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The third & final match of Notts County's Pre Season German tour sees them take on 4th tier club Stuttgarter Kickers on Tuesday 15th July at 6 pm. BST
Head Coach Martin Paterson will be looking to finish the tour with a good performance & a positive result to lift the spirit of the players & the fans after being defeated in their previous two friendly games.
I think Martin will want to see a composed & workmanlike performance from the lads this time. The lads will need to show plenty of energy & a steely determination to come out on top.
Martin has been talking the talk, now it's time for his team to convert that positive talk into positive action on the field of play.
I hope to see Jodi Jones get some time on the pitch & for Martin to begin to put together the team that he believes could be his strongest team available.
Our second pre-season game and the first of our European tour is upon us, so as the local boy I thought I'd open a match thread (feel free to merge if another one is scheduled)!
Darmstadt will be tough opposition - they're a solid Bundesliga 2 side and are also further along in their preparations than we are. Their new signings include centre half Patric Pfeiffer - rejoining the club after helping them to promotion to the Bundesliga during his last spell, while another man to watch is big striker Fraser Hornby, who came through the youth ranks at Northampton and Everton and has played for Scotland up to under-21 level. Expect them to play an attacking style with a high defensive line.
The home side started their pre-season with a 24-0 win against the mighty force that is SV Traisa, and at the weekend they beat Viktoria Aschaffenburg (fourth division) 4-1.
As for Notts, it'll be interesting to see which of the Alfreton trialists make the trip and whether there are any new faces. It'll also be Barry Cotter's first appearance in a Notts shirt. It'll be interesting to see how MP intends to play, but realistically it's about getting minutes in legs at this stage.
I've no idea whether there will be a live stream yet, but if they do it'll probably be on the Lilies' official YouTube page.
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9 hours ago, Piethagoram said:
This one contains an interview with Florian Kohfeldt, Darmstadt's manager. He said it was the first proper match they'd had in terms of intensity and tackling, which is a good thing (except Hinchey's tackle early on, which he felt was OTT). And he said Notts are about the level of a third division team in Germany, so a good test.
The 2nd match on Notts County's three match tour of Germany is against Bundesliga 2 side FC Kaiserslautern on Saturday 12th July at 12:30 BST at their Fritz Walter Stadium.
This match will be another tough test for Notts, but Head Coach Martin Paterson welcomes these matches against higher league opposition.
Martin believes that Kaiserslautern will be an even tougher test for Notts than Notts faced in their first match against Darmstadt & that match was tough especially in the first half.
We could see Martin play what he believes is his strongest team as his starting eleven however, I believe he will continue to give the whole squad & trialists a run out at some point in the game.
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I hope Martin Paterson isn’t just saying things to please the impatient or unrealistic fans, it might backfire and give them something to hold against him. I’m sure he wants us to compete, and of course winning is great, no one plays to lose. But you’ve got to stay grounded. I believe Notts gave it a proper go, but the quality at this level is a bit too strong right now.
Still, I’m confident that once our fitness picks up and we’re facing teams closer to our level, we’ll be alright. All this talk on the club’s socials about not having good players is really frustrating, it doesn’t reflect reality at all.
I didn’t get to watch the match on YouTube as I’d planned for reasons I won’t go into but I’m probably glad I didn’t now.
Of course the real test will begin at the start of the season when we take on teams at our level so I certainly do think there’s any need to worry at the moment.
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Sad news from Italy. Brescia are facing expulsion from the Italian Professional League system after becoming Bankrupt.
Brescia beat Notts 1:0 in the Anglo Italian Cup Final at Wembley on 20 March 1994, so we have that connection.
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A solid Serie B team that had spells in the Italian top league and featured some excellent players. Gheorghe Hagi, for example.
I hope a Phoenix club is formed.
What if Andrew Lloyd Webber played a joke on David Baddiel, just because David believed a rumour that Andrew thought he was Ben Elton? It would be quite a clever way to poke fun at the mix-up.
It’s a funny story, though.
and Andrew Lloyd Webber's brother supports Orient, though not mentioned here
His car insurance will cost a lot more when he resumes driving by at least double the amount or even more depending on the individual circumstances.The message has to get out. Don't drink and drive!!!
It’s hard to believe someone could be smiling near a court, especially when facing a driving ban. Even if the photo was taken earlier, it comes across as careless and a bit smug. I’ve never liked Paul Ince, so I’m pleased he’s been made to answer for his actions. Speeding isn’t something that can be brushed off, it puts lives at risk.
There’s no excuse for it. If anything, the length of the ban should’ve been longer to properly reflect the seriousness.
Speeding is against the law no matter who you are, so he got what was coming to him. Fame shouldn’t mean special treatment.
As for his football career, it seems like his name has done more work than his skills. He’s known more for getting jobs because of who he is, not how well he manages. That’s never a good look.
Good morning, it’s a cloudy start here and I noticed about six spots of rain on our bin so I don’t suppose that’ll fill the reservoirs. 😂
It’s a bit cooler outside but still very warm inside so the fan was on in our bedroom last night.
What’s everyone up to? Anything exciting going on in your life?
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It's rained all day here. That's the first time this spring and summer.
2 hours ago, theAnticlough said: @Fan of Big Tone, glad you enjoyed it, great idea for a getaway.
I was in the Peak District myself yesterday - did Curbar & Froggatt Edges onto The Grouse Pub. Everything excellent, despite the bad weather
The weather was certainly a bit damp yesterday @The Anti-Clough to say the least. Glad you had a nice day out though, I’ve done many a walk in that area.
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I always choose vanilla it’s my favourite flavoured ice cream. I prefer the ice cream scooped out of tubs rather than the Mr. Whippy style.
My childhood memories on the Clifton estate was eating Midland Counties ice cream
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We had a small vanilla ice cream block in wafers which were sold separately
Certainly the quality of vanilla ice creams seems to have declined over the years. The real Cornish clotted cream flavour seems to have been lost along the way in the last 10/ 15 years
Vanilla ice cream can be a bit hit and miss. A lot of it ends up tasting like cold milk, which isn’t how proper vanilla should taste when the pods are used the right way. Good vanilla has a lovely smell, and when it’s used in baking, it can taste amazing. It lifts the flavour and makes things feel richer.
Strawberry’s my favourite when it comes to ice cream. I do enjoy vanilla too, but it’s probably my third or fourth pick overall.
Alassana Jatta and Jodi Jones were both on the scoresheet as Notts beat Port Vale 3-1 in a behind-closed-doors friendly at Vale Park this afternoon.
STARTING XI: Griffiths; Bedeau, Platt, Aljofree; Palmer, Iorpenda; Gordon, Cotter; Grant, Jones; Dennis
ALSO MINUTES FOR: Trialist, Robinson, McDonald, Macari, Hinchy, Edwards, Kouhyar, Reynolds, Jarvis, Traore, Jatta
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Shame there's been no footage released from this besides a short match report it's hard to gauge how well we played. Clearly given we won there'll have been a lot more positives than negatives. And I'd be happy to see Jodi given a chance to play as one of the attacking midfielders, he's got the quality to do it.
I still don't get why it was behind closed doors though. I wonder if clubs actually lose money by putting on friendlies, given the cheaper tickets and lower attendance?
12 minutes ago, menzinho said: I still don't get why it was behind closed doors though. I wonder if clubs actually lose money by putting on friendlies, given the cheaper tickets and lower attendance?
Perhaps they thought Notts weren’t a big enough draw? As you say it might cost them money to pay stewards, staff etc.
It was a good result against a side that showed their quality last season. They may not have gone all out, but as a friendly, it’s a positive sign for Notts. Still, we’ll need to see how things go once the season kicks off before getting carried away. There’s always that bit of unknown until the real tests begin. I’m glad Jodi and Jatta played. They’re both key to how well we do, and having them involved early is a big plus.
Just got out of Hearts v Dunfermline in the Scottish League Cup. First time at Tynecastle - I wasn't expecting such a big crowd and a whopping away following, looked far more than the declared 1,500, much bigger than what we usually see at Meadow Lane.
The stadium seemed bigger, but the official capacity is just a dozen more than Meadow Lane. I was stunned to find out the attendance was only 12,940, when we regularly declare 10K+. Either they're undercounting, we're overcounting or it's some kind of optical illusion!
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Although it is not universal, a lot of clubs always count the number of season tickets sold when they publish an attendance figure for a League match. This may mean that there is a discrepancy between the actual total & the stated total.
1 hour ago, Robbie said: Although it is not universal, a lot of clubs always count the number of season tickets sold when they publish an attendance figure for a League match. This may mean that there is a discrepancy between the actual total & the stated total.
Yeah, it’s pretty clear we moved to that system under the bros. Bradford were an even more obvious case last season. I support it, it’s good for morale. If there’s no standard way of counting and declaring crowds in the EFL that’s a surprise. You’d have thought the FA would have guidelines to follow
The draw of the San Sirrel can be a bit misleading when it comes to how busy it looks. The Family Stand sometimes seems empty, but when more people sit there, it looks different, probably because fans space themselves out rather than sitting close together.
I’ve always liked traditional football grounds. You don’t see many of them now with all these new stadiums being built. A lot of the modern ones feel lifeless or have strange shapes, some even look like soup bowls. The charm of old-style grounds is getting lost.
A warm hello to you, @CryingShame. welcome to the Pride of Nottingham.
Would you be introduce yourself to our community here? It would be nice to learn a little about yourself. Welcome to PON.
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Hello and welcome to PoN from me too @CryingShame
Come on in and feel the warmth, welcome @CryingShame to this wonderful collection of Pies fans.
Hello, it would be @CryingShame if you didn't introduce yourself. Welcome to PON. If you don't support Notts, you will still be treated respectfully.
Singer Connie Francis has died at 87.
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I'm in the same boat as @TheSkipper, but it's only right to pay respect to the dead. I am sure plenty of people are saddened by her loss, and enjoyed her music. May she Rest in Peace.
Rest in Peace, Connie Francis. 💮
Connie Francis was a huge star in the late fifties and early sixties.Rest in peace Connie Francis
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Guessing MP is a bit speechless after that performance...the difference in class was enormous....itseemed like we were playing the Fword 1st 11 !!!!!!
i think its good when people can use humour to lighten the mood, its quite funny some of the things martin paterson said whilst micd up. i do really like how he comes across and i just hope he can prove to be the factor we need to compete at the top end. i think if he can get 10 to 15% more from players it would be a good start.
I don't think he would act the way he does if he wasn't just being himself. I like how he talks to the players and the way he goes about things.
If he gets angry, I don't know what he's like, so I can't really say. But if he's always calm and easy to talk to, and deals with stress well, he could be really good at motivating people. Then again, it didn’t do Sir Alex Ferguson any harm when he gave his players the hair dryer treatment.
So I've heard rumours that we played Sawyers (on trial) against Alfreton, which in my eyes would be an excellent signing. I do think that if we did, it'd see the likely end of the Connor Grant experiment.
I wanted him to suceed but I find him quite wasteful, inconsistent and goes missing far too often. Where does everyone else stand?
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I think Conor Grant is a very gifted player. Still, we need to start getting more out of him, and that might happen if he’s given a regular spot in the starting line-up, as long as his performances back it up. He’s got a sharp eye for passes, which is impressive for someone still learning the game. If Martin Paterson can help him reach his full potential, I believe more fans will start to see what he brings.
6 hours ago, YoopEyes said: In the right, balanced, team I believe he would highly useful.
I think he’d do well when drifting into attacking spaces, especially with quicker players around him. He’s clearly tidy on the ball and shows good awareness, but he does tend to vanish in spells.
There are games where he looks one of the best players out there, and it’s often when he’s finding pockets of space and linking up well. He’s clever in setting others through, but his finishing could improve, confidence would make a big difference.
I think Conor Grant goes quiet when other players like David McGoldrick stand out. He seems to do better when he gets more of the ball and starts the game well.
If he’s having an average game or finding it hard, he can go a bit unnoticed on the pitch. But even then, he can still do something that changes the game. His role this season should be more important, and I hope it is because I like what he brings to the team when he’s playing well.
Unfortunate situation for the club with Lewis Macari. All relate to before he joined the club. The club are supporting him.
How long does it usually take for the process to conclude? What are the precedents and the consequences if the charges are upheld?

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I know you can't judge too much from just one photo, but Lewis Macari does look like he’s keeping his head down. I really hope the outcome doesn’t spoil his career. It’s good to see that Notts have made a statement that suggests they’re standing by him. If Macari’s honest, maybe that will help him. Honesty should count for something, it’s better than trying to hide things or lie. Even if he’s only banned for a short while, he’ll still be a loss for us.
The photo speaks volumes to me. I’m sure it’s weighing on his mind. Young players can make daft choices. If he hasn’t repeated the mistake, I hope the FA takes that into account and doesn’t go overboard. A fine and a short ban would be fair, but it shouldn’t end his career or rule him out of the season ahead.
It’s a real shame and quite disappointing too. Everyone makes mistakes at some point, and I’m glad to see people showing kindness towards Lewis Macari. Betting can be a strong temptation, especially if someone thinks they won’t get caught. I’m not sure bans always help, depending on the situation. If it’s a habit and the bets don’t affect the game itself, I can understand and feel for the person. But if someone’s using inside knowledge or trying to fix a result, then punishment is absolutely right.
From what I can tell, Macari made a poor choice when he was younger, but seems to have stopped once his career began to move forward. I hope the FA takes a fair view and shows some understanding if the details support it.
I like Lewis Macari, but I think he needs to be honest and take whatever happens. He shouldn’t have gambled, even if he didn’t really know what he was doing at the time. It’s good he hasn’t done it since coming to our club, but he still took a big risk with his career. It won’t help us if he gets banned, even if it’s only for a short time.
I really hope he doesn’t have a gambling problem and was just being a bit silly.
Well if he can convert his inspirational words into inspirational play he has my vote.
Looking forward to seeing these new players A, B and C
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Paterson can certainly talk sense and he gives the impression that he’s fully aware of where the problems are and what solutions are required.
If this translates to improved performances and good results - happy days. I’m prepared to give him, and the new players, time to develop a style & identity.
If we are not settled and showing promise by Oct then I suspect that discontent will surface. We need a good start for many reasons. We’ll see what happens.
I’m usually more optimistic at this stage but there are some genuine concerns with the set up, all the new faces on & off the pitch and the uncertainty following the loss of Abbott, McGoldrick & Bass.
Martin Paterson seems to be off to a promising start. He speaks clearly and his training sessions look decent. It’s still early days, and he’ll learn with each match, but I don’t believe we’re far off having a team that can hold its own against the top sides in League Two.
The bond and teamwork already built in the squad should help, with just the new lads needing to settle in. If the signings are the right ones, we should have better squad depth than we had last season. That said, we still need a solid keeper and someone who can push forward through the middle, just behind the strikers.
I don’t see Notts trying to replace Alassana Jatta up front. It looks like Matthew Dennis might be taking on the role of second striker. We don’t usually go for three up top, unless Dennis is being seen as a straight swap for Junior Morias.
I think Martin Paterson is just as cool as Luke Williams, but he’s different. He talks in a way that makes you listen and pay attention. Ian Burchnall used to make me feel sleepy when he spoke. Stuart Maynard was okay, but sometimes he said the same sort of stuff and it got a bit boring.
Paterson is doing a good job, and I hope the club spends some money now. It would help the team and make things better for him.
With Alex Bass now off for a reported ‘substantial fee’, McGoldrick choosing not to stay, and Slocombe stepping into coaching, it’s left us without some big figures. No like-for-like Crowley replacement either, so you can’t help but feel we’ve taken a few steps back.
I’ve no doubt the recruitment team are hard at it, hunting down the right names to patch things up and give the squad more balance and depth. But it’s a tall order.
It might take a couple of eye-catching signings to really lift spirits and get fans believing again. The optimism’s taken a knock, and plugging gaps isn’t just about bodies, it’s about quality too.
If anyone from the club does check in on sites like PON, hopefully they realise the right signings could do wonders. It’s not just about replacing talent, it’s about showing ambition.
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Archie Mair on his way to Plymouth it looks like @lambleypie
Sonny Aljofree on his way to Notts soon
@Ash, i think jak alnwick would be a good signing but the concern is he got injured with cardiff and has missed a lot of football due to that. david button has signed for ipswich since. i looked into @TheSkipper calls and sam tickle seems very good, but it looks like hes not played for a complete season?
if notts do want three keepers, tickle could be worth the gamble and could have more potential than aidan stone. still leaving room for an experienced option.
Sam Tickle won't come to Notts. He's outside of our price range and he's Wigan main keeper. He's more likely to go Championship than League 2
Post match interview with MP was impressive.
Yes? No?
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Martin Paterson seemed very open, which I liked. He didn’t make excuses and gave clear answers to every question. It’s still early days, but I think we should all support the club and hope he can lead the squad in the right way.
I liked listening to Luke Williams because the way he spoke was really interesting and made you think. Martin Paterson is different, he talks more straight to the point and sounds like someone who really knows football and wants to learn every day.
I thought his answers were good. It would be better if the people asking the questions sometimes pushed him a bit more, not in a mean way, just so we could understand better why he was upset with Lewis Macari, and what he thought about the other players too. It would help to know if he plans to work on those mistakes in training.
i thought it was promising what i saw, i stood near the far side as you enter the ground where there was a portion of notts fans trying to make noise. we did not play it back as much, we looked to play it forward and we did not show any fear with putting the ball into areas for our players to run into something we have been afraid of doing because of the strict policy of retaining the ball. yet you can make things happen by being less routine and not as predictable. it was after the alfreton match where paterson made me feel he could win fans over. there is a long way to go and i am sure we will have a few bumps but i think if we can keep the faith it will pay off in time.
Take what I'm wildly about to account with a huge amount of salt.
So from what we've effectively taken in accounted transfers out in recent years:
Burchnall - rumoured 300k comp
Williams - rumoured 750k comp
Nemane - rumoured 250k inc Grant
Langstaff - 750k
Mahovo - undisclosed but I'd say a decent sum (lets say 150k)
Crowley - 400k
Bass - rumoured 450k
Effectively - 3m in the coffers
And In:
Jatta - 250k
Traore - 175k
Jarvis - 300k
Bass - 175k
Effectively - 900k outgoing.
With League 2 running costs, Maynard's sacking, McG's golden wage etc, we should be up at least nearly pushing a mil in the ol coffers. Hopefully this is semi ringfenced for player purchases given the model and hopefully, we've chosen what we wanted from free agents and the loan market which now gives us the time to buy effectively.
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I don’t overthink it too much, but I do like that the Reedtz brothers are happy to invest in transfers. You can’t build a proper team using only free agents, you need a few established players in the mix. I agree that spending money on a keeper shows serious intent. Some fans aren’t keen on all the loan signings, but I think that’s more about filling gaps. I expect we’ll still bring in another two or three. If there’s a fee involved, I trust it’ll be for players who add real strength to the squad.
If I had more free time, I’d look back at the previous owners to see how things have changed. It would be good to understand the progress we’ve made and show just how fortunate we are with life at Notts these days.
It’s a positive sign that we’re selling players now, rather than letting them leave for next to nothing. Some fans might still feel we’ve let players go too easily, like Macaulay Langstaff, but in my time supporting Notts, proper transfer fees have been few and far between.
With all the improvements and the effort going into match days, it’s clear that it’s not just the football bringing us together. There’s a sense of community that’s grown around the whole experience.
Ideally, I’d like to see some of the money from the Alex Bass deal used to bring in a solid goalkeeper, someone who’ll get better with time. I also think we could use a bit more threat going forward. Whether that’s a new striker or an attacking midfielder, there’s space for more quality to help push us even further.
i think it was last season when fans were concerned by the clubs losses and what debt they believe the reedtz would want. so, selling players in league two for roughly £3m does seem to be better for moving the club forward. i wonder how much the nest helps, as i think that will be a big money maker. provided we invest and keep moving forward i am happy. i think we are, and even if its slower than some might not like, i do think its important to do it the right way.
hopefully we leave some money open for january as it was mentioned in another discussion as being a time when better players are being snapped up for fees.
still i would like a keeper, attacking midfielder and a striker. two of them would be more important than the other, but if the am could play up top or the striker out wide then i would think it gives us plenty of options.
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On 16/07/2025 at 12:50, YoopEyes said: I’ve been supporting Notts for over 60 years, many of those as a season ticket holder, former Patrons Club member, Vice President and I now enjoy home games from the “prawn sandwich” section - in the Directors Suite.
It’s nice to see you back, @YoopEyes. I used to go for hospitality quite a lot, but after AH, I chose to return to sitting in the stands. I’m still in the Pavis, but I do miss the friendly staff you’d come to know over time.
Glad you’ve found your way back to PON. It’s a good place, and worth settling back into.
Welcome to the Pride of Nottingham, and hello from me @TheBlackHorse.
If you wouldn't mind sharing a brief introduction, to let us know a little about yourself this can be a good way to break the ice. I hope you enjoy being a member and taking part.
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Hello, @TheBlackHorse. Welcome to the Pride of Nottingham. I echo the sentiments about it being great to have you here amongst us. The community is always growing, and even if your time is limited please be assured that we value your input. I hope to see you online and engaging when possible.
Hi @TheBlackHorse and welcome from me too. ![]()
Hello, @TheBlackHorse. Welcome to the Pride of Nottingham. Enjoy sharing your thoughts.
The tour sounds like it was worthwhile. Martin Paterson will have seen who’s solid at the back and how the team coped against decent opposition. The results don’t mean much, sure, wins help with morale, but it’s the start of the season that really matters. Paterson should now have a clearer idea of who his top players are, and how to get more out of the rest. A 1-1 draw’s not a bad way to round off the German tour, now onto the Cardiff friendly.