It was a good friendly, entertaining, and I don’t think we have much to worry about at this stage. There are a handful of players who didn’t make the game, so I would be curious to see if they actually make the bench or start against Tranmere. Peterborough were always going to win this friendly. A high-scoring match should give us more confidence rather than affect morale. It’s how you look at things, I suppose, but Jodi Jones played at his very best.

It was a good pre-season friendly, a lot of intent and good chances by both teams. The result means little, so I would caution less worry over the 4-3 finish. I would say, it shows that we can be competitive with good teams, and it's all about form. If we learn to finish the chances we get against League Two teams, we should be fine.

Now we can start building the first 11, focus on performances and form.

The first few games will only be a good insight as to how we are adjusting defensively and how Stuart Maynard sees which players have what roles in the squad.

For those that are interested I've found the highlights from the Peterborough site, they are free to view!

Highlights of the first match: 

https://www.theposh.com/video/player/0_qr5ds7cb?feed=572d5031-67d2-44eb-90e1-19cf03693c7d&section=9029b27b-2dd9-4a50-8844-77c477038c99

Highlights of the second match:

https://www.theposh.com/video/player/0_idoqe8ih?feed=572d5031-67d2-44eb-90e1-19cf03693c7d&section=9029b27b-2dd9-4a50-8844-77c477038c99

Second match is, um, more entertaining... ???? ????

I don’t know, but I think when we have our own players of this age, it makes little sense to sign or bring in someone else’s young player.

????????‍♂️its a interesting spot, i always wonder how people get pictures like this and why the club does not do more to ensure nobody is sneaking pictures. if a player is training with you, then its less a problem but when its just like this anyone could see it and trigger interest. i dont really know him but trust the recruitment.

Sadly he's probably a lot better than any of our strikers that are also 18. He's scored plenty of goals in the Premier League development Leagues and the then did well in his short spell in the National League. A move to a League 2 club would be a good next step for him.

As for the photo though ????‍♂️ It could be a number of players to be honest, it's very hard to tell who it is as it's so far away! Maybe a touch of wishful thinking to say it's Dajaune Brown, but it could be... 

I'm not going to keep saying things about Andy Murray; I personally don't like him or his attitude, but I don't deny he's a good player.

He would make a very good coach.

A great send off for the Legend that is Andy Murray.

reminds me of my school days. ????

good luck to him in retirement, if he can inspire or coach the next generation of great british talent that would be great.

i love reading the memories, the old scoreboard has been mentioned a fair bit during my time on pon and i have seen many of those pictures before. its nice to know that there was a joking element to it too.

I remember a smaller one from the 90s, that used to have very basic animations when goals were scored.

I have seen this one during my time though, but I can't share any good stories about it. I have heard other fans at Notts games tell me about it, so I know it meant a lot to fans who were fortunate to have seen it in action.

I have no memories of the old Spion Kop scoreboard, but I do think preserving its history and the memories of fans is very important. I would welcome seeing more comments from fans here on PON who may have had the experience.

@Robbie

I've Not Heard or Read anything else about Snus, there's been No update from any Main Stream Media (as I've seen anyway) My Original Thread on this Topic is currently on Page 17 of the PON Website. One of Snus main problems is it increases the Risk Of Heart Problems !! Make you think doesn't it? Also could it part of the Reason why Players Suddenly Feel Tired? Whatever it is Snus needs looking into by the F.A. and Banning, or Football could end up having a lot more Young Fit Players Suddenly Collapsing on the Pitch, Heaven Forbid.

@Wheelbarrow repair man

I couldn't find anything recent either since those last reports. Seems that they want the story buried, I wonder why?

This dangerous habit is not going to help sportsmen in the long term and it's use needs to be put in the spotlight, highlighting the dangers of it's use.

I'll monitor the airwaves from time to time to see if SNUS is mentioned or not.

Good Luck To You @Robbie but  I think you may be Flogging a Dead Horse. Because has you have said the SNUS Addiction of Players is Something that People Want Buried.

What will it take for this to be Brought into the Spotlight? Some World Class Player Collapses and Dies on the Pitch in Front of Thousands of Fans and his Death can be linked to his use of the SNUS Drug. That Statement is a Morbid One I Know but it's Probably the only way the Use of this Drug will be brought back to the Forefront of Awareness.

his ideas will probably be all americanisation and that wont work here in the uk, scotland would be more opposed to it. i hope he does good, but i think if someone could make a team that is not known for winning things and claim to have revolutionary ideas. it would make me wonder why not a more profitable team? i really hope for inverness caledonian thistles that this is a good thing for them.

They'll be back in the Highland League then.

Every time someone swans in who knows nothing about football and promises to revolutionise football we know exactly what's going to happen. It's like a bad soap opera.

The Caley fans seem highly sceptical with good reason.

https://caleythistleonline.com/topic/36282-investment/page/16/#comment-569160

Check

https://chudphotography.smugmug.com/Notts-County-FC/2024-2025-Season/MSV-Duisburg-v-Notts-County-20072024

I don’t view it as a criticism of the young players who were on the pitch when the goals started coming in. I also believe the penalty was more a case of their player pushing into Chicksen and then falling over. It’s challenging to keep up with games when there are numerous changes, and while some fans might see this as making excuses, for a young player it’s much tougher. Once a goal is conceded, it impacts how you play and it can be easier for the attacking team to capitalise on this. All things considered, it’s not a bad result.

@Wheelbarrow repair man

I think we can safely say that we lost because Stuart drastically changed the side.

I wonder why Stuart can't change the personnel a few at a time in the second half so that the side is affected so much.

My question would be, How can one seriously find out the worth of a trialist if he isn't playing within a side full of first teamers?

On 31/07/2024 at 10:25, Wheelbarrow repair man said:

Preseason Friendlies are to build up a Players fitness, time for New Players to get settled into their New Environment  and for the Head Coach to get an idea of the players he'll start in his First XI  once the League Season Starts and by Winning Games to Install Confidence and a Positive Attitude.

Leaking Goals was a Major Problem last season and new Defenders have been brought in to Stop the Rot. And yet 7 goals conceded in the Last 3 Matches  alone Is A Major Concern. So perhaps the Fault doesn't lie with the Defence more of the way Notts play. I don't know how many more times Fans are going to have to say this, until Richard Montague and Stuart Maynard Realize it.

THE NOTTS TIPPY TAPPY FOOTBALL "MODEL" DOES NOT WORK.

I would say a Majority of Players Don't like it as it goes against the way they normally play  and New Players are struggling to Adapt. Stuart Maynard does Not have very good Man Management skills. However left to his own devices he May be able to Find a Winning Formula. But I think there is to much  Interference  from other  Quarters that Stops him doing his Job Properly.

And for Fans not overly concerned with the Preseason Results, if memory serves, the Preseason before Notts were Promoted back into the EFL, the Magpies Didn't lose a Match. Therefore Winning becomes a Habit and a Team will carry that Winning Attitude Into The New Season.

As you rightly said, winning becomes a habit, and it also breeds confidence.

I cannot for the life of me, understand how anyone can say preseason games don't matter.

It's like when some managers are saying cup games don't matter. Every single game that Notts play has to matter. 

It mattered to Boston Utd that they beat a league 2 club the other night.

I get the concerns about not having a starting 11 that would more resemble the starting 11 against Tranmere, I feel like this pre-season we’ve struggled more with injuries than is being revealed.

It’s not helped all the games have been away games so fewer fans have seen the team, most fans are relying on the club to bridge the gap and our media coverage is usually top notch but it feels like we’ve been fed scraps this season. The updates on the games have been minimal and highlights non-existent. I’m having to watch other teams highlights and interviews to try and gauge how we got on!

I’m still not overly concerned, yet… But I totally understand why fans would be concerned that we couldn’t score, but conceded against a team with 10 men. A post-match reaction from Boston would’ve gone some way to help calm and explain. I’ve heard we’ve been doing double sessions before games, so if that’s true it would explain why we seem to tail off as games wear on.

i partly wonder if its just stuart maynard trying to get a further insight on what changes work from off the bench, the team defensively was weak but against boston it should have been a closer result. people are saying that they scored for fun against peterborough and we should have fielded our strongest team but maybe we are trying to make sure the squad as a whole is on the right level amongst the squad?

there is no point having a bench of players who are not quite match fit.

this is very sad to read, rest in peace craig shakespeare.

I remember this programme on the B.B.C. When Robert Robinson was in charge, I think it was only open to Posh Families. But Oh How The Mighty Have Fallen. Presented by Dick and Dom, who were about as Entertaining as Root Canal Work They Had a Combined I.Q Slightly Higher that a Rabbit Dropping and thought Going Round Shouting BOGGIES Was Funny. Give Me Strength.

@Wheelbarrow repair man

I remember the quiz, "Ask the Family" well. It would have a family of four with a boy and a girl and Robinson would ask them questions about all sorts of things.

The children were all well spoken, most likely went to private school, and of course they were very knowledgeable. The parents would have very good jobs.

The World was quite different then of course.

i dont talk football with my family and i avoid it with my dad, tho my uncle tends to talk good sense about notts. i see things a lot more differently to my dad, it would only lead to me getting annoyed with his complaining. ????

there have been times i have told him to go watch forest again. ????

if i cant make a game, i would prefer to listen to the radio. i am not that fussed about sky sports.

glad you will be able to watch games tho, @Fan of Big Tone.

I am still annoyed from last summer, when Tiernan should have been given a chance and we dished out unwarranted contracts to defenders and a keeper, who froze for 8 or so minutes at Wembley

Tiernan should be here at Notts fighting for a place in the Notts side. I put him ahead of Slocombe & Tiernan should be at least the second choice.

Sometimes a can't make out some of the Notts decisions regarding their players, & why some are deemed to be ok and some not.

If another team think that Tiernan is good enough for them, then why not Notts?

Notts were ok playing players that were clearly not good enough last season.

I don't get why we can't make more of the industries we have that are dying, why more thought can't go into thriving them. There's a YouTube channel that pays visits to companies that are in danger of dying off, it promotes the 'Made in Britain' aspect, and it's something we should really try to make sure continues.

The easiest decision is to stop, but is it the right call?

Once you stop, it's harder to return to doing it when those skilled workers are few and far between. This is a sad thing.  

My Guess is the material which makes British Coins will be totally Inferior to what we have now. Thus Not Making the Minting of New Coins worth having, so Coins will be got Rid completely . Another Step Towards A Cashless Society.

@Wheelbarrow repair man

The most disturbing thing about not being able to produce our own steel in large quantities, is the fact that we have to now import steel to build equipment for our armed forces.

In my opinion, it is a national security issue.

@Robbie I’m not saying he shouldn’t get the number 9 shirt, maybe he will, I’m just saying it’s not that important these days as @Wheelbarrow repair man says in the post above it’s an old fashioned idea that your best team has numbers 1 to 11, it’s all about squad numbers these days.

Given Jatta’s impressive performance in the pre-season, I believe he deserves recognition as our primary striker and should be awarded the number 9 shirt. While shirt numbers might seem insignificant, they can be used to instil confidence or boost a player’s morale. Some teams practice this, and players take pride in honouring it. I see no reason why we shouldn’t do the same.

I don't want to tempt fate, but we could give it to our highest earner and in that I mean, David McGoldrick. He already looks likely to be the vice captain (to my knowledge this hasn't been confirmed by Notts yet). I would rather Alassana Jatta or Cedwyn Scott get it, but Jatta has done remarkably well.

The numbers on shirts being given relevant importance, is a trick teams did to sell shirts, and it really doesn't mean much.

That said, I have said in the past that it would be nice to return the traditional way of numbers being given to important players, as the numbers 1-11 did actually mean something.

In my view, Manchester City will clinch the league. I reckon Liverpool might struggle due to Jurgen Klopp stepping down, and I believe Spurs will outperform them, securing second place. I predict Arsenal will end up in 4th place, with Manchester United trailing behind in 5th place.

@Robbie

Well I'll say one thing Fella. I Admire your confidence in Chelsea if Poch had been in charge Maybe 6th. The Trouble is they change their Manager more times than the average woman changes her mind. I reckon top ten finish at Best (outside the top 6).

Champions: Arsenal

Runners-Up: Manchester City

Third Place: Liverpool

Fourth Place: Spurs

Fifth Place: Chelsea

Sixth Place: Aston Villa

FA Cup winner: Manchester United
League Cup: Crystal Palace

We can only hope he can manage to stay fit and showcase the best of his ability.

That said, I have seen a lot of criticism about his pre-season performances and how disinterested some of our fans are with the signing. I am more inclined to reserve judgement, as you get those who are doubtful or extremely negative - then people who leap overpraise.

I do think on paper, he looks more like a cover and squad member signing. Yet, I haven't see him play and he may settle with us. Notts has worked well with players in recent years who have had injury issues.

To be frank, the signing seems quite ordinary. Given the depth of talent brought in during the transfer window, it’s hard to see how he’ll get a chance to play. His injury history and lack of football are concerning. The decision to sign him appears risky. Can we really afford to have a player sit out the season if the worst happens? It’s a bit disappointing, but I hope this feeling will fade once we see Robbie Cundy in action. I sincerely hope he turns out to be a good signing.

@thommo

Cundy playing against Boston tonight.

Now that he’s gone, everything else is irrelevant unless news about the deal and its inner workings comes out. We won’t know anything for certain, and it’s all pure speculation. There’s no harm in discussing it, but it’s all hearsay and opinions.

@DangerousSausage is correct, we wouldn’t have had much say in the matter and we can’t confirm if there were any release terms.

I believe that Macaulay Langstaff requested and wanted the move to happen. He’s performed well in his two-year stint with us, with many memorable moments. It’s a sign that we can nurture talent, make good use of them, and sell them on for a profit.

9 hours ago, Robbie said:

@Scotty @Wheelbarrow repair man

In my playbook, if a player is worth £2.5 million you sell him for at least £2.5 million.

Why would you sell a player for £750K if they are worth £2.5 million then hope to earn more if the player is sold on?

Doesn't make a lot of sense to me but perhaps I'm reading it wrong.

Notts may just as well have loaned Macca out to Millwall for a season, Millwall pay increased wages to him, & Millwall could have also paid Notts a fee for every goal he scored.

If Millwall then wanted to buy him, pay Notts the £2.5 million,plus add ons for selling him on.

I'm suggesting the £2.5 million will be reached. £750k up front payment. Millwall pay Macca £300k up front signing on fee, which also accounts for the after tax wages that Notts are liable to Macca for, which means we are not taxed on that money.

When Macca plays so many games for Millwall, Notts get another pay day.

when Macca scores so many goals for Millwall,  Notts get another pay day.

Most importantly, when Macca is sold to a Premiership outfit, or gets there with Millwall. Notts have another significant pay day.

This is how some football deals are structured now.  Also the brother are very circumspect and don't share what is rightly sensitive data.  Notts will have several significant pay days to come. 

Q

On 28/07/2024 at 12:35, allardyces tash said:

Now that he’s gone, everything else is irrelevant unless news about the deal and its inner workings comes out. We won’t know anything for certain, and it’s all pure speculation. There’s no harm in discussing it, but it’s all hearsay and opinions.

@DangerousSausage is correct, we wouldn’t have had much say in the matter and we can’t confirm if there were any release terms.

I believe that Macaulay Langstaff requested and wanted the move to happen. He’s performed well in his two-year stint with us, with many memorable moments. It’s a sign that we can nurture talent, make good use of them, and sell them on for a profit.

This is largely how I feel, we have to move on, and I don't really care much about the fee now.

I'm more determined to see us continue our journey and grow further as a club, whatever the deal is. It's now set in stone, nothing can change it, and we need to make sure we use whatever funds it did give us wisely.

By what he said at his interview, I don't think he's come here to sit on the bench. He wants a first team place. I think this could be potentially, a very good signing for Notts.

Brighton fans are saying he was on the cusp of being a regular in their first team.

Question will be if he can cope with the physicality of league 2.

Ed Francis mark II seems like a good signing, but players like him always need to be pushed. I think he’ll integrate well and should get game time in matches where we want to rest others. I’m pleased we have a defensively-minded midfielder. There’s talk that Curtis Edwards can play anywhere in midfield, and we also have Scott Robertson, which gives us plenty of options.

He looks like a signing that should grow in his role and improve further with the time given, it's not one of those signings which would create a natural buzz, but I see no reason why he would be a good addition to our team.

Good to have the midfield strengthened with the arrival of Jack Hinchy.

it would be nice if alex bass can help us keep a high amount of clean sheets, along with the new defence but it would be nice to top this again. i think we need another striker though.

YEAH Stick That In Your Pipe And Smoke It PEP !!

Great achievement, it does show that last season wasn't all that bad. We just struggled at points when other teams were finding their own form and the more Notts struggled, the less creative we seemed. Yet this shows that we were still very attacking minded!

8 hours ago, CliftonMagpie said:

Whether it’s a pre-season friendly or not, @super_ram, your team has disappointed us. Could you help us make sense of this result? Did you field all young players? We need some explanation for this outcome. ????

Believe it or not my team could very easily have been 2 goals up in the first 5 minutes. Wednesday's game is one of  the reasons why we have pre-season games .Yes, a very embarrassing night but my team are still virtual strangers playing a well organised team who have had extra weeks to gel. There was plenty of individual excellence but football is a team game. I expect a much improved TEAM performance against  Shrewsbury on Saturday and also let's see what happens on 13th August when Chesterfield visit Pride Park  for an EFL cup game.

we will let derby off the hook this time, i know the result is a lure to make them believe they can do better in the league. when they struggle, we will thank you for inflating their confidence.  

Just to clarify, when I saw @super_ram last. I told him off about the defeat, and how his beloved Derby County had let us Notts fans down.

Disgraceful performance by the Rams, but I do like @liampie's logic. ???? 

Reinforces the need of a Football Regulator in the UK

https://www.indy100.com/sport/bordeaux-football-club-professional-status

its crazy what is happening with football clubs, but it shows how important it is to try to avoid over spending. i think this type of thing is better than seeing the club fold completely.

It's a sad thing to see a club fall, but it's their time to get things right. There's no reason why they couldn't become stronger for this and given their fans the oppatunity to make a difference would harbour a togetherness.

Chris Kiwomya deserves a great deal of recognition for bringing the duo to Meadow Lane, as I remember reading that it was his suggestion. We’ve had a number of good loan players, but none quite like these two for a while. It’s unfortunate that we didn’t have a stronger squad, as they could have been the missing piece in a promotion push back to the Championship. Instead, they helped us maintain our position in League One.

there was a picture of them spending time whilst on international duty a few years ago, someone tweeted jack and he retweeted it saying they were catching up and had been talking about those days.

I told Jack's father when he got his first international cap, that we were proud of him.

Callum McGregor also deserves a lot of praise for how he's forged a career. He was heavily linked to Sunderland before they fell down the leagues and wasn't playing for Celtic. I always felt he would have benefitted more from a move to a good English club (not Sunderland). However, he's proven that his ambition and desire to be an important player for the club he supports and loves has paid off.

It's been nice seeing their careers; both had incredible talent when they came here on loan.

If there is anyone to blame for the footballers being tired it is the FA Premier League as far as I'm concerned.

We've talked about this in previous threads. I totally agree @Wheelbarrow repair man that the Champions League & Europa League should be knockout only, & only champions of the top leagues should represent their league in the champions league.

Europa League, which should  be changed to the Europa Cup, should be runners up or cup Winners only. No other versions of the Europa league should be allowed.

Future Euro international tournaments should be held at the start of the European season, after players have had a month's rest from the previous season.

If the top players can't make it, then I'm sure there will be plenty of takers who want to represent their Country.

the premier league has done a lot more to ensure good english players are coming through, there could always be more but i think it was far worse in the early 00s. one injury to the midfield i remember being made into a major issue, whereas now we have a lot of good midfielders. the fa needs to try to continue putting money into the grass roots.

I'm sick of hearing about why the players feel they didn't do well, or why they are tired. I do believe clubs need to make sure they only play fit players, instead of playing someone who is in need of rest. Issue, most players will still want to play. Some just want to play and if tiredness impacts their performance then excuses are thrown out.

There are times I feel we over play Aaron Nemane, his peformances massively dip when he looks knackered and considering how much running he can do in a game. It's only natural, it's just a case of he's very rarely rested - it took his form to dip last season for him to be given the time. I don't think ability shines as much when you are needing a rest, so the fault falls in various ways.