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Trophy - The Brewers (A)

Team: Burton Albion

Date: 24/09/2024

Where: Pirelli Stadium

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What line-up should Stuart Maynard opt for? What will be the key areas for the Magpies to get a victory? What do you think the final score will be?

Have your say below, join in with the Pride of Nottingham match discussion.

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  • We've been over this Time and Time Again Gentlemen/Ladies regarding the Notts Academy Players and their advancement into the Notts Senior Squad and then into the Starting XI. Does anyone Honestly believe that any of these players will get their Chance? I for one would like to think so, but over the Years Talented Young players just get Shipped Out on Loan to learn how to play Men's Football and then they're Never Heard from again, until the Contract is up and they're let go, or if they're Lucky Sold on for the elusive Undisclosed Fee.

    Kudos to Stuart for having the Belief in his Young players and having the Backbone, to play them during the Match, as it's been said they all must be on Cloud 9 today The Only thing to put a Dampner on things is, if he decides to repeat the Process and Notts get Thumped, then the Calls of does SM know what he's Doing playing all these young Kids? Why didn't play a Team who had a chance. Sure Most Members on Here couldn't be bothered about this Trophy saying it's a waste of time, and extra games Notts could do without but it's Great Opportunity for Stuart to Blood His Young Players, but a Big Defeat will start the Moaning Minnie's off Again. Personally I'll say Keep Doing What You're Doing Stuart.

    @Wheelbarrow repair manΒ Notts won last night didn't they? The academy players played very well

    Let's celebrate that.

    Stuart won't play five of them in a league match and put unnecessary pressure on them against a full strength opposition.

    Remember, Burton played a weakened team too, & only changed their tune when it looked liked they would lose the match.Β 

    Stuart will carefully manage all of those youngsters & I'm confident he will do that.

    Those youngsters worked damn hard last night, & deserved the all plaudits they all got.Β 

    I am pleased with the win. The EFL Trophy doesn’t mean much to me, but I am delighted that Stuart Maynard gave several youngsters a chance. They performed well, especially against more experienced players. Robbie Cundy doesn’t seem to be the best signing we’ve made.

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  • I normally always take a picture of the attendance that is shown on the scoreboard, yesterday, I didn't. It seems strange thinking back that I didn't, but then again, I stopped taking pictures after the Sam Austin goal was ruled out - possibly before that. I remember hearing the announcement, just not the amount.

    It could just be written off as the officials and frustration lead to the mistake, it's easily done. Maybe a note or message was given incorrectly? Upon reviewing my photos, I noticed that Meadow Lane appears bustling in areas that typically wouldn't see such activity, even with a crowd of 11,000.

    If Gillingham took just under 1000, leaving 4000 empty seats in the Sirrel stand, that means there'll have been just 1000 empty seats in the rest of the ground. It will have looked full and there wouldn't have been any empty sections at all.

    I'm far away in a sunny place so I really don't know, but the Lane has a habit of looking fuller than it actually is. But even 11,000 would be an outstanding crowd.Β 

Bad news for Notts. Curtis Edwards likely to be out until Xmas.

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  • Such a disappointing injury to see happen. I wouldn’t have thought he was injured until the club announced it. I think they wanted to beat the media rounds, but I am curious how long they knew he wouldn’t be coming back any time soon. It seems a bit of a while between Accrington, then Bromley, to now, even if they were waiting for the full results. I wish him well though; he’s been a great signing.

    At least we know it’s his ankle ligaments. Hopefully, it won’t be as punishing as damage to his muscles or a break would have been. When he comes back, he will continue to make a difference. He has impressed, and I thought we missed him against Gillingham.

Game 7 - The Gills (H)

Team: Gillingham

Date: 21/09/2024

Where: Meadow Lane



What line-up should Stuart Maynard opt for? What will be the key areas for the Magpies to get a victory? What do you think the final score will be?

Have your say below, join in with the Pride of Nottingham match discussion.

England's Harry Kane became the highest scoring Englishman in the German Bundesliga when he he scored his 41st goal for Bayern Munich against Werder Breman. Despite his goal scoring record both in the Premier League and now Bundesliga, why are a lot of English fans still harping on about the Guy has never won any Silverware. He may not have won any team trophies (as yet) but he certainly has a good collection of Golden Boot Awards, and his Goal scoring prowess is certainly up there with the Best.

It appears to me that should any England Star in Football (or any sport for that matter) become famous for any reason, becauseΒ  of their natural talent, the First thing the Main Stream Media (or Gutter Press) do is to set about knocking that Sports Star off the Pedestal they themselves put the Star on in the First Place. And this then trickles down to England fans who bombard Have Your Say comment sections with comments such has, Kane has never won anything with any Club he's played for. In Big Games he always goes missing. The same accusation was also pointed at Macca when he failed to score at Wembley, during Notts Playoff Final against Chesterfield. Let me remind those Fans Macca did score his Penalty, in the Shoot Out.

Harry Kane is his Country's All Time Top Scorer, in fact in one HYS section one Fan Wrote only One Man in recent times who has kept Kane Quiet, is Gareth Southgate!! Which is True, by playing him out of position and also playing him, while he's Not Fully Fit. Kane has proven play to his Strengths and he'll score Goals, something he still managed to do, even with Southgate's Poor Tactics.

Interestingly many Foreign Fans, Dutch, German, French and many others say they can not understand the Hate that comes Harry Kane's way, and that they would Love to have Kane in their National Side. And Kane Can Not Be Solely Blamed For England Not Winning Championship Finals, After All It Takes Eleven Team Members To Win A Match. So lets all Celebrate the success of an Englishman abroad and show our Pride as Harry continues to Cain Em in Germany.

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  • I don't think the Hate for Harry Kane is because of the way he speaks. It strikes me that the Hatred begins with the Main Stream Media. The Incredible pressure the England Football team is put under (both the Lions and Lionesses) is nothing short of Crazy. Look at the England Women's Team, they win the Euro's and Everything is Brilliant our Girls show England are Europe's Best. Then they have a couple of Not So Good Results and Out Come the Main Stream Media's Knifes. That Hatred then Trickles Down to Fans who were only a few months before Singing the Team's Praises, this then turns into Rants about Certain Players, the Head Coach and her Staff.

    Not being on any of the (Anti) Social Media Platforms I Don't Know if the Hatred for the way Harry Kane speaks evolved on there. There just seems to be a Dislike for the Guy on Have Your Say sections, such has on the B.B.C,'s on line Football Section. Why doesn't Kane score goals for England when he scores Goals for his Club. Why is it in all Important Matches Kane goes Missing, Etc Etc. Most of these Questions are penned by So Called Journalists, then they're picked Up by Fans and the Poison begins to Spread. Then it gets out of Control. There's plenty of reasons why Harry may have failed, the Biggest One is Gareth Southgate. A reason all England Fans should Now Be Aware Of.

    As it already been Stated David Beckham is a Thicko. No he's Not. You Don't earn Millions of Pounds, become an Ambassador for your Country and try and help that Country secure the World Cup or Euro's Finals and become part owner of a Major MLS Club by being as Thick As Two Short Planks. How did it come about David Beckham, was Thick? Oh Yeah. He once Stated that he didn't understand one of Brooklyn'sΒ  home work Math's Questions. The Gutter Press get hold of it and come to the Conclusion, because he didn't understand the question, well that Means Only One Thing. Becks Must Be Thick. And the Fans lap it up, it's in the Press so it Must Be Right, and all these years later it's still banded about. Yet the type of question was never stated, Was it about Algebra? Who on this site Knows what "X" means? Or "B" to the Power of "C" = 35 over "D" It's all Nonsense and I Don't Care, but because I'm Not a Millionaire Footballer, or a Famous Film Star or Singer, who in the Press Gives a S**t? NOBODY.

    Look how quickly Macca has gone from hero to villain in just a few months since his moveΒ 

    What the press & the keyboard warriors forget is that a good or very good striker cannot do it all in his own. He needs a good supply route from good players around him, He needs to know his team mates well, & have a good understanding with them.

    Another thing is the playing style of the team which can effect goal scoring opportunities, or how the striker is expected to play within that team.

    It's sometimes hard to go from one club to another, or from club football to international football, with a different style or types of players in the team.

    Most critics don't even think about things like that.

Who's your Notts man of the match v Gillingham? 46 members have voted

  1. 1. Choose your man of the match for Notts.

    • Dan Crowley
      8
    • Nick Tsaroulla
      0
    • Jacob Bedeau
      27
    • David McGoldrick
      0
    • Jodi Jones
      5
    • Lewis Macari
      4
    • Matty Platt
      2

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Poll closed on 22/09/24 at 17:00

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Please choose your man of the match from my shortlist.

Can you describe why you choose your Notts player?

My shortlist is.

Jacob Bedeau:Β Matty Platt:Β Lewis Macari:Β David McGoldrick:Β Nick Tsaroulla:Β Jodi Jones:Β Dan CrowleyΒ 

Good morning all, it’s a bright start but a bit cool first thing. Another start to the week and it will be a busy one for us as we make least minute preparations for our holiday.

Today we’ve got to collect some euros we did a click and collect from Morrisons which is quite convenient.Β 

Then we’ll be sorting out our holiday clothes ready for the big day on Thursday.

Most players who remain fit and healthy will more or less Retire from the game in their mid 30's. However how long can a Manager carry on? Does he carry on for his Love of the Game? Does carry on because of his success, or Does He Carry on just for the Money? The appointment of Steve Bruce at the age 63 as the New Head Coach at Blackpool, lots of his critics will say the lastΒ  for the Money, but interestingly, ( Yes the money is a motivation) but according to Bruce, he'd tried Retirement, and he didn't like it and a lot of Retirees feel the same.

Awhile back I wrote a Piece entitled In Praise Of Dinosaurs (bet you'd forgotten) about Managers in their 60's and 70's who I felt could still do a job, particularly some like Neil Warnock, who's vast Experience I thought could help Stuart Maynard adapt to becoming a full time Head Coach. I think the idea was mainly Poo Pooed, so how long should it be, before a Manager will say Enough is Enough?

Studying present Managers in their 60's it would seem Carlo Ancelotti is perhaps the most successful, winning the Champions League at 65. David Moyes also won a Trophy with West Ham while in his 60's an another successful 61 year old is Jose Mourinho and Alex Ferguson was still at the Top of the Management Game at 72.Β  Speaking of Neil Warnock who at the Age of 75 is the elder statesman of Managers/Head Coaches on the active list he's still prepared to listen to offers from a Club, despite his age. However it would seem only Clubs in Dire Straights with the threat of Relegation hanging over their Heads, will approach likes of Neil Warnock. And perhaps the same can be said of his Fellow Ex- Notts County Manager Sam Allardyce who is 69. Of all the most successful Managers at 53 Pep is the baby of the bunch, so if he feels like it, he could still have another 10 years plus at the Top, the thing is will he want too? At Club level he's won just about everything there is on offer, how long before he turns round and utters the words Enough is Enough and retires from the Game? Jurgen Klopp seems to have had Enough and retired at the age of 57, perhaps Klopp may make a comeback as the German National Coach, is that all that's left for Pep? Success as the Head Coach of a National Side? Maybe England?

So there's a few questions for my fellow PON Members to get their teeth into, so what do you think, when is it the Time for a Manager/Head Coach to call time on his Career?

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    I always think thatΒ  footballΒ  people like Warnock, Big Sam & Steve have something to give to a Football club if each of them want to give something.

    I think Warnock or Big Sam are good at coming into a struggling club to try to turn things around on a temporary basis.

    I always thought that Steve Bruce retired too early, but does a football manager really retire? Not sure about that.

    Also the fee that the likes of Sam & Neil can expect will also be a factor on whether they take a job or not.

    I also think that Neil & Sam have along with a few others, become Mr fixers, who comes in to a club to try to save a club from relegation.Β 

    It's a win win scenario for them. If they fail, they still get paid, if they save the club, I'm sure there's a bonus penned in their somewhere.

    These old type of Managers who want to be sole in charge are becoming smaller & smaller. When these two guys do decide to retire, I don't think we will see their like again.

    The new way is to have a Head Coach who just deals with the team. The organisation of a club is managed by others.

    I think the day of the old type Manager & Mr Fixers will disappear into the sunset.

    I have never held Steve Bruce in high regard. He's a 50-second manager and once his spark runs out - it all falls down hill. He's pretty average at best, but it's stopping new managers coming in. Which affects football, especially from the international front. We won't have good English managers making that step up into the Premier League, but there are dead beats already taking the positions, being fired and restarting. It might sound harsh, but there are people, just like Bruce, who just need to leave the game now.

    Bruce used to rely on loans from Manchester United, Darren Ferguson is a decent manager, but even he used his dad to establish his career by loaning United players.Β 

    There will never be a manager age limit cap though, but just as in the U.S. are seeing with their presidency - it could be a good idea.

    managers used to disappear once they were of a certain age and it paved its way for new ones to come up. just like players, there are obvious signs when a player should retire. i think its the same for most managers, i mean for every neil warnock who can help stabilise a team, there no hopers who are just used as @ChrisΒ mentioned for their reputation and contacts. i think 65 is the point where clubs should seriously think is this person good enough.

    if they are, great but if not, just retire.

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DISCOVERING your favourite snack has been taken off shelves can be genuinely disappointing.This week it was revealed that soft drinkLiltha

Can you add any other items that have been discontinued that you miss or liked?

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  • @Robbie

    You can still get Caramac Buddy. I bought one from my local Bargain Buys store a few weeks ago, if you have a Bargain Buys store near you, go and have a look, you just might get a nice surprise.

    Things I Miss from when I was a Kid which you don't see very often in Shops. Mojo chews, Fruit Salad Chews, Black Jack Chews all costing one old penny for four Chews. Spangles, Lucky Bags, Sherbet Dib Dabs or fountains. Liquorice Sticks (they were that hard you could break your teeth on them.) There's bound to be more, but I'll have to think about them. This Topic could end up like your Quirky TV Series from the 60's & 70's.

    There was a period where "Wham bars" were quite hard to get hold of. I think it was more a supply issue, but I love them. I can't think of anything from the top of my head snack or sweet wise that no longer exists.

    I really miss the Brtivic 55 drinks.

    Again, it seems a supplier thing but very few pubs sell it and I don't know of any supermarkets that do.

    Something that has been discounted twice, the second time less success than the first and what was largely down to poorer taste.

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    The berry, orange and apple flavours were also heavily when they first released them.

    On 19/09/2024 at 17:39, Wheelbarrow repair man said:

    @Robbie

    You can still get Caramac Buddy. I bought one from my local Bargain Buys store a few weeks ago, if you have a Bargain Buys store near you, go and have a look, you just might get a nice surprise.

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    After being discontinued in November 2023 NestlΓ© is bringing back the Caramac bar, but only for a limited time

    If something you like is being discontinued, beat the scrappers and resellers by buying a supply long enough to last a nuclear war. Then you should be good to go! I can’t think of anything I really like that no longer exists either, but if it were to happen, I would become Tallahassee from Zombieland. No idea who that character is? Have a Google! Woody Harrelson will be your friend during any zombie outbreak.

With a much stronger Notts County Squad this season, would you like to see a long FA Cup run?

Man City or Man U & Co at Meadow Lane in the 3rd Round would be mouthwatering & a money spinner with the large crowd & TV revenue.

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  • Yes!

    Swansea was the last time in the FA Cup we faced Premiership team (just ignore the replay). I’d love another game against a big team, I can pretty much remember all our big draw FA Cup ties in recent history. We’ve had some great ties and the Man City one is up there as one of my all time favourite games at the Lane.

    Yes, it would be nice after the past seasons of not being able to generate a good cup run to finally have one again. Notts would benefit from it, so it’s positive more than negative. The only concern is potential injuries, but it means more minutes for players which could be good.

    If that’s the case, I’d prefer an away game because I’ve always been too young to go to some of the bigger cup games we’ve had. Playing big teams at Meadow Lane is great, but it would only change my mind if it was a really big team.

After posing a Question about the Great Jimmy Sirrel.Β 

I've decided to ask one Regarding Notts County's all time Top Scorer Less Bradd.

That being Do you think Les's Record of 125 League Goals, will ever be Beaten?

I know Macca had a Good Go., in the two seasons he was at the Lane. Les of course scored 137 goals in 398 games for the Magpies. Tony Hateley is 2nd on the list with114 goals in 215 games. Jackie Sewell scored 104 goals one more goal than Tommy Lawton's 103 but it took him 193 matches compared to Tommy's 166. Finally rounding off the Top 5 all time Notts scorers Tom Keetley scored an Amazing 98 Goals in 110 matches. That My Fellow PON Members is one Hell of a Strike Rate. ( All Data from Google Search and Wiki Pedia)

It does make you think how many Goals Macca may have scored, if he'd have seen out the New Contract he signed for the Magpies prior to his Move to Millwall. And you never know, he just Might, Might Return to the Lane One Day.

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The Magpies get their pre-season campaign under way with a game against the non-league side as the build-up to the big kick-off gets under way

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The only one to make it, now at Northampton

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PL clubs are always going on about fixture congestion. They always play their 2nd string in early League Cup & FA Cup Matches.They ensured FA Cup replays were discontinued due to what they claimed was fixture congestion.They prioritise the PL & the big PL Clubs concentrate on the European competitions.

But it hasn't stopped them pushing for a new competition, the National League Cup, which isΒ a 32 team midweek competition, comprising 16 under-21 teams participating in Premier League 2, and 16 first teams from clubs participating in the National League.

Some NL clubs have already pulled out. Barnet, Eastleigh, Solihull & Southend have decided not to take up their places, withΒ Dagenham & Redbridge, Wealdstone, Woking and EbbsfleetΒ taking their place.

I see this as PL clubs just wanting this competition for the sake of their under 21 teams to give their players more game time, & it strikes of hypocrisy.

I'd rather see FA Cup replays reintroduced rather than this new competition that won't make any money for National League sides, & will add another 4 to 7 games on their fixture list.

When I first started watching Notts they had 11 players & 1 sub only in a game. Pitches became very poor & bare during the winter, & the tackles used to fly in too.

Players became injured but not to the extent that we see today. There could be many reasons for this.

The game is faster now, players do more running around, & they are required to employ the high press, which requires more energy which together, puts strain on ankles, knees, muscles & ligaments.

The game is a squad game now where more players are used in a game. Medical monitoring has advanced where injuries can be detected much earlier, whereas in the past players would play on with niggles & injuries undetected.

There are more games played too, compared to the past. The way the game is played has changed to, with teams employing a passing game, rather than a direct style.

Training has become more rigourous, with players required to be much fitter compared to those players in the past., hence players getting injured during training.

So is it a case that players of yesteryear were much tougher than those of today or are the increase in injuries just down to the rigours of the modern game, the way it is played, what is expected of a player now & the improvement in injury detection?

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  • It’s an interesting question, one I am unsure about what could be the cause. I do think training has become more demanding, that is a fair point, but at the same time, looking after players has improved. Pitches are much better these days, no longer resembling mud pools, but we still have awful ones like Bradford’s sandy pitch. It does make you wonder.

    Now I never saw football in the 80s or earlier but my dad usually reminds me of all these great players from back in the day and which of them he was fortunate to meet and most of these stories have one thing in common – they all met in the pub!

    Football was a totally different sport in a way, I would guess the level of fitness was on a different level and that players were rarely pushed to their limits, unlike the players of today. Players these days are like finely tuned machines, they train a lot more, they play more games and are basically pushed to their maximums.

    I think it’s also worth noting that even before players make it as professionals, they’ll have played loads of games and trained regularly in academies – again almost in the same way as pros do. I think a good few years ago there was a bit of research done by arsenal looking into why their academy players who had graduated to the first team suffered so many injuries and it was do with young players in academies effectively playing too much football. At a young age bodies aren't fully developed and picking up injuries at this time can make you more sceptical to picking up injuries again the future.

    @menzinho the point about the academies is spot on, i would agree with this having an impact on some players. i would say that there is an art to tackling, which is becoming harder to see these days. mind in the 80s i am surprised more injuries was not caused with some of the thugs on the pitch.

Of Whom am I speaking? Most PON Members will know or have an idea.

Could Notts County's Greatest Ever Manager Jimmy SirrelΒ  be a Success in the Modern Game?

If he was alive today do you my fellow PON Members, think the Great Jimmy Sirrel would be able to Adopt to the way the Game is Now Played and bring Promotion to the Lane? Or do you think he was a Product of the Era in which he Managed and Modern Football wouldn't be his Cup of Tea?

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  • I have no doubt Jimmy could have been a successful league manager in his time. He might even have been able to get an underdog team into the Premier League, but I think his most success would come within the EFL. He knew how to get players performing and was a strong speaker who had high expectations. He wouldn’t settle for anything less than commitment from his players. This makes me think he would be successful to a degree.

    I can see him being more of a head coach than an actual manager, and I think he would be fantastic at it. He knows what it takes to make players perform together. His hands-on approach in training should earn the respect of players. He’s knowledgeable and had a great understanding of how teams played.

    Certainly, I feel he could have adapted to be a very good head coach in modern football. To what extent? I am not sure, but I think there’s no denying the qualities that Jimmy Sirrel had.

    I think he could be a very good league manager in this day and age, football has come along way, but he had the skills when times were hard. I think the fact that money is used more freely now, and I know we paid good fees for players, but Jimmy worked with mostly what he had and added to that.

    This in my opinion would see him do well in the modern game, as he could get the best out of academy players but also use his knowledge of players to suggest who to bring in. A model like the one we currently have at Notts would allow Jimmy Sirrel to truly thrive.

    The only reason Brian Clough failed with the development of the Premier League, was solely due to his age. No doubt, a lot of past managers had the skills to do well in the modern game, they transfer over quite easily.

Kenneth Cope, died yesterday. He was one of the Stars, (Hopkirk) of the quirky TV series Randall & Hopkirk (deceased)

It was a TV drama/ Comedy series of the 60s, a mixture of drama & humour typical of these TV series in the 60s & 70s.

It was one of my favourite shows being in my early teenage years.

Did you have a favourite bygone TV series or maybe a series that's more modern?

Here's a clip from the first episode of Randall & Hopkirk after Hopkirk had become a Ghost.

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  • I grew up loving all comedies and sitcoms, especially things like Bewitched. I used to watch them with someone very dear, who would take breaks between working to watch certain shows at times.

    The Munsters are one of my all-time favourites.

    A while ago, probably around 2008. I was given Β£10 to buy a present back, I tended not to be bothered about this after my teens. The same person I mentioned previously, very stubborn when determined, wouldn't take no for an answer and insisted I at least looked. I discovered in the long-lost Herrick Watson at the top of "Chip Alley." the complete box set of The Munsters.

    Β£6.99 absolute bargain, I remember looking up the price on Amazon and seeing it for Β£12.99.

    It's now one of my most favourite box sets, which I cherish now. It's a shame the coloured antics of Batman & Robin killed The Munsters off. :(

    @Chris

    The Munsters now there's a program I enjoyed, as you have said it was the Studio who refused to produce the program in Colour helped Kill off the Series. Several attempts were made to revive it under New Titles such as The Munsters Today and show the Series in Colour, but with a different cast, but it just wasn't the same, like many reboots or spinoffs of certain Programs It Just Died The Death.

    Rob Zombie released a film a few years back. I haven't seen it, but I was 50/50 on it. The trailer looked really cheesy, but some of the scenes I did see over time did look amusing. I just don't think it could ever be the same. The Addams Family has always done well to recast the family, well maybe not the family in NetFlix's "Wednesday" but the 90s and TV series before are classic.

    Back to The Munsters, they shot the pilot in colour, but it just seemed so much better in black & white. I get how it lost some of its charm in colour; the biggest issue was the decline in ratings.

So we come to the penultimate game of the County Championship Division 1 season.

Notts are periously close to falling into the bottom two. They certainly need a good result here.

Notts will Bat first after Kent won the toss and elected to bowl.

Notts need a good start here.

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Several weeks ago I wrote a Piece about the Magpie, the Bird which now adorns the Club Badge of our Favourite Football Club Notts County. That topic touched on the Famous Rhyme about the Magpie, the Birds habits and it's life in General. In this second part I'm going to delve deeper in the Rhyme.

One for Sorrow the title of the rhyme was originally much shorter and in areas where Magpie numbers were scarcer the Rhyme was said of other birds, such as Crows,( the Bird family which the Magpie is apart of) there were only seven and not 10 ten parts of the Rhyme. In a supplement by written by Samuel Johnson and George Stephens about the plays of William Shakespeare in1778Β  theΒ  One for Sorrow was even shorter, being One for Sorrow, Two for Mirth, Three for a Wedding, Four for Death.

Interestingly there have been similarΒ  Rhymes such as Once a Wish Twice a Kiss, Threes a letter Four is something better, however this Rhyme was based on how many times a Person Sneezed. The One for Sorrow Rhyme didn't appear in print until the 18th Century. In the 16th and 17th Centuries the Rhyme came more to the fore during the Witch hunts of that Era. This was because the Magpie who is an highly Intelligent Bird and people believed the Magpie was thought to be Witches or their Familiar in Disguise.

The Plumage of the Magpie was also a problem. With the White being for Purity and Holiness, while the Black marking stood for EvilΒ  and the Devil which Corrupted the Good White markings. It as also been stated the Magpie never entered Noah's Ark instead in sat on it's roof laughing at the World as it Drowned. In Scottish Folk Law every Magpie is considered Evil and it was Declared every Magpie carried a Drop of the Devil's Blood under it's Tongue. Finally when the Magpie Rhyme came into print in the 1800'sΒ  along with the first 7 parts, 8, 9 and 10 were added. Eight for Heaven, Nine for Hell and Ten for the Devil's Own Self.

Yet another shorter version read One for Anger, Two for Mirth, Three for a Wedding, Four for a Birth, Five for Rich, Six for Poor, Seven for a Witch I can tell you No More. To counter the curse of a Single Magpie (I stated this in my first piece0 Is to Spit on the ground or say Good Morning Mr Magpie how are the wife and kids, thus giving the impression of more than one Magpie and his Bad Luck. The Final way to end a Single Magpie's Bad Luck Curse, is to make the sign of the Cross and say I Cross the Magpie, the Magpie Crosses Me, Bad Luck to the Magpie, Good Luck to Me.

Well there you have it part Two of the Much Maligned Magpie. Still Going To Follow Notts With Their Evil Bird Badge?????

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  • It would seem many types of Bird are associated with Bad Omens and Death. Even the humble Pigeon. It's said in some Cultures that if a Pigeon lands on the Roof of your dwelling and starts it's Ruh-ruh-ruh call it's the sign of ill luck or Death approaching. Owls have also been tared with the Death Brush, but this is mainly due to their Hunting at Dusk and towards Night time. Some Owls also Roost in the Trees of Cemeteries and their calls are said to call up the Spirits of the Dead.Β 

    In Medieval Europe Crows and Ravens were omens of Death and were believed to be Messengers between the Living and the Dead. And yet in Norse Mythology the All Father Odin Chief amongst the Norse Gods had two Ravens Huginn (Thought) and Muninn (Memory) who flew round the World of Man and listened to his talk and told Odin of Man's worries and with this information the God could help Man to Learn and Grow.

    It's also been Stated that should you find a Dead Bird in your Garden that is also a Sign of Bad Luck or Death. Thankfully we now live in a more informed World and these SuperstitionsΒ  are put aside by Most People.

    i remember hearing that crows were meant to steal souls. i dont know much else, never really looked into it but i have heard many people claim it.

    this is different, but its the only thing i can find. i have heard this version to, but i do remember reading a story in a book of horror tales where it said not to trust them with your soul.

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    The Crow is also a Bird associated with Death and in some cultures it accompanies their Death Icons. Charon the Boatman who ferries the Souls of the Dead across the River Styx has a Crow. As does the Morrigu an heavily Vailed Old Woman (to cover her Rotting Flesh), who Grants wishes, but be careful what you wish for, because it is said she Grants wishes but takes the words literally. For example it is said a young wife lost her Loving husband in an accident, heart broken she asked the Morrigu to return her husband to her as he was before he died. This the Morrigu granted however when the Husband came back to life, it was just before he died, and he spent his time Screaming and Crying out in Agony from the pain of his injuries which caused his Death.

    There was of course the Film the Crow, where Brandon Lee (Son of Martial Arts Expert and Film Star Bruce Lee) was accidently Killed on the Film's set. And there is a Native American Tribe Called the Crow People, who's name when Translated from their Language means, the People of the Big Beaked Bird.

One of the best players that every played for Notts.

He was a leader, he was influential, he was a role model he bossed our midfield, he scored goals. Every Notts side was built around him.

He was loyal. He left for pastures new, but he came back.

He played in all four divisions for Notts. He's an Icon, & a Notts County great.

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  • @liampieΒ Dixie only played 9 times for us that season. According to Wiki he was out with injuries. If he had been fully fit I'm sure he would have played a lot more times & scored many goals for us in the Third Division South.

    Dean scored 3 goals in Notts's first six matches.

    He was probably past his best when he ended up here, but it was good to have his name connected with the club, even in passing. He sounded like a true hero for Everton. Scoring 377 goals during a career is a huge amount of goals.

    4 hours ago, Robbie said:

    @liampieΒ Dixie only played 9 times for us that season. According to Wiki he was out with injuries. If he had been fully fit I'm sure he would have played a lot more times & scored many goals for us in the Third Division South.

    Dean scored 3 goals in Notts's first six matches.

    it would have been the twlight of his career probably, so just to see us sign him its a good thing. its a shame he had injuries, i can imagine in them days playing on when having a knock made things worse and you could not afford to miss a game.

On this day in 1964 Goldfinger was released.

What is your favourite James Bond Movie?

Who is your favourite James Bond?

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    Getting back to the serious side, lots of films now feature the action hero.

    Gerard Butler films such as "Olympus has fallen", "London has fallen", & the modern Mission impossible franchise have all kind of copied the James Bond scenario.

    Now these type of films are just trying to out do each other for spectacular action shots & quick action.

    But there is a lack of character with the hero of the film, lack of a story line.

    The Die hard films went the same way, with the first one being the best, with Alan Rickman playing the classic baddie

    That's my take anyway.

    How about going back to the original Bond films with character actors & a storyline you can follow.

    I need to watch them all again as an adult, the older ones I haven't seen all since I was a young teen. I remember when I was young, thinking Papa Shango was the same character from a James Bond film, who wrestled for the WWF (now WWE).

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    It turns out, the gimmick is based onΒ Baron Samedi.

    I really liked the film the character was in, but honestly, I wouldn't be able to say which one it was. I know, Richard Kiel played Jaws in 'The Spy That Loved Me' and 'Moonraker', I very loosely remember them.

    I wasn't a huge fan of Daniel Craig, but the films he's been in have grown on me.

    never seen any of them, i might have seen clips and bits but never watched one all the way through. i used to find watching films for long periods hard if the subject was not something i really liked. a secret agent is not quite my thing, but i will give them a watch at some point.

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