He might become a competent manager one day, but he’s always rushing and hasn’t dedicated enough time to learning. He’ll either be a natural or he’ll fail. I wish him the best, though succeeding at Woking is tough.
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Good morning it’s a new week and the day is starting off sunny so far, the school holidays have started and lots of people will be heading off on holiday, so if you are one of those have a great time.
Personally being retired we avoid school holidays and prefer to go away when it’s quieter and cheaper, I really feel sorry for those folk who have to pay exorbitant prices during the school holidays.
Whatever you are up to have a great day and please come on the weekly thread for a chat about anything.
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Ah yes Schmeichel Doyle, is he goalkeeping coach? ![]()

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Have you ever heard a song and thought, "Hang on, is that (insert artist name)?" only to find out that it's someone completely different?
Well, just for fun, I thought I would see if we could start a quirky topic about this very thing! It's aimed as a laugh, and I didn't seriously believe, in my case, that it was sung by the actual original artist; I just think it sounds like him.
"Love Changes (Everything)" by Rod Stewart (real artist Climie Fisher).
Also,
"Lonely This Christmas" by Elvis (Real artist Mud).
From time to time, the last one actually has people still believing he is Elvis. My friend was singing this last Christmas. I asked him if he liked Mud; he asked me what it was. 😂 He replied, "No, this is the King of Roll 'n Roll. Elvis". Sorry mate, but it's not. 😝
@super_ram might not agree with me with the first one, he likes Rod.
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11 minutes ago, Robbie said: Julian Lennon sounds a lot like his Dad John here.
Too Late For Goodbyes.
Got to agree there, I thought the same the first time I heard it.
@Chris Julian has issued many recordings since 1984. Some of his singles, such as "Too Late for Goodbyes", have reached the top position in various charts. As of January 2025, Lennon has released thirty-five singles and seven studio albums. His first Album was by far the most successful which included the successful single Too Late For Goodbyes.
During the Cardiff game, I heard a mixed amount of opinions on Jodi Jones's role within the XI that took on the Welsh side.
I think the role is encouraging, and I could see Jodi Jones affording better potential than what he would get from the wider areas of the pitch. It might also see him gain more chances to convert opportunities, with him being further up the pitch. In my opinion, if we are to give Jodi this role, I would hope that we persist and afford him the chance to grow into the role as Mai Traore had in game time last season.
The comments I heard were mostly negative, with complaints that he's not good enough or that he isn't creative enough for the role. I understand the concerns that he's exciting to watch coming from the flanks, but he can still do that if he's afforded some freedom to drift either left or right.
It's no different than David McGoldrick, although the promising thing is that we have other attacking options ahead of and around him. Sometimes with Didzy, I could understand the frustrations with him going deeper or moving out to the flank, because it would isolate the attacking threat in the middle. I don't see this being the same as Jodi, as there will be better quality in the position(s) he's previously played, with fewer chances for the opposition to want to hack him down.
For some reason, officials act like it's perfectly fine to hack wide players down when they are good, whereas they tend to stamp down on it in the middle, and opposition players tend to be more afraid to challenge players for fear of giving a free kick in a vital space.
If the concerns I have seen and heard over Jodi losing his "pace" are true, it would be more reason to give him a fair chance in this squad.
Personally, I think he's suffering from a lack of confidence and is scared of falling victim to further injuries. With his history, it's perfectly natural, but if you watched him play when he returned towards the end, he wasn't the same out wide, and if the attacking midfield brings him confidence, I can see it paying off.
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I really hope Jodi stays fit for most, if not all, of the season. We do miss him when he’s not playing. Trying him in an attacking midfield role is a smart move. It gives him some freedom, like others have said, but also offers a bit of protection. The main thing is that he enjoys his football. Helping the team by scoring, assisting and playing well will make a big difference.
There’s nothing stopping Jodi from drifting wide to put a cross in or making a run into space for a shot. He’ll be different to David McGoldrick, but I think the role suits him. It’s more about him getting his confidence back and letting go of the fear of another injury. I’m sure he still hesitates at times when he’s on the ball. There were a few moments against Cardiff where he looked unsure, so moving him into a new role could help both him and the team.
I’m happy to give JJ time in the attacking midfield role. I think he can still put in good crosses and do the same things he did as a wing back, just from a different area of the pitch. Someone else will need to carry the ball forward, but JJ can still be effective. I’d love to see Jodi score more goals!
At some point in his career, I am confident that Jodi Jones has taken on this role. He has predominantly played in attacking positions for Malta, where he stands out as their sole attacking player. I believe adapting to a new role shouldn't be particularly challenging for him. If he can deliver a few strong performances, with an assist here and a goal there, it will significantly boost his morale. Ultimately, contributing to Notts' victories will be the key to his success.
He expressed that coming here reignited his passion for football, and now it's all he desires to pursue.
Shifting him from the wing not only enhances our pace in the attack but also positions him closer to the heart of the action. His ability to maneuver past defenders is remarkable, regardless of where he plays, and he excels at holding the ball under pressure. I have no doubt that he can effectively set up teammates in an attacking midfield role.
Talented players often thrive when switching roles, as this adaptation can rejuvenate their careers. If it doesn't yield the desired results, we can always explore other options. However, I see no reason to doubt the potential for success in this approach.

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We need a good quality striker to replace Didzy & the owners are possibly going to have to fork out some money to acquire one. Possibly in the region of £250K to £350 K should get a decent goal scorer for this level.
I don't understand why the club hasn't gave Traore a run in the B team for him to get some confidence. Scoring becomes a habit & scoring brings confidence.
Other Clubs use the B team for that purpose so why not Notts. I think it could pay dividends for Traore and Notts.
Martin Paterson gave a very good interview. I would have liked the media to push back a little when he refused to answer certain questions. I respect that he doesn’t want to talk about promotion and would rather let the football do the talking, but sometimes it’s okay to press a bit. There are polite ways to phrase things from his point of view, like saying he’s confident but will take it game by game, and after a few matches he’d hope to be in the top four and pushing higher.
Excellent interview from the perspective of what sounds like a solid plan.
I like that he went to watch Newport County and that he isn't going to talk about how we are the better team on paper. He doesn't give much away, which is good. I am more curious about the injuries, as it sounds like we have the majority back. I thought Scott Robertson and Lucas Ness were still out injured?
9 hours ago, piedestrian said: I think the discourse of Traore being not good enough is quite unfair.
I don't think it is unfair; he had the opportunity to fit in and played when others could have done more for us at that stage. He got the place because he needed to 'adjust', but lacked signs of control, fell over, and looked a little unnatural as a footballer.
We have had good players who never had the time of day; even Junior Morias did more in his final game away to AFC Wimbledon than Mai Traore did for the majority of the games. We utilized him as both a striker and an attacking midfielder, yet he failed to perform effectively in either role. There were glimpses, and I would hope that he can come good, but it wasn't Stuart Maynard's fault Traore couldn't pass the ball, control it, or stay on his feet.
Pairing him with Jatta is also a benefit to helping him settle; he needs to step up this season and find confidence.
As Worrying things happen around the World.
Here's A Question For Everyone
Would The World, Be Better Off Without The Human Race?
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If you put it all in to context the Insect is a very powerful & important force in the World. The vast majority of plant life depend on them.
They are the pollinators. Without them, it would be very hard for life on earth.
We would have to pollinate plants manually which would be very difficult.
I don't think that I can think of any other life form accept for humans that has a negative impact on the planet.
If I had to pick two life forms that are absolutely essential in maintaining life on the Earth is Plant life & Insects .
A crunch match awaits for second placed Notts against third placed Somerset. The match starts at 11am today.
Notts are just one point behind Surrey who stand in first place in the County Championship Table.
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It's the end of the 3rd day's play & Notts are 511 for 6. Hameed made 208. They lead by 73 runs with one day left.
Final day of the match between Notts & Somerset. Notts resume on 511 for 6. Notts have been bowled out in the 1st hour for 544, a lead of 106 runs.
The match is drawn with Somerset on 200 for 5 in their 2nd innings, leading by 94 when the Captains shook hands. Notts take 13 points for the draw & are 9 points behind Surrey & stay in 2nd place in the league.
Hello @MrWillowTiger and welcome to our friendly community, please feel free to browse round and maybe introduce yourself when you’re ready.
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Hello, @MrWillowTiger.
I like the creativity in your username, I take it you like Willow Trees and Tigers? I do hope you enjoy being a member and get stuck in with our conversations. Welcome to the Pride of Nottingham.
Hello, welcome to the Pride of Nottingham. It's good to be welcoming more new members @MrWillowTiger.
Hello, welcome to the Pride of Nottingham. I really like your username, @MrWillowTiger. I take it these are two things you like aside from the famous Notts County? It reminds me of the children's book "The Tiger Who Came to Tea".
Hello, @Terry Lyons.
Welcome to the Pride of Nottingham, I do hope you enjoy being a memeber of our Notts County community. If you need any help or assistance please do reach out to a member of the team. COYP!
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hello, welcome to the pride of nottingham @Terry Lyons. ☺️
Hello, welcome to the Pride of Nottingham. I hope you join in and become a regular poster, @Terry Lyons.
Hello, @Terry Lyons. Welcome to PON. It's great to give you a warm reception. Enjoy being a member of the Pride of Nottingham.
Hello, and welcome to the Pride of Nottingham @roadsider1862. I hope you enjoy being a part of our Notts County community.
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hello, welcome to the pride of nottingham @roadsider1862. ☺️
Hello, @roadsider1862. I am new myself and I have found the site to be a breath of fresh air. Being young, everyone has been very friendly, so I want to extend that by welcoming you.
It's great to be saying hello and welcoming you to the community, @roadsider1862. I hope you enjoy being here.
Des that mean they have lost interest in Jatta?
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Would have been good at #Notts but we cannot match championship wages
1 hour ago, Piethagoram said: Would have been good at #Notts but we cannot match championship wages
I think Colby Biship is still a free agent, he's got a decent goalscoring record since leaving us. He does have concerns with his heart but he made a comeback.

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Is he a striker or does he play out wide? If he’s a striker, he’s not kept up with scoring. I remember reading that he was one of the club’s top scorers at youth level. He really needs to push on with his career. Best of luck to him.
No we aren't changing our set up but this....
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Wouldn’t it make more sense to place the troublesome teams closer to the centre of the Jimmy Sirrel Stand, rather than by the rowdier sections? It might help keep tempers in check. Some groups wind each other up too easily when they're side by side.
It’s been a long time since I last looked through FourFourTwo. That old 4-4-2 formation isn't seen as fashionable nowadays, but I wouldn’t mind if we gave it another go. It would suit us better if we’re after a more balanced style at times.
I think that the Notts side will be more physical than what they were under Williams & Maynard. I think we've already seen evidence of that in the pre season games.
I've always wanted the Notts team to be more physical & tougher with their opponents. I think you have to be in league 2.
We were bossed off the park by Wimbledon in both playoff semifinals & I am sure that must have had a big impression on the Notts powers that be.
It could even have been one of the reasons that the Head Coach was changed & new coaching staff appointed, as well as bringing in tougher players.
i wonder if four four two will ever rebrand the more unpopular 4-4-2 becomes in foootball. they should call it formations and have done with it. 🤣
Dane has gone to town with this; it's always funny to see what ends up being included. Eyes down! 👀
With all the comments from our fans, Barry Cotter was always going to get the Potter joke. His goal against Cardiff shows he’s got a bit of magic in him. He looks like he can create special moments.
Quality! Has somebody called Cotter a wizard on the wing yet?
Trialist from our week in Germany
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A dream move for Hackford. I wish him all the best in League 1 for his new side. I do hope he does well for them & gets some game time but I wonder if he will be loaned out to another club.
18 hours ago, Fan of Big Tone said: I can remember Tony Hackworth but I can’t for the life of me remember Antwoine Hackford.
Sounds like a tribute act!
If it's who I think it is, I've no idea how good he is as he barely touched the ball.
he might not feature much for afc wimbledon but its a good move, its one step away from the championship and if he does well enough then he will have proved they were right for signing him. he could have came here and not done much, so i think its a good move for him.
This is a sad state of affairs for this famous old Ground, that hosted matches for the 1966 World Cup & staged many famous FA Cup Semi Finals.

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More bad news for Sheffield Wednesday.

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its not looking good, i hope they manage to fix the issues but having all this over them will make playing football difficult. i wish their fans all the best.
Following on from my question of yesterday, asking would the World Be Better Off Without The Human Race? Here's another one for you .
With all the advancements in Technology , Do You Think Humans Will Ever Colonize Another Planet?
The Moon would probably be the first place, but could we Humans Go Further, beyond even our own Universe?
Will we ever be able to build Starships, could we turn Star Trek from Sci Fi into reality?
Technology is advancing at an extraordinary rate especially in AI & Robotics.
I believe that Humans will colonise other planets, but with the help of AI & Robotics.
At the moment it takes about 3 days to get to the moon. I can envisage a space ship controlled by Humanoid Robots going to the moon & building a base there within the next ten to 20 years.
Humanoid Robots will soon be able to build & maintain themselves, so I can see them being sent to the moon in large numbers to prepare a base for humans to go to extract vital minerals from the moon & return them to earth.
It takes about 7 to 10 months to travel to Mars, so I think Humanoid Robots will be used in the same way.
If atomic engines are developed, those traveling times may come down considerably & could enable travel to moons like Titan, Europa & Ganymede that could support life. I still think that travel will be led by Humanoid Robots.
I think that very fast speeds in space could be possible, up to 100K per hour or even more, but I'm not sure Warp propulsion is possible, but of course, you can't rule it out.
not in my life time.
if there is any hope it will be in thousands and thousands of years time, we are only just scratching the service of space exploration. travelling fast enough to make it to a new planet, settle down and learn from the lessons of earth is going to take a lot. i dont think by 100 years we will have made much more progress than we have now, all the data that will be obtained will be from robots etc.
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Peter Sellers was a brilliant comedy actor. His films always stood out because they were full of laughs. He inspired many people over the years, and his work still feels fresh today. He’s one of those actors who never goes out of style. There’s nothing rude or offensive in his performances. Even younger viewers can enjoy them because he gets the balance just right.
Eccles Bluebottle Neddy and Major Bloodnok are in the Sahara Dessert desperate for a Drink of water. Suddenly Neddy sees a house.
A House he cry's We're Saved.
No It's a Mirage replies Bloodnok
Nonsense says Neddy, It's a house Eccles Bluebottle go in and see what you can find.
Alright Then says Bluebottle.
Suddenly the house Disappears. It's Gone Cry's Neddy.
I told you it was a Mirage states Bloodnok.
OOOOWWWWW Shouts Eccles.
Eccles What Happened? asks Neddy.
I Was Upstairs.
Classic Goons. God Love Spike (Eccles) Harry (Neddy) and Peter (Bloodnok and Bluebottle)
And Perhaps Bluebottle's most Famous Catchphrase.
OOWWW, YOU ROTTEN SWINE, YOU DEADED ME.
That’s pretty good, is it comparable to last year does anyone know?
I think that figure of approaching 6200 is comparable with last seasons sales. I think it will ensure that Notts will be averaging 10K crowds once again.
Season ticket sales nearing 6200 is fantastic news for Notts.
It's a clear indicator of the loyalty and enthusiasm within our fanbase. This not only helps financially but also brings an electric atmosphere to Meadow Lane. Fans play a pivotal role in the club's journey, and their support boosts the players' spirits.
Knowing that thousands are turning up week after week to back the team instils a sense of pride and responsibility amongst the squad. This is a community-driven club, and these sales figures are a testament to that fact. Let’s continue to support and drive the club forward together, making every game memorable with our extraordinary fan presence.
it does make me wonder why we extended the renewals for a second year running, and still managed to reach over 6k. i guess it could be the cost of living, but either way 6k is great to see. meadow lane should easily reach 10k on saturday home game and should be quite high midweek. i hope this starts to pay off with the coffers and sustainability the club is seeking.
With the Advancement of A.I. and Robotics, a Question to ask could Humans Live forever.? At the moment Robotic human limbs have been developed for people who have lost limbs in an accident or are born without certain limbs. Will there ever be a time in the Real World when a Person's Brain could be installed into a Android Replica of that person, with that persons memories still intact? ? The Brain would be human, but their body would be made up of Robotic parts, therefore making it possible for them to live forever. Well probably not forever as the Human Brain being organic would end up decaying and dying, but if an Android body can be built why not components to keep their brain functioning?
If things such as these become possible the Strain on the World's Resources would become unimaginable, but if Human technology advances to where they can colonize other World's perhaps the idea of living forever might become a possibility?
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Uploading your mind into a robot isn’t staying human. You lose what makes you real. As for living forever, like Freddy once said, there's no chance for us.
It’s better to live the best life you can, then die and hope rebirth is real.
You could implant my brain in a cyberman and let me live 1000 years, and yet I still wouldn't live to see Notts reach the second round of the League Cup.
i dont think anyone will live forever, unless self healing is something that happens to the evolution and even then it seems unlikely. it reminds me of the film where robin williams plays a robot that lives beyond his master, and marries into the family in the future as he chases being more human like.
Someone’s clearly having fun with the squad page. It was stuck for a while and didn’t even include Matthew Dennis. Feels like the person updating it forgot he exists.
Kellan Gordon’s been moved into midfield. That’s new. Barry Cotter’s been listed as a defender. Bit unexpected. Milai Perott’s made an appearance, nice to see the youth keeper getting a mention. Jodi Jones has shifted from forwards to midfield. Bit of a change there.
New loanee Jayden Luker isn’t listed yet. I get that they’re updating, but it’s a bit of a mess, and quite amusing to watch unfold.
https://www.nottscountyfc.co.uk/teams

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These look like the little pics that appear in apps such as Onefootball. Not very flattering up close! And should't the coaching team be on there too, or has the kit man taken over?
This season’s photos might show more of the upper body.
Those are last year’s, and I agree, they could show more of the players’ upper half, not just their faces and collars.
I wonder if the person assigned to update the Notts website has other tasks to do other than dealing with the online stuff, & social media?
This whole pre-season feels utterly flat. There is little to be excited about and the silence from the club is deafening.
Club Media
What happened? It seemed like our media team were right at the front of our progression under the brothers and offering fans many insights into the inner goings on in the club in addition to keeping us informed of developments.
Now, we have silence. No dates even mentioned for the club home shirt. The away kit was released by UoN before the club. The Alfreton friendly was barely mentioned up to the game. The cold press releases for departing players are baffling. An end of season message from the owners announced - then ignored since. Has the department been reduced in terms of manpower?
The clubs' media department and fan engagement has declined terribly.
Recruitment
Hardly inspiring, is it? Sell the clubs best attacking midfielder - no replacement. Sell the best keeper in the league - no replacement. Let the best player in the league go because you don't want to pay his wages - no replacement.
The players we have signed, whilst seeming solid-enough, aren't filling anybody with confidence. True, we've not seen them play any competitive football - so we can't judge absolutely. However, they do not replace what we've lost in terms of quality. The current squad is objectively weaker than the one that started last season - and significantly at that. We're a couple of weeks away from our first game and we haven't got a goalkeeper on the books, bar some kid released from over the river.
Then there's the injuries. We have to be a complete outlier in signing players that are currently crocked or have a history of long-term problems. Surely this costs the club financially, as the budget is spent on players that barely kick a ball.
Have we seen this many trialists since the brothers acquired the club? Not since their first season after 'little Al' left us in a pickle. It doesn't point to a team with a data driven recruitment model - it points to a team scrambling around for players.
Are we struggling to attract players? What is a factor in that - budget, head coach, head of recruitment?
CEO and Head of Recruitment
Gone are the days of Jason Turner (RIP) and his excellent communication and transparency with fans. Replaced with - who knows. Montague was lampooned by some of us fans at times, but he seems light years ahead of this new chap who comes with a dodgy reputation - and is so far living up to it.
Then there's weird goings on with Peterborough cancelling friendlies only to then play MK Franchise on the same day we were supposed to play them. Odd behind closed doors friendlies that we are not informed about.
Manager
I'm willing to give anybody a chance. Clearly Paterson impressed in the interviews or which ever metric they are applying. However, it was hardly an inspiring appointment given other options available. This isn't enough to be a downer on its own, we've appointed managers before who were not inspiring at the time - Luke Williams being one - but combined with the rest of the clouds gathering over the club, the manager appointment feels like a contributing factor.
There is a general malaise affecting the club right now - or at least it appears so from the outside. I fear for the coming season if something doesn't change quickly.
COYP
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I sincerely hope you are right about that. Recent activity suggests we are “in a good place” at the moment. A couple of decent results certainly helps enormously.
The key issues will be, how long do the new guys take to settle in, can we create and take enough chances and where will we be after 8 - 10 games. We’ll have a far better idea about how it’s all shaping up by early October.
I don’t think it’s time to worry during pre-season. I’ve seen us play well in these games before but then do badly in the actual season. And sometimes when pre-season has been rough, we’ve ended up doing better. The club feels like it’s in a good place now, and that should help us. I do think Notts fans get too worried sometimes, but this chat makes sense.
Regarding the media team, to give some perspective, it must be challenging to cope with the level of things they have to do at a professional level. I find my role here challenging, which is why I am very thankful for the help I receive so that I can focus on areas where I can get the most out of my time. I have been critical in the past, but that stems from wanting to see improvements, and I always try to ground my criticism in feedback.
One example is the production quality of some of the fan forums; as for a professional media outlet, it shouldn't capture people in the way or have people talking in the background when a board member or someone else is talking on stage.
I have no qualifications in videography, so I know I wouldn't be able to do much better, but from a professional point of view, there most certainly can be improvements.
I don't like how some fans on social media pal up to them but soon call them out; it's the same with the players. I am sure everyone involved in the club is doing their best, and I see no reason why the media team wouldn't want to communicate with fans. The quiet spells this close to pre-season could perhaps have been handled with content to fill in those spaces, but again, from my experience, there's only so much time, and unless you do a role like this, you have no idea how long it takes to do things.
This said, something is better than nothing, and I am sure the club will take it on board.
I don't personally feel that we should be worrying, not at this stage. Joe Palmer and Roberto Gagliardi need to be given time. It's fine to have your doubts, but only Palmer can really be questioned at this stage. Gagliardi can't really be the person to blame for the transfers when they are conducted by a panel.
It's fair to have concerns and to voice them; after all, it can lead to a healthy discussion.
Good morning and happy Sunday, it’s a cloudy start and rain showers are forecast for most of the day.
Yesterdays medical emergency at the match against Newport got me thinking about air ambulances and what a great job they do, it’s fantastic they are available for situations like yesterdays. I do hope the fan is ok and they make a full recovery.
I once attended a hurling fixture and was taken aback by how fast and violent it is - a great spectator sport for sure