At the matches where Jatta's scored, his performances have been impressive. His finishing looked sharp and confident. It's always great to see striker making an impact early on. Looking forward to seeing more.

The decision to sign Jatta when Notts did last season provides him with ample time to acclimate to life in England and adapt to the dynamics of League Two. He appears to be a proficient finisher who understands the game well and knows precisely where to position himself. If he gets more playtime this season, his performance statistics should be impressive.

I think Jatta, if he stays fit, could be a sensation this season.

He's a different type of striker compared to Macaulay, but I'm sure the resultant goals scored could be very similar to Macca's.

I think that Jatta has put himself into contention to have the converted number nine shirt after the first three games of the season. He even looks like a number nine, and took his chances against Wealdstone like a number nine.

Still an opportunity for Scott, First and Moria's to stake a claim, but that window is getting smaller.

I believe Notts will recruit another forward. I have no objections to Cedwyn Scott or Junior Morias, but it seems Scott is preferred to play in a supporting striker role. Morias has appeared decent, but we haven’t seen him given a consistent run to fully comprehend his contribution.

The club will probably take their time to find the appropriate successor for Macaulay Langstaff, who, in my opinion, is more likely to be assigned the number 9 shirt.

Alternatively, the shirt might go to Alassana Jatta, but I personally think he will be given a different number.

On 12/07/2024 at 13:57, TheSkipper said:

I don’t anticipate the club signing a striker anytime soon. The presence of the young lad from Derby among our trialists reinforces my belief that we’ll give our current forwards a chance. They may not get the number 9 shirt, which I think will be reserved for a special announcement. I suspect this will happen during the January transfer window, with the club using it to signal their intent to push for promotion. Players like Junior Morias, who don’t get much game time, deserve a chance. The number 9 shirt should be saved for a high-profile signing in January.

I understand your point, but considering our lack of experienced strikers at this level, I believe the club will seek a long-term replacement. Morias should receive more playing time, but I think Jatta is the likely candidate from the current squad to play more. With Scott being favoured in a different role, it indicates that we need a bit more depth.

Unless Morias goes, I don't think Notts need a striker to replace Langstaff. We have three excellent strikers already who are quite capable of scoring at least 15 goals a season with the attacking midfielders we have to supply them.

Jatta & Scott have to be the top two with McGoldrick & Morias, if he stays in reserve.

I'm very happy with the strike force that we have. If we need to strengthen this area in January we can do it then.

An interesting question and the more you think about it, the more questions you have. I think the buck stops with SM. It's his job to pick the right personnel to fit into the system. The system comes from the top down though. So is SM allowed to change systems or style of play? Hmmmmm. Oh man, I'm not going that rabbit hole, it's bed time........

@Dripsey3

Good Night Sleep Well.

The problem last season was letting in 35 to 40 more goals than we should have done.

If we hadn't have let them goals in, Notts would have either won the league or would have at least come third & got promoted.

There is no question that Notts had the best attacking midfield & strike force in the League, but unfortunately, the worse defence.

Notts have now fixed that problem on paper, & with Matt Palmer back, we should get automatic promotion on paper, or at the VERY least, a playoff spot.

The recruiters have done their job, now it's up to Maynard to do the work he's paid for to get Notts into successful working unit.

There are no excuses now for Stuart, he has to deliver otherwise his job will be in jeopardy.

With Scott Jatta McGoldrick Crowley and occasionally  Jones and Nemane scoring the odd Goal then I think Notts are Fully Covered in the Striking Department. And of Course Junior Morias is on standby, if he's going to get a Chance of Playing.

he should be a good signing for them, its a shame its not us but stockport do like to have a strong attacking option.

It’s a seasonal loan, not a permanent agreement. If he performs well, his value might exceed what teams in the lower half of League One can afford. Overall, it’s a promising signing.

@DeadlyMacca

If you insist in changing your Monika, then there's Really only one Name you need to Use. DeadlyBradd,  Sir Les is after all the all time Leading Goal Scorer for Notts County. I Need To Say No More.

@DeadlyMacca take your time, there is no need to rush just because macca left.

there are some really good suggestions here.

@DeadlyMacca

Come On Then Don't Leave Us On Tender Hooks. Like Hughie Green used to say It's Make Your Mind Up Time.

Well, students could find them, and it's not a safe idea to combat mass shootings with more guns. What would be a better solution would be to make sure that school had appropriate security. Schools in the UK look like prisons, whereas in America they look like nice normal places.

The UK goes overkill on the security side, America thinks the only solution is having more violent weapons at hand.

Another issue is that school shooters may decide to target meeting points or other venues if schools do manage to cut down on guns/weapons getting into them. The problem just doesn't go away. I do find it curious as to why we don't tend to have violent crimes in schools.

It's a good thing, knifes are such a big issue in the UK. Whereas in the United States it's more guns.

A 15-year-old knows what they are doing but at same time the parents knowingly knew he had access to the guns and were alright with him using it – I know it’s not a view shared by all in America but how can anything be gained from letting a child use gun!? Personally, it might be harsh but if America isn’t going to do anything about gun restriction, these mass-shooting will just keep happening. A ruling like this would at least make parents think twice about letting their child use a gun.

I genuinely feel sorry for the kids at schools in America, it's unacceptable that they have do gun drills to prepare for a shooting. Like how tragic can that be teaching a 6 year old to hide under their desk… And the sad thing is, the drills don't really protect them it’s all just down to luck, really bad luck, at the end of the day.

It’s bizarre so many Americans can’t see the issue here and all because of some poxy statement written nearly 250 years ago. Society has moved on it’s about time America did too.

This sounds like someone's trying to blame more people for what one person did with bad intentions. I'm not sure these accusations will be successful. Is Donald Trump trying to get the CIA charged because they didn't keep him safe? It's true, they might not have done their jobs properly, and it could have been much worse.

I recall the sounds the old stands would make, particularly in windy or rainy conditions. The fans were packed tightly, which helped with warmth, but the lack of toilets could make it a bit unpleasant on warm days when fans would retreat to the back of the stands. I was quite fond of the earlier version of Meadow Lane, such a striking and iconic ground. Derek Pavis did well by not straying too far from it.

Gotta love a bit of Notts history, especially to a new fan like me, makes it that much more interesting.

Even after supporting Notts for a considerable period, you continue to discover new things. I believe the club’s history is something that truly stands out. It’s heartening to see it being commemorated.

Looks like the Notts Management are holding a team bonding session in the Netherlands, while they are preparing to face Duisburg on Saturday.

By all accounts, Matt is settling in well and he's optimistic for the upcoming season.

With larger squads, more frequent games, and players with potential health conditions, I believe the current system is fine. However, before long, you might be able to substitute your entire squad. It should be kept to a reasonable limit, but I fully support the current setup.

Did the number of substitutions increase during COVID, allowing teams to make more than 5 changes? I mean temporarily.

I seem to recall watching a few games where virtually the whole squad was coming off, but my memories are iffy, so this could have been a foreign game or something. That seemed excessive but 5 is about the right amount. I think anything higher, it just becomes a farce.

Three subs has always seemed quite restrictive, whereas you can make 4 changes and reserve the 5th just in case of an injury.

I would rather see tactical changes which are introduced by bringing on a different player, then to watch a match where teams are grinding out a 0-0. Much like coverage of a football match on The Simpsons. It gives managers a chance to change things and inject fresher legs, so personally I like how things are right now.

The footballing authorities might not admit it, but Football seems to be going the way of following American football where they have "special teams"

Examples are substitutions being made before extra time to put on a goalkeeper who is good at saving penalties and players who are good at taking penalties.

It worked well for Notts in the playoff final

Do we really miss them old FA Cup replays?.

Not really.

@ARLukomski....  

So far, I would go for...

                     Bass

       McDonald, Bedeau, Platt

Nemane                          Jones

             Robertson
                        Palmer

      <-- Crowley ->>
                          <<- Scott ->>

                       Jatta

Wing backs: Nemane and Jones. Robertson acting as the defensive cover and anchor, Palmer (when fit to get us moving forward). Crawley and Scott to operate within the attacking midfield zone. Jatta as the lead striker.

Bench:
Slocombe, Macari, Tsaroulla, Gordon, Austin, Edwards, McGoldrick.

This is as of right now, but by no means final. We still need a centre-back (cough cough Lucas Ness), a centre-mid (cough cough Charlie McCann) and a striker with pace and can press (cough cough Benji Magee or Brad Young).

You can flip a coin between Aaron Nemane and Kellan Gordon. I've chosen Gordon as he gives us more balance in the wing-back positions due to Jodi being more attacking. Our wing-back/full-back options are absolutely mental and is probably our strongest area of the pitch. 

The back 3 gives a nice balance. Matty Platt being a more aerially dominant centre half in the middle with Bedeau and Macari being able to stay wide to receive the ball and drive into space. 

Cedwyn can play just behind Jatta like he did for Langstaff in our promotion winning season, but just ahead of Crowley. For me though we still need a striker with Langstaff's pressing instincts and a bit more pace than our current options. 

GK Alex Bass
RCB Lewis Macari
CB Matty Platt
LCB Jacob Bedeau
RWB Kellan Gordon
CM Matty Palmer
CM Scott Robertson
LWB Jodi Jones
CAM Dan Crowley
ST Cedwyn Scott
ST Alassana Jatta

the bench is going to look much stronger tho, with a few places being harder to decide from. it does give stuart maynard plenty of options.

i think it will be a mix between @Chris and @ARLukomski suggestions.

As I wasn't around between 1879 -1950, that Badge is New to Me. I'm only familiar with the more current Badges.  I like the idea of a Crown being incorporated back into the England Badge Design. If I have a Scottish Counterpart he must have been Lived with the 2012-2013 England Badge of three Red Lions. Because the Scottish Badge is a Single Red   Lion Rampant (on it's hind legs) looking forward on a Gold Background (depicted as Yellow on the Badge) with a double Red Boarder, and that has been around for many a Year.

Thanks for Up Loading the Pictures @Chris I can now up date my Knowledge. If I only knew how to upload photos to the Site I'd show PON Members what the Real England Badge should look like.

@Wheelbarrow repair man: Where you type your comments, you should see a paper-clip icon. Drag an attachment into it or choose to upload a file.

Once uploaded, you will see a + button to add it to your comment.

(Same for mobiles and handheld devices, it's just a little different)

Alternatively, use https://imgur.com/

Then click the embed options, copy the URL and paste that into the text field followed by enter (it can do it without but might take a bit longer).

Thankyou once again @Chris I'll let my Son have a look  at this, because I haven't Got A Clue about what you've said. I am Totally Ignorant regarding Computer Stuff, but hopefully my Lad will Sort it out.

That I'm afraid is my Answer To Everything Technology wise. Son what's this Mean? 

@RetroPie

There's no need to buy a New Wheelbarrow, if you just need a New Wheel. Undo the fixing bolts and remove the washer tubes.

Getting the right size wheel measure the wheel diameter, that's from one edge of the wheel tyre to the other. Measure the hub length the spindle which goes through the wheel. And measure the Hub Bore Diameter. The hole in the middle of the wheel.

A Wheelbarrow wheel expert (found at Garden Centres)  some shops which sell Wheelbarrows may have an expert  who will help you choose the correct type of  bearing for your wheel. Best Tyre Patten to use is the Ribbed Pattern as this causes minimal build up of mud Ideal for your garden or allotment. Hope this Helps.

The old one’s rusted and fallen apart. I could replace the wheel, but the barrow wouldn’t move with it.

I’ve bought a new one from B&Q. This time, I’ll make sure it’s not exposed to the weather and is covered when not in use. The last one I had, well, it’s been with me longer than my eldest grandchild has been alive.

@RetroPie

There are several types of covers which fully cover Wheelbarrows, if you keep it outside. Alternately if you keep in a Shed or Garage, to save space you could Always Hang it on a Wall. Plenty videos on You tube to show you how.

Lee Carsley is the only real candidate I am bothered about, Eddie Howe should be left to continue with Newcastle. If he can gain a bit more experience, he would be a good choice. The rest of the English managers are lacklustre, Graham Potters shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the national team.

He's not the answer in my humble opinion.

@Chris

Promoting from within doesn't always work, look at Steve Maclaren. Southgate did well with the U21's  and he could handle the Step Up, but Carsley May find the Step Up to bigger a Gap or take to it like a Duck to Water. I know Carsley has had success with the U21's but The Best Thing would be is make him Interim Manager , that way  the F.A. and the Fans will have an idea how Carsley acts under Pressure of being the National Teams Head Coach.

There's lots of chatter about Pep Guardiola being England Manager.

In my opinion it would be an unmitigated disaster if he were appointed.

The England Manager has to be home grown. The England Managers job is not just any old managers job. The person who holds the position is an important national figure.

The thing is @Robbie would the Referee given a Free Kick if the incident had  happened on the Halfway Line?  At first he didn't give the Penalty and only consulted VAR afterwards. So he may well have viewed the Foul (on the Halfway Line) as he had first viewed the Penalty and Not Given It.

The thing is with Incidents like this happening all the time in Football it's subjected to  a matter of different opinions to different people, many will see it as a Penalty while others won't. But when it comes down to it VAR  decided it was a Penalty and England scored from the Resulting Spot Kick, then went on to Grab a late Winner, which put them in Todays Final. And No amount of  Was it Wasn't It Talk Is going to Change That.

@Wheelbarrow repair man

That's just the point, opposing fans will always disagree on the award of a penalty. England got the decision because the VAR officials thought it was a penalty.

I'm happy we got th decision, I'm just sceptical about how VAR has changed anything. Offsides are ok. We know what VAR judges as an offside, a toenail in front. We know what handball is too 

But with fouls it's still down to interpretation of the officials operating VAR.

They may as well leave it to the on field Ref to make the decision regarding foul play in the penalty area.

On 14/07/2024 at 13:25, DangerousSausage said:

Aren't most fouls unintentional accidents @Fan of Big Tone? They're still fouls. 

I’m uncertain, but it appears that most fouls these days are cynical challenges. They seem to be committed with the intention of preventing teams from playing or disrupting their momentum.

@Robbie

Donnarumma of Italy and Mamardashvilli of Georgia can feel unlucky not to have been selected ahead of Maignan. But I'm guessing they based it more on who got further in the tournament. 

No surprise to see those Spanish players in there, they fully deserve it. Especially Fabian, he was excellent during the tournament. Him and Olmo were players of the tournament for me. 

Kyle Walker had a good tournament, unfortunately his only bad game was in the final. Guehi can feel hard done to to have not made it in this squad, for a first major tournament and given our defence was deemed our weakest link he was solid throughout. 

5 hours ago, liampie said:

nobody else from the england team deserves to be listed.

Guehi?

I know it's not in the spirit of it but they could've just picked the Spanish starting 11, I know they won but they way they did it and the teams they beat was very impressive indeed!

I really liked Füllkrug the German No.9, a bit of a old-school forward, Havertz got picked instead of him a lot but every time he came off the bench he did really well. Ardu Guler, the very young Turkish playmaker added some real quality to their side. 

And it was strange how the big stars of the tournament like De Bruyne, Mbappé, Lewandowski and Ronaldo all had pretty poor showings.

Marc Guehi deserves to be named; he played far better than Kyle Walker. Walker had a good tournament, but there were elements of his game where he wasn't at his best - at 34, you expect this.

Marcel Sabitzer and Georges Mikautadze would have made my team of the tournament; both players did well for their respective countries. Spain had a very good campaign, but some of their players are only being named because they made the final and won. Some did well but don't deserve to be selected ahead of others.

At least now, it seems we’re making progress. Reaching the final after poor performances speaks volumes. While we may not have won, I believe we have a good chance of growing stronger. England, like Germany, France, Italy, and Spain, will always have times when they bow out too early.

I've got this match on DVD and have watched it numerous times. It's in black and white but I feel like it's the only way to watch it. My personal preference is to watch it in black and white rather than in colour.

I have seen the footage numerous times. When I was younger, I felt amazed when I first watched the game in colour. As all the footage before was shown in black and white.

Here's a great read about what happened to the shirts after the final whistle had blown - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-63703479

@super_ram likes to tell me, that England lost to Scotland in the very next game after the World Cup final.  

ha haha!

i love how the magpie is calm enough to act like its not even following the cat, if the cat did not react it might not be as funny and i do wonder what the magpie was aiming to do if this was the case.

Cats generally don’t appreciate being pursued, and I wager it was wondering what this silly magpie was up to. I suspect the bird was merely being playful and might have pecked at the cat’s tail given the opportunity, perhaps to instigate a chase.

Although they might be considered natural adversaries, it’s surprising how some can exhibit playful behaviour towards each other.

Great video! Very funny that neither animal detected they were being watched/filmed. It caught something that you might not get to see otherwise.

There's a squarrel that lives near my home, which is very funny.

It does lapse of my front fence as part of its exercise, almost as if it was like the TV 'Wipeout' but without the water. One time it was doing it, I was sat in the living room looking out at the front garden and noticed there was a black cat stalking it. The Squarrel didn't bother, it just continued doing a circuit of the fence.

The cat thought it was being clever by climbing the fence which is to the street, it was acting like it was just minding its own business.

The Squarrel continued to run round the fences and along the front of my house, as it approached the cat, the cat jumped into the front garden again acting as if it was doing its own thing. The moment the squarrel reached the point where the cat had been, the cat jumped up and squarrel had reacted ahead, pushing itself up right and performing a martial art kick which would have been befitting to a scene from 'The Last Dragon'.

It stunned the cat, and it flew off the fence. The Squarrel remained in an alert position but soon went off. The cat eventually jumped back onto the fence and acted like its pride had been hurt.

I’m in agreement with @liam. Unless there’s a robust alternative for Gareth Southgate, I’m uncertain about the merit of any changes. Ultimately, the decision rests with the FA. Supporters should hope that Gareth Southgate is better prepared to field the appropriate players.

My take is that unless Southgate decides himself that it is time to go, he will stay as England manager because the FA like him and he is their type of Manager.

What is their type of Manager, he is a yes man that does what he is told, & does not rock the boat at FA headquarters?

He is also a manager that the players will like, because they know that their place in the side is virtually secure, because Southgate won't rock the team boat so much by making many changes.

It was clear to everyone else, apart from Southgate, that when the substitutions were made, England improved & they became more dangerous to the opposition.

So why didn't Southgate make changes and play those substitutes from the start in the next game?

Because in my opinion, Southgate was either incapable of or just didn't want to rock the team boat & upset what he looked upon were the senior England players.

And that is Southgate's big failing in my opinion.

Personally, I think Gareth Southgate did the right thing by stepping down. He's done well in his role, but the division between England fans and this past tournament performance despite making the final just hasn't been to standard.

I would have been happy had he decided to remain in the position, but I think he knows that not all of his ideas on what makes England click are right. I also wouldn't be surprised if some of the attitude he has had made him feel he needed to step down on a high. It's sad, because some of the nonsense directed towards him isn't needed.

Using sporting events as a reason to give another human abuse is just outright wrong.

Unfortunately, it leaves me feeling disinterested and of the belief that the FA will struggle to find a suitable appointment that will please the majority of England fans. It's going to be a tough task, Lee Carsley wouldn't be a bad call, but I don't know much about his style of management.

The club should invariably take precedence over the country. Any individual who prioritises England over Notts may not be as fervent a fan as most ought to be. If you’re a Notts supporter from England, you should consistently support your country. However, I believe it would be debatable for a fan to place them ahead of Notts.

I just feel that the England side will always be at a disadvantage the way that the PL is allowing so many foreign players to dominate our top league, when Countries like Spain & Germany favour their home grown players as a percentage of their Premier League squads.

1999-2004/5 I was very England focused, more so than Notts.

It was difficult after my grandfather died to get to Notts games, still at school. I mostly checked on scores for Notts, but I wasn't as focused on them. I would watch Match of the Day religiously, and it was something we did as a family. Admittedly, I was still very much into Arsenal at this stage. So, England was an easy way to watch football, and we had big names that gave me the hope that we could do well in a major tournament.

Not that the golden generation ever delivered this, but it was great seeing the likes of David Beckham, Steven Gerrard, Alan Shearer etc.

I used to also always wear my England coat, and/or shirts.

Now I am more focused on Notts, as I have aged I realise that football is more enjoyable to have that belief but to find more enjoyment from league football. So, I would choose Notts easily over England, but I care about them both.

the articles from 2003? so what was the final outcome?

it sounds like notts had some people involved that knew how to bend things to their favour, not many fans i know speak that well of darren caskey though.

I liked Darren Caskey, fans more knowledgable of his time at Notts always make me laugh when they tell me about him. Though, I thought he was a good footballer. I can't say I have seen him play for us many times though.

Also, I remember this but never really dived into it.

its just wrong, to officiate a game and then celebrate with the winners. unbiasedness goes out of the window when this happens, as i could not trust someone who had done this to make the right calls in the game. then again, referees do love the limelight.

I think it was Russell Howard who joked about this awhile ago, when it was being reported. It's a silly thing to do, which issuing a ban is the right thing. Officials aren't there to be part of the celebrations or to even be in any sort of spotlight.

There have been referees and assistants who have asked players for selfies, this is also something which shouldn't happen during officiating games.

Fans need to be able to trust that there's no unbiasedness and act professional.

Goodison Park is a fantastic Premier League stadium, and it will be a pity to see it fade into obscurity. Everton’s new stadium looks impressive, but its location appears to be an afterthought. I suspect it won’t be easy to leave after matches. It’s situated in a somewhat secluded area that will be crowded on game days. New stadiums should aim to avoid traffic issues. That being said, it does seem to be a beautiful setting otherwise.

it looks incredible but i think its a sad day when a club moves from something traditional to a ground that is not quite the same. in the future if we do this, i hope we would base the design on what we have in some way as a tribute to the former ground.

Amazing location and design of the stadium, but I do echo the comments about traditional grounds like Goodison Park being missed.

Imagine watching a night game in the Premier League.

It looks amazing!

Oh dear. Goal to Wealdstone.

Wealdstone 1 Notts 2

Another win for Notts in the pre season friendlies.

A bit disjointed in the second half after the substitutions, but very good in the first half.

Nice to see Jatta scoring, let’s hope he carries on where Langstaff left off and bags loads of goals.

Gareth Southgate has spoken twice about stepping down, although going into the Euros - it seemed likely that he would be standing by his word. I find it quite saddening because whilst he's not been perfect, he got the squad resembling a team we could be proud of. This tournament wasn't the best, perhaps the players knew? I can't suggest all the poor performances could have been down to nerves, wanting to end Southgate's reign as well as possible, but I would be mindful of it.

I don't think who takes over next has much to do, but at the same time I don't have much enthusiasm that we'll be able to see who could come in.

Most likely it will be a lacklustre appointment, I mean the candidates link already leaves me feeling like this.

3 minutes ago, Chris said:

Most likely it will be a lacklustre appointment

Wouldn't put it past the FA to do exactly this. 

4 minutes ago, Chris said:

I find it quite saddening because whilst he's not been perfect, he got the squad resembling a team we could be proud of.

He may be tactically inept and his in game management as well as loyalty to players can be at fault for him not being able to get us over the line but this is why I'm glad it was his decision to part ways because of, as I've mentioned previously, how he's galvanised the team from rock bottom to getting fans cheering again and having a team to be proud of. 

7 minutes ago, Chris said:

I don't think who takes over next has much to do

Southgate has laid the foundations for someone to come in who can actually deliver and get us over the line.

I had to post this one.

It's funny but right on the ball too 

When it comes down to it, it is mindset. 

England when behind, had attacked the Spanish goal to get back on terms, but once they had equalised, the England team, became cautious & negative once again.

If you can sum up an England team under the Southgate Managership this would be it.

It looks to me that Southgate is pushing this philosophy of safety first when drawing or in front, because for example, after Spain scored their second goal, England started attacking Spain again & nearly equalised when a header was cleared off the line in the last minute.

Like I've said before, Southgate lacks boldness and this mindset spreads to the England players in how they play, when they are in front, or when they are drawing, compared to being behind.

That's why I feel England will never win a tournament under Southgate.

It’s reasonable for teams to spend the initial 10-20 minutes of a match trying to figure each other out. I felt the game against Spain was relatively open during the first half. Whatever Luis de la Fuente said at half time seemed to make a difference, as they emerged with a better understanding of how to create opportunities against us. In contrast, England started the second half in the same manner and quickly found themselves under pressure.

In my view, Spain deserved the victory. They played some truly enjoyable football. However, I believe that if changes had been implemented earlier, England could have posed a greater threat. The decision to start Harry Kane, despite knowing he’s been immobile and struggling, seems questionable. But I can appreciate that he just needs one or two good opportunities to score. It might have made more sense to start Ollie Watkins instead of fielding two strikers.

Spain struggled with the long balls and faster direct play, which all changed once substitutions were made. Cole Palmer has been a refreshing presence in the short time he’s been on the pitch. Unfortunately, John Stones and Kyle Walker contributed to our downfall due to their lack of defensive mindset and awareness. Their awareness was not so much about cutting out the danger, but rather being caught out and unable to block what led to goals. I thought Stones was incredibly average, unlike Marc Guehi. He performed exceptionally well throughout the Euros, I felt.

@TheSkipper

Totally agree with the Marc Guehi comment. He's been quite possibly our best player this tournament and if he's not our best he's definitely in the conversation for being our best player of the tournament. Can't fault his displays.

Harry Kane should have been dropped 3 or 4 games before the final. He was not right all tournament, later on Southgate admitted he wasn't quite match fit going in to the tournament which begs the question why wasn't he subbed or dropped sooner?

Spain were open all tournament when they got attacked. Every game they played in and teams broke at them, their defence showed cracks that they could be got at but as @Robbie said we just sat back once we got level and that's been a key part of England under Southgate. People have been saying it was the players not applying themselves and going cautious on their own accord rather than Southgate instructing them but if that was the case, again as @Robbie said, Southgate has to be bolder and make the necessary changes to change the mentality and get them attacking again.