to provide the forwards, and not so much other players, but there's no reason why players like Conor Grant can't improve their finishing. I think Matt Palmer is the more complete player at this stage, but there are positional and some techniques he could try in order to maximise any chances that come his way. He had a superb effort against Crewe saved; I had to double-check that it was Palmer who struck the shot.

The difference between Palmer and Grant is the selflessness with which the skipper goes about applying his trade. He wants to win as part of the team, and I suspect assists and goals are just bonuses.

Palmer is also a player that sees his worth; he's an established player and knows just how much Notts misses his absence.

Grant has been discarded and hasn't found his place in teams; his confidence and age mean that he would need to settle in order to find form that would see him consecutively score goals. If he were scoring regularly, he would be in the team and showing that his form was good. While he works hard and is a very skillful player, the number of times he shines enough to be voted Man of the Match in games is very rare.

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Worcester score their third.

Notts 0 Worcester 3.

78 mins

Another for Worcester

Notts 0 Worcester 4: 82 mins

Full Time.

Defeat for Notts.

Notts 0 Worcester 4..

It was a poor performance from the Notts team today. Certainly not up to the standards that they have been showing most of the season.

Worcester played very well and I'm sure it was their best performance of the season, however the Notts team will be very dissapointed. Just a bad day at the office unfortunately l.

I love reading these posts thanks for sharing your thoughts @BlackandWhitePie and @Robbie I think the thing that shines through for most people is the friendliness and respect and long may it continue.

Chris spoke to me in person about his ambitions, what he wanted to achieve and how he felt PON represented the fans but needed help to be more organised. He asked if I would consider joining the team. I was a little unsure at first. I already knew about the great work he had been doing with the site, especially on social media. I do not think the fan base realises how demanding it is to give so much time and effort to a team you care about. It was only after more conversations online that I understood how I could help and why I was being asked to join.

Why did you join prideofnottingham.co.uk?

I joined because I felt it was my duty to help a fantastic fan who clearly lives and breathes black and white. As I said before, joining something where I could use my skills, make a difference and feel wanted made the choice much easier.

What is your main highlight of being a member?

The highlight for me has been seeing more members get involved. PON is a labour of love for the volunteers and I think the gaffer works hard to give value to those who take part. Once you join in, it becomes easy and you start to enjoy it more. When I first arrived, I did not know any of the team and I felt I had something to prove. I always felt accepted, which matters a lot.

How much have you seen PoN grow during your time?

There will always be quiet times or moments when poor results make people less keen to contribute. Even so, I have seen the site grow a lot since the upgrade to v5. I think this shows the effort of the team and the members who want it to succeed.

As a community, what would you say are the three core values to PoN and why?

Core values are easy to name. Dedication, togetherness and professionalism.

Why did you join prideofnottingham.co.uk?

The reason I joined PoN is because I’m the only Notts fan among my close friends so this platform gives me the opportunity to share my thoughts with fellow pies.

What is your main highlight of being a member?

The highlight for me is having other supporters understand and identify with your comments and topics created. To receive a ‘like’ is so satisfying.

How much have you seen PoN grow during your time?

I have seen PoN grow in the time I have been involved and it’s particular encouraging to see a wide range of ages contributing.

As a community, what would you say are the three core values to PoN and why?

The three core values are respect, creativity and honesty. This is because even when we don’t agree on a subject, respect is shown. Honest opinions are given without a forum turning into personal feud between posters. The creativity is seen in the wide range of topics discussed.

The final position will of course depend on many things, injuries to key players, signings in the January window etc., so it’s hard to predict at this stage.

I could do with two votes one to vote where I hope we’ll finish and one to vote where I realistically think we’ll finish.

Judging by the results and form so far, I think there is a good chance we will finish in the playoffs, Patterson does seem to be instilling some grit and fight into the squad and is very often tactically astute, the early season disappointment at the quality of signings has dissipated and I do think we have some exciting prospects and a good depth of squad.

So bearing all that in mind my vote goes to position 4-7. I hope lots of readers will vote it’ll be interesting to see what folks think.

Right now I'm torn between 4th-7th or 8th-12th. But, at the start of the season, I predicted that we'll either do better than last season or we'd have a shocking season and we'd finish somewhere like 17th... I can't see us finishing that low now, so I'll go with the more positive outlook!

I've gone for 4-7. I don't think its impossible for Notts to get top 3, it's just I haven't seen enough yet to convince me.

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I do not enjoy programmes that repeat the same stories many times and are then rebranded as a new series with added speculation and facts that do not reveal much. I prefer true crime documentaries that focus on more recent events.

Yes, I enjoy watching documentaries about true crime. Fred Dinenage had a show called "Murder Casebook" many years ago which was very good.

I like it when the person telling the story is invested in what happened and shows respect while explaining how the crime was solved or investigated.

Without some of these shows, you would never imagine the ways people have harmed others or tried to cover it up. It is a terrible subject, but human nature means it still draws your curiosity.

I used to watch Crimewatch UK from when it was first aired in 1984 with Nick Ross & Sue Cook, & later Jill Dando, but stopped watching from the 2000 onward as I thought it wasn't the same without those three.

The club seemed to handle things well. There were calls for more openness, but it didn’t get out of hand. The extension went through, and now Alassana Jatta is back in the squad. I think Notts are listening to what people are saying. They seem to be trying to respond in a way that’s helpful and not just reactive.

At the time, I wasn’t too happy about it all. But you can’t just charge in and expect the club to deny everything straight away. That would only stir things up more. It’s fair for fans to want better communication. The club does seem willing to talk, but it’s about picking the right moment. We might not always agree with when that is.

I sometimes wonder what these fans are thinking when they go around spreading rumours. They do it on purpose, knowing it can cause problems. Most of the time the rumours are not funny and they are not worth sharing.

The Jatta incident was handled well inside the club by Notts. Many other clubs fail to deal with things in the same way. While I believe fans deserve a certain level of openness, issues like Jatta are best managed between the club and the player.

Gossip and rumours can seem harmless, but they can cause problems, and for a club wanting to achieve promotion, it can cause difficulties. It can create problems with players which would not otherwise happen, and while I understand the element of wanting to know what is happening or going off. I would say sometimes it is best to conduct it privately, but there are times when open transparency is a must.

I think the Notts fan base is a little quick to jump to knee-jerk reactions, or pressing the meltdown button but a lot of it does come from wanting better. I don't always understand it.

In this scenerio, Notts handled things very well and managed to get Jatta back doing what he does best: scoring goals!

i will give you £20 when i next see you @Chris, if not i will donate it online. 👍

If you can meet me near the burger van in the KOP, I will make the donation in person, gaffer. I wish you all the best with this, as the improvements and updates have been spot on. You are enhancing a brilliant community, which now seems to be getting the recognition it deserves. I wish I could help more, but I will make time to contribute to the site and do my part.

I am still trying to seek donations to help PON reach the target required to finalise the remaining resources.

If any members are in a position to donate, please consider it. I can assure you that it will help the overall goal of the site. Please don't if you already have done this year; those who have are incredible, but there should be others out there open to assisting this target. I will be looking into ways of selling merch more regularly, but since upgrading, no new purchases have happened, and I believe it's due to the banners I used to display on the home page and inside articles.

Also, I will be hoping to attract support from businesses with fair sponsorship and advertising prices. None of this silly stuff where sites claim they get x amount of views and demand £500. This would be affordable, but a partnership with PON where I would actively try to shed light on those who take us into consideration for representing their businesses.

Top reply @Robbie agree with every word.

Yes, MP is a different kettle of fish. Obviously there's a massive psychological element to competitive, professional sport. We need a personality like Pato at the club. The culture at the top, and behind the scenes, is considered and quieter, so it's even more important that the intensity and passion comes from the Head Coach.

i much prefer martin paterson for how he reads the game and approaches them, not afraid to make changes or to sub important players. there feels a much better logic behind his decision. stuart maynard looked good on the training pitch, but his squad selections and changes often took any momentum out of games even before kick off.

1. i think it was more confidence than form that played part of the issue, we were thin in the attacking momentum.

2. the home game felt more like 50/50 in terms of winning, away i would say very few believed and the atmosphere at wimbledon was not very good. the performance on the pitch was not encouraging, as we looked unlikely to have an attack. i always felt junior morias should have started, as he made a difference coming on and did more in those minutes than mai traore did with much longer.

3. we could have done something had chances gone our way at meadow lane, but by the end of the game i did not fancy going to wimbledon without jatta. his absence caused the biggest impact, as with him there might have been a chance. wimbledon played us off the park at their ground, we never looked like scoring and even having a shot on goal seemed unlikely. for me, i think notts went feeling sorry for themselves.

I'm remembering now where this is taken on the podcast - Wimbledon's superiority as promotion candidates, especially in terms of their overall approach.

I definitely don't go along with that. As@Robbie said, the personality and methods of the coach, and the culture created (a topic MP picks up on), were enormous factors as to why we went out so lamely. A team that plays positive, attractive football doesn't have to such a passive, toothless mentality and not want to win enough. MP looks like he's really setting about to fix that thankfully.

I look forward to seeing more improvements over time. I am thankful for all the changes that have been made to give PON more value for us fans.

The site has come a long way since I was last here. The live features and the new layout look great. It would be good to see more fans using the site, even if only casually, because the more people who do this the less it will feel like it is just the same regular faces.

PON has always been good.

The activity streak might be the push I need to get back on here as a regular face. The improvements are very good. The live features and the new menu changes make it easier to use on a mobile. It is brilliant to see more changes that help bring the community together.

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Fraudsters will always be linked to the clubs they’ve been involved with, like Russell King and Notts. It’s something most people would rather forget. I hope he’s caught and given a proper sentence, not a soft one.

This is where the Football Regulator needs to come in and ensure that every potential owner of a football club is fully investigated to ensure they are suitable to own & run a Club in the football pyramid.

Hopefully if this is what is going to happen going forward it will ensure that instances like this are put firmly in the history books.

Hearts fans thought he was going to change their fortunes. Instead, he has been a terrible disaster, which many people expected. So many young and talented Scottish players have been sold by Hearts just to keep the club going.

what do americans know about football? the wealthy owners of club would always like to keep the premier league a closed league but that wont help them generate the amount of advertisement that the league attracts. i would question the sanity of any fan who felt differently, because promotion and relegation makes it supporting a club mean something, when you see just how better you have it when things are good.

I hate it when an overseas owner comes in and acts like they know everything about football, especially when it is an American. Most of them seem clueless and only think about themselves. He would not like it if Birmingham City had a glass roof put over them, especially if they slipped up and were relegated again. Who really wants to play in the same league forever without any changes each season.

He is talking about elite teams when he does not even own one. It would be like the Reedtz thinking they could have a say on what happens in League One before we have even won promotion.

Talk of changes usually comes at the cost of what makes football exciting. I wonder if he thinks VAR is a television show, and that it is worth it because of the drama it causes, as if the decisions could be cut into an episode of Dallas.

I would day definitely the right decision, some key players missing and Swindon are riding quite high in the table at the moment.

I'm pleased...hopefully it will be live on Sky+.....

The decision has been made by people far more qualified than me. If you asked me, and that is the point of this discussion, I would have played on. I think we do have the cover and the players need minutes.

I believe that by postponing, you are telling the squad they are weaker because of the absent players. At our level, postponed games can cost money and also affect form.

That said, I am more than happy to accept the decision.

Long overdue, a lot of clubs have been focusing on this sort of stuff for years. It's like the memory club with ex-players, though, and the Young Pies. If they don't commit and make sure it is done properly, it will lose focus and become a waste of time. I haven't seen any news about the memory club for some time, but I know the Young Pies are finally back on track.

Preserving the clubs history and having a museum would be of benefit to all Notts fans.

The club are doing very well with many of the fan driven initiatives. They do need the right people though, and it should always be done for the good of the club and not for personal egos.

I am sure most of those who help want it to be a success for Notts. At the same time, I am mindful that some might see it as a chance to boast about their part in it or even about things they might borrow.

It is great to see the Reedtz brothers and Notts working to bring more of the club’s history into Meadow Lane. This matters because we often take seasons for granted, especially when the team is doing well on the pitch. I hope fans who own memorabilia will be willing to loan those special items to the club at no cost.

There are many collectors who hold winning medals and historic keepsakes that deserve to be shared with everyone.

Just on the topic of free-agents, I’m amazed Hakeeb Adelakun hasn’t got a club yet. He turned down Salford’s offer of a new contract in the summer but I’m guessing his wages (or at least what he’s asking for) has been the issue here. Scored 9 goals and got 7 assists for Doncaster on loan in League 2 for half a season and then he signed for Salford where last season he scored 13 goals in 30 matches for them.

Problem for us right now our squad is pretty stacked, we aren’t light on players so if a free-agent was to sign they’d have to basically be first team quality. I think there are a couple of players from @Ash ’s list that could be that, like Dennis, Redmond and Andersen but I think realistically they’d be well out of our budget.

Some very good players have been mentioned, but I agree with those who think the club will wait until January. We usually spend money in the transfer window, and I am not expecting or demanding that we do.

It is just that we signed Jatta in January, along with Mai Traore and Will Jarvis, all for respectable fees at this level and in League One. I think the club will be looking for the right player to bring in. Still, there are many on this list who I would love to see join us.

I think striker and goalkeeper are two areas where we still need more depth. I worry that Kelle Roos will be found out as a weak link. If teams study footage of his mistakes, they will try to copy it, and in time he could start costing us points.

I am fair enough to admit that defenders also make mistakes just as often, and perhaps they are not judged as harshly. But a goalkeeper is meant to give confidence to the team. Roos does not do that.

As for a striker, a young player willing to play smaller parts could be useful. If he turned out to be a good goal scorer, then who knows what he could achieve.

Look at Stockport and other clubs. They show how important it is to have players ready to step in when form drops.

Notts have shown they can play well. It's about keeping control during matches and making sure the performance is strong enough across the full ninety minutes. The win itself isn't hugely important, but it was a good showing. Like me, fans will want to see that kind of effort more often in league games.

When I say the win doesn't mean much, I don't mean it wasn't good. It does matter, just not in terms of points. It's more about the hope that Notts can rise to this level more often in League Two.

I thought we would put out a squad and get dismantled in all honesty, but Martin Paterson got the best out of the players he gave a chance and that's exactly what you want to see. I think Barnsley felt they could play some of their fringe players and that they would still be good enough. So, I don't think it reflects badly on us but on them for not mounting more of a game against a weaker League Two team when you consider how many aren't regular starters.

The competition I don't really care for, but I am proud of the players for grafting a positive result because it will have helped with the league.

it was a very good win, and i do think it has helped with overcoming the defeat to crewe. defeats like that can linger and lead to frustration but i think the win is the positive outcome we needed especially for the oldham match we dominated and won.

A big welcome from me @Michelle Robson & welcome to our community.

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I think there were a lot more positives than negatives to takeaway from that match which is only a good thing. Since that Crawley match I'd say the performance levels have improved quite a bit. My worries about the squad not being competitive enough at the start of the season are gone now, I think actually overall we've got some very good options in a number of positions. And this slight tweak in style where we are a tad more direct at times means we aren't as reliant on a number 10 to dictate which last season it felt like we 100% needed Crowley or Didzy to play. It's not the case now, we are almost just as effective if not more by making runs and playing a balls into the channels at times. You just need committed runners with a bit of skill and we've got that.

In terms of the goalkeeping situation I think we’ll have to persist with Roos in goal and hope that Steve Collis can work some magic and get Roos looking confident when it comes to corners and set-pieces. He works with the keepers day in day out, if Griffiths was out-performing Roos in training each week he’d have had his chance by now. Sam Slocombe isn’t the answer either for me. He’s not played a competitive match of football for months and I’d imagine as he’s now one of the assistant coaches he’s done zero goalkeeper training.

I agree with @Scotty 's point about triple substitution second half, I think that was of the most important bits of game management. Jatta, Hall and Iorpenda, whilst still trying, weren’t able to press or trouble the Oldham back line as effectively. That was just down to being a tad tired nothing to do with ability. After their goal the Oldham defence were able to step onto to us more and that got the rest of their team up the pitch. But when they had to deal with three fresh attacking players, in Dennis, Grant and Kouyhar who could run and press hard, we were able to force them back.

I think we’ll see more early subs this season if we want to maintain that ability to press and run hard. Asking the forward players and midfielders to do it effectively for 90 minutes is a big ask. We can make 5 subs now, so that is a big help in terms of keeping the side as fresh and energetic as possible.

On the game management point, I think it’s something we can easily rectify. Over the past few seasons there have been critics of our possession based style of play. Going from side to side and backwards just to keep hold of the ball. Well when you go two or three up, that’s exactly the time to play a bit of possession football. The opposition are fired up and have momentum to try and get back in the game. We need to nullify their threat for a few minutes and then go again, rather than surrender possession and encourage their momentum.

there is a lot more for oldham to learn from the game than ourselves, but notts looked very comfortable until they scored. it could have been another 4, or even 5-0. but the game ending 3-1 is not a negative even though it would have been nice to keep a clean sheet. we can blame roos for not getting to the ball first and being lobbed, but so many players were caught out of position. they are equal to the blame, i think if we are going to attack with so many players keeping one or two players back in central areas would help with recovery.

biggest takaway in my eyes is how good we look when chances keep coming, we could have had far more and whilst conor grant had a couple of chances. how many did jatta miss? he had a lot more and could have scored 4 by himself, scoring 2 should not give him a free pass.

Calm amidst the chaos.

Is Hall’s time at Notts now going to mirror Abbott’s? It took him a few weeks to make a mark but once he got into the first team there was no stopping him…

It was a good game, though there were spells where the game just sat and it became a little boring. This is a credit to both teams playing the waiting game and just getting familiar with each other. Oldham surprised me that they were very focused on keeping the ball on the ground, whereas it was Notts especially in the final 20 minutes of the game, keeping the ball in the air.

Oldham looked like they wouldn't score until their keeper booted the ball and found their player clean through. This will sound harsh, but the moment the ball flew through the players, I knew Roos would make the wrong decision and end up being lobbed.

I would say they looked lacking in confidence, but I think much of it goes down to the way Notts played. Oldham aren't a bad team, but they aren't that threatening. The goal gave them a surge, and if we weren't 3-1 up at this stage, I would have felt like "here we go again," but credit to Martin Paterson; his changes introduced fresh legs, even though at the time I was pondering why we made certain changes.

Isn't there a noticeable difference in making such changes now compared to the start of the season?

I think the changes at the beginning of the season would have been negative, considering how lively Oldham became after scoring and how wobbly we started to look. We had spells where we couldn't clear the ball very well, and this all stemmed from us almost scoring a fourth goal.