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Sad to read the news that William Anders was killed in a small plane crash yesterday. He was 90 years old.

Anders, the Lunar module pilot,ย  was one of the 3 Astronauts of Apollo 8, the other two being , Mission Commander Frank Borman & Command Module Pilot James Lovell, who were the first Astronauts to travel away from the Earth, orbit the Moon, see the far side of the moon,ย  then come back safely to Earth.

I can remember as a boy, watching the extended coverage of the journey on the BBC and being rivetted to the small telly we had over the Xmas of 1968.

On Christmas Eveย  William Anders turned his camera toward Earth and captured the legendary Earthrise photo which has become iconic.

Those three Astronauts paved the way for the following missions that landed on the moon.

In a way, those three gentlemen were like the pioneers of old, such as Cook & Raleigh.

The Nottingham Evening Post had a big pullout about the mission, and I kept it for years. It was a very special time and I can remember Patrick Moore, of the Sky at Night programme describing every stage of the mission.

Here is a link about the Apollo 8 mission.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_8

    Blimey @Robbieย I well remember that mission and watching the Splash down and the Apollo Crew being brought on Board the Pick Up Ship along with my Dear Old Dad (well he wasn't Old then). There were many legendry films from the Apollo missions that remain in the memory from the Triumph of the Moon Landing and the Tragic Capsule fire which killed all the Crew. I believe that was the year before the Apollo 8 mission. And the Apollo 13 Mission and the Houston We Have A Problem line, which I Believe was Misquoted, not sure of the proper quote.

    @Wheelbarrow repair manย 

    Can you remember James Burke who worked on these marathon programmes of the Apollo missions?

    He worked on Tomorrow's World for many years. He's still going strong at 87.

    The 3 Astronauts that died in the fire that engulfed their Command Module were working on Apollo 1 at the time.

    When Apollo 13 had the explosion on the side of its Command Module,ย  Astronaut Swigert contacted mission control and saidย , "Okay Houston, we've had a problem here"

    @Robbie

    Yeah I remember James Burke well glad to know he's still alive and kicking. There was also a certain piece of music played to introduce the Apollo missions which was Presented by James, and during an interview James stated every time his wifeย  heard that piece of Music, she would say Listen Darling they're playing Our Tune.

    The Fire in which the Astronauts died happened not long after 3 Russian Cosmonauts had died after the parachute on their Command Module failed to open, and as all Russian Rockets unlike the Americansย  ย touched down on land instead of in the sea the 3 Guys perished, when their module crashed to Earth. (I think I'm right if memory serves).

    Thanks for the correct message update regarding what was said on Apollo 13 to the Command Centre. You might like to know there's a very Funny Skit by Phil Jupitus on You Tube telling a the Story if Apollo 13 had been piloted by a crew of British Astronauts. He does all the different voices and it's well worth watching. If you haven't seen it already.

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Tonight, Spurs play Manchester City in a game that has much at stake. Manchester City will go top heading into the final game of the season if they win but if Spurs win not only do they give themselves a chance at Champions League football but they would also put their North London rivals, Arsenal, in the drivers seat for the Premier League title.ย 

There's been a lot spoken about whether or not Spurs could help out their rivals and whether their fans would want that to happen.ย 

What do you guys think to this situation? Would you still want your team to get the win even if it meant helping your nearest rivals?

Personally, I agree with Ange's take on this situation. I wouldn't want my team to lose even if it benefited a rival team. I'm not sure why anyone would happily sit back and want their team to lose. Plus, Villa dropped 2 points last night so Spurs have a little chance. Had Villa won last night it would have been a different situation and they wouldn't have CL football to play for but even still surely you'd still want your team to get a win.

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  • I canโ€™t imagine that knowing some fans wanted them to lose would affect how the Spurs players would perform, they are professional footballers and as such should go into every game trying to win, at least youโ€™d hope so. I canโ€™t imagineย the players view the rivalry between Arsenal and Spurs the same as the fans do.

    @Fan of Big Toneย Just imagine if a team was playing at home and the fans were so quiet and the team could see their manager arguing with Spurs fans on the touchline.

    That actually happened during the Spurs v Man City match.

    Psychologically this must have had an effect on the Spurs players and would have had a detrimental affect on their performance during the match, that would have only helped Man City.

    On 21/05/2024 at 08:34, KB1862 said:

    @DonnyNotts everyone has an opinion. No opinion can be wrong but in my opinion, I find it strange to see fans wanting their team to lose to stop a rival even when they have chance at gaining something from a win. Look how the results played out afterwards, had they won they'd be looking forward to champions league football next season.ย 

    Guess they didn't have much faith that they could have made it.ย 

Always keep an eye out on him. Got Sutton promoted, when on loan from Millwall. Outstanding talent

With the Advance on a almost daily Basis, could there ever be a Time when Football Clubs are Managed or Coached by

Artificial Intelligence?

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  • In all honesty will there ever be a day when Humanoid Robot's actually take over from real Human Players ? Could Artificial Life forms out think and out play Human opposition?ย  At the moment this seems to be in the realms of Science Fiction, but maybe one day. Already Robotic Engineers have built Robots which can help in Factories, around the home and even in combat. There are many types of Humanoid Robot's already built who can perform certain tasks to view on You tube and who's to say how long will it be before Robotics enters the World of Sport ? Who knows your Great (or Great Great Grandkids) may be watching a Robotic Team of Magpie players down the Lane on a Saturday. Just Imagine a Android likeness of Macca playing along side an Android Les Brad in attack. While a Killer Kilclineย  and a Michael Doyle Robot would boost the Notts Defence.

    The only real expense a Club would have would be up dating it's Soft Ware. No injuries, No Medical Bills, No special diets. No Player fatigue No Subs just a Small Squad of maybe 15 Androids, a First team 11 and 4 Robots on Standby in case of any Damages or Power Failures in the First 11 during a Match. All the Android Players would be programmed with all match tactics. Could it happen ? Who knows? But Don't Discount it.

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    At the end of the day, having artificial intelligence, such as fully automated Robots playing sport without emotion, motivation, passion, or without the ability to have a relationship with the fans, or without the ability to celebrate a goal or feel sad when they lose wouldn't be entertaining at all.

    AI should only be there to help and assist, the human race, not to be used to replace the human race or to attempt to entertain the human race.

    @Robbie

    Agreed with what you say regarding emotionless and relationship with the Fans and the Rest of your points.ย  But if Android players make the Powers that be Money then you can Guarantee, pretty much like top Premier League Clubs nowadays, Fans feelings will Count for Nothing.ย 

Iโ€™ve just been watching Pointless from a few days ago and one of the contestants called Nev is a Notts County fan his partner in the quiz is a Forest fan.

Itโ€™d be great if Nev was a PoN member.

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  • 2 hours ago, Wheelbarrow repair man said:

    I think that Programme is Aptly Named it is POINTLESS.

    Well I like it anyway.

    Nev and his mate got to the head to head but weโ€™re knocked out so they come back again on the next one I watch I hope he talks about Notts again.

    I know youโ€™re all dying to know how Nev and his Forest mate got on in the latest episode of Pointless.

    Well sadly they failed in the second round mainly due to Nevโ€™s Forest supporting mate who gave answers with high points meaning Nev had to get a low points answer to get through, he managed it for the first round but not the second.

    This leaves them with one more appearance to try and win the trophy and the prize pot.

    Come on Nev you can do it, ditch the Forest supporter.

For Notts's 4th Match of the 20/20 season they make a visit to Derby tonight to play Derbyshire Falcons, 7 pm start.

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Have you seen the England Squad, that Southgate's named for the Euro's?

What Do You Think?

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  • I think it is a good squad.ย 

    The team will most likely beย  built around Bellingham with the standout players being Foden, Walker, Rice, Saka, Palmer,ย  Kane & Stones

    Disappointing not to see Jack Grealish in the squad.

    I think we are good enough to get to the Semis, but I always worry about Southgate's negativity when it gets to the latter stages of a competition.

    @Robbie

    Must admit I was surprised by the omission of Notts Old Boy Grealish.ย  Thought he had a decent Cameo against Bosnia, That assist he did was amazing.ย  I mean why play the Guy if you're not going to pick him? Even if he didn't Start a match he could have certainly play the part of a Super Sub, how many times have you seen a player come off the bench and have a match winning effect on a Game? Mind you I think he's in Pep's Bad Books because he hasn't been playing for City in their Big Games. And if I'm Honest it wouldn't really surprise me to see him leave the Etihad.

I am!

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  • I'm so glad for what Neil did for Notts during his tenure here and he will always be a Notts legend, but time has moved on and bringing him back to Notts now would be a backward step in my opinion.

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    On #Notts, replayed videos on stage of Play Off finals and talked a bit about them.

    Video of Council House reception too... see what we missed on our recent promotion

    Talked of Scarborough pre season trip... Drapes and Tommy complaining that despite being picked for England U21, they were given the room with bunk beds

    Also video shown of FA Cup QF at White Hart Lane. It contained crystal clear view of Gazza's elbow on Harding. Warnock said he was ****ing annoyed, it was a straight red but then talked about refs seemingly protecting the big clubs

    On first meeting Pavis, they knew on both sides, they wanted each other... Pavis would come along on scouting trips... like watching Dean Thomas at Northampton.

    On other clubs, I hadn't realised Warnock was at Burton Albion with the likes of F*rest old boys Ian Storey Moore, Sammy Chapman, Paul Winfield?

    Derbyshire Telegraph had rung up Warnock for comments on his release from Chesterfield as a player. The unfortunate part, was that Chesterfield hadnt yet told him!

    What was obvious, he relied on good coaches, never seemed to take a coaching session... he would wander around and then just pull players aside to tell them...what you have just done in training, do that on Saturday! Warnock admitted he was all about man management.

    In audience were Ben Robinson, now former owner of Burton Albion. Ian Storey Moore too.

Game 3 of the 20/20 season. Notts Outlaws v Worcestershire Rapids at Trent bridge, match starts at 6:30 pm

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Notts have a new goalkeeping coach, Steve Collis.

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  • I have no insight as to whether he's highly rated or not but I hope he can help to improve our keepers.

    This is interesting at the end though; โ€œWeโ€™re very happy with the backroom staff we have in place and weโ€™re all really looking forward to pre-season.โ€ And then it gives a full run down of the non-playing staff.

    Ian Hutton hasn't been replaced, does that mean no strength and conditioning coach (fancy term for fitness coach I believe) for next season?

    I think most Notts fans won't know much about Steve Collis, it seems that Stuart Maynard wanted at the club and perhaps at the cost of Tom Weal. I have found a lot of comments since Weal's departure to be very disrespectful.

    However, I wish Collis well with his role and hope that we do see improvements within the keeping department.

The Term Manager seems to be slowly being eradicated from Football, to be replaced with the unflattering position name of Head Coach, and along with it the power or should that be a bigger say in team affaires, that a manager had. Interestingly the New New Man at Liverpool Arne Slot is the Head Coach, unlike his predecessor Jurgen Klopp who had the title of Manager.

With the New name it also seems that a Head Coach is just that a Coach and it appears that unlike a Manager a Coachย  does Not have as much influence on things within the Club he works for. It comes across that a Head Coach doesn't have as much say in the signing of players, sure he can put forward his ideas and players he'd like in his team, but the last word on Transfers so it seems is down to the Recruitment team. Case in point Macca's signing before Luke Williams was revealed as the New Notts Head Coach. And what say does Stuart Maynard have regarding the signing of New Players?

There will be Fans that will state that SM has a say in New Players coming to the Club, but does he really? After all can you see our Head Coach going into Richard Montague and saying Richard this new player you've got an eye on signing, I don't think he's the kind of guy who'll fit into the Notts way of playing. Do you think the reply would be Ok Stuart you're the Boss we'll look at somebody else. Nope, it would be well we've looked at his Data and We think he'll be the perfect fit. Answering my own question Does Stuart Maynard have a say in player transfer's ? Yes perhaps a small amount, but not the type of influence the likes of Jimmy Sirrel, Big Sam and Neil Warnock had when they were Manager down the Lane. Three Managers who brought Success to the Magpies.

It would also seem that any New Coach going to a Club, who has a Playing Model in Place the New Coach has to follow that Model to the letter and Not add his own flair or ideas. It was stated that Roberto de Zerbi at Brighton left because Club wouldn't let him change the way they play, Albion finished 6th the season before last and 10th this. Zerbi saw where the team were failing but instead of allowing him to change things around he left by Mutual Consent. Yeah Right. Was it the same for Poch at Chelsea? He made changes at Chelsea towards the end of last season and things got better, But he moved away from the Chelsea Model, now he to is Out Of A Job. Manager or Head Coach? I know which I prefer.

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  • When the smaller clubs in the Premier League are forced to sell their best players to remain on the right side of the FFP rules, they shouldn't sell to the top six PL clubs, they should sell to teams either in Europe or Worldwide.ย 

    If the top six are starved of the best talent, the PL would slowly become more equal once again.

    On the 'Two Pints Podcast with Will Mellor and Ralf Little', they mentioned the 115 charges hanging over Manchester City and I feel like they had it bang on the money. Ralf Little said that they won't ever be punished for these charges to which Will Mellor responded that it would be unfair for City to go unpunished while Everton and Forest have both faced punishment for breaching the rules.ย 

    I'm in agreement with both points made and I think the only time City will finally be found guilty of their charges is when they introduce the luxury tax ruling meaning that all they'll have to do is a pay a fine and it'll be done rather than seeing them face a points deduction which would really affect them. In short, punishing the lower teams and allowing the elite to stay at the top.ย 

    The thing that annoys me about these situations is the fact that they are so blatantly allowing the elite to run the show and get away with anything and everything and they aren't even hiding the "corruption" anymore.ย 

    Update.

    Aston Villa have proposed to increase the amount of money clubs can lose under PSR rules in the Premier League over a 3-year period from ยฃ105m to ยฃ135m. This is set to get the green light in today's meeting.

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Man City launch unprecedented legal action against the Premier League

City are attempting to end the Premier League's Associated Party Transaction (ATP) rules

More information here.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11679/13147867/man-city-launch-legal-action-against-premier-league-over-financial-rules-ahead-of-their-own-115-charge-hearing

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UEFA will reportedly allowย Manchester Unitedย to play in theย Europa Leagueย next season despite the European governing body's restrictions on multi-club ownership.ย 

United and Nice, who are also owned by Sirย Jim Ratcliffe's company Ineos, haveย both qualified for the competition next season.ย 

Looks like UEFA are going to bend the rules so United can play in the Europa league next season even though Nice qualified first. One of the big six set to win again.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13487753/Man-United-ALLOWED-play-alongside-sister-Nice-seasons-Europa-League-subject-certain-conditions-UEFA-change-multi-ownership-rules.html

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Barrow apply a similar model, training in Greater Manchester

https://www.barrowafc.com/news/2023/may/barrow-announce-new-training-ground/

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Good luck to Ruben in the 2nd leg of the League 1 playoff semi final against Peterborough to be played on Wednesday.

His team Oxford, lead 1:0 from the 1st Leg.

It would be great if Ruben got to the final this season.

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  • Lets be honest. Notts was just a stepping stone for Ruben, a player of his calibre wasn't going to be left in the Footballing basement of the National League or League 2 . The biggest Regret for the Owners must have been he went on a Free Transfer. I think he was offered a new contract before Transfer Window of 2022/2023 and he refused to sign it. That being the case he should have been Transfer Listed that January and Notts would have benefitted financially from his Sale.

    @Wheelbarrow repair manย it's a pity that he didn't sign a new contract but I think Notts were right to keep him up to the end of his contract.

    It paid dividends when he was in the right place at the right time to score our equaliser in the playoff final, that gave us the chance to win on penalties,ย  which we did.

    I think Notts got their monies worth out of him, but it is a lesson for Notts for the future which I believe they have learnt from.

    Macaulay was given a long contract last summer, so that this time, Notts can cash in if he goes. Now Notts need to get Jodi to sign a nice long contract too.

    @Robbie

    I agree with some of your points, however it always struck me that Ruben didn't really want to be at Notts,ย  he only wanted to use the Club as a window so he could show off his Footballing Skills and hope another club higher up the Footballing Pyramid would come in for him. As I understand it he was ready to leave the Lane before Ian Burchanellย  left and it wasย  Luke Williams who convinced him to stay. And you really don't want a player who's all Me Me Me in the dressing room. Football after all is a Team Game.ย 

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  • 7 minutes ago, DangerousSausage said:

    ย @Robbie,ย 

    About the Champions League, I think UEFA have managed to turn their premier competition into a version of the UEFA Cup, and the next changes will make it even more bloated. It's all about guaranteeing that the biggest clubs don't miss out and get as many games as possible.ย 

    I totally agree on this..

    I don't know why they didn't keep the UEFA Cup, the Cup Winners Cup & European Cup in their original format. Lots of money would still have been generated.

    But of course UEFA want to ward off more talk of a Super League breakaway.

    That's why they have increased the number of clubs in the Champions League.

    @Robbie

    You're so right Mate, 36 teams in the Champions League, will devalue the competition in fact really they'll have to rename it. How about the European Super League? That's what UEFA is trying to do, bring in the Super League via the Back Door. As you've stated before UEFA aren't going to give up this money spinning idea , the Super League will come about one way or another and the 36 team Champions League is just another attempt to get it up and running.

    And what will happen? We'll get the moaning and groaning from the Premiership, The season's to long our players are tired playing all these extra games it means more chance of injuries to our players.ย  And of course the FA with bend over backwards to accommodate the whining winging Premier League Prima Donna's and the rest of the English game will suffer.

    Until the 72 clubs of the EFL have effective equal voting rights with the 20 in the PL league, nothing will change regarding the steady unstoppable path to an eventual Euro Super League.

    There has even been talk about the Championship morphing into a PL 2 league, that would split the football league power base even more firmly into the FA Premier League's corner.ย 

The 2nd game for Notts outlaws as they visit the Bears, 6:30 pm start at Edgbaston.

Can the Outlaws come back from their defeat to Northants last night?ย 

Notts need a win to get off the bottom of that early table.

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