Looks like they're all unemployed.

He'll soon get snapped up just like his other colleagues.

Maybe Burton.

Everything that seemed likely to turn the game in our favour came through Nick Tsaroulla. 

He was instrumental in creating opportunities and making things happen on the pitch. His contributions were key to our attacking play, and it felt like we were more dangerous whenever he was involved.

I thought David McGoldrick put a lot of effort into his performance, and for the most part, he looked the most likely to create anything noteworthy. He gave the ball away a few times, but on one instance he had won it back. He went on to win it back, I thought he played very well.

The poll is now closed. Thank you to all who have voted.

We have a clear winner this evening.

I am pleased to announce that Nick Tsaroulla is the Pride of Nottingham's Man of the Match  for his excellent performance against Barrow.

I agree that good players can make an average coach look good, & the ability of a club that can buy the best players can make an average Coach look good too.

I that's my point when it comes to the top sides in the PL.They can recruit the best players that can make Coaches like Guardiola look good.

I'm not saying that a coaches like Guardiola are bad, I'm making a point that Guardiola & his ilk would do no better with the players that are at Swansea right now than anyone else.

It Still Rankles with Me and other Magpie Fans I know, with Richard Montague Beating His Chest Declaring It will take a Massive Offer for Macca to Leave the Lane. Yeah Blah Blah Blah. I still think there's more to Macca's leaving than We Fans are being told. The whole Truth of the situation May Never Come Out. I think I heard there was an Agreement that Luke Williams wouldn't Poach any players from Notts when he went to Swansea. But I Couldn't see how such an Agreement would Stand Up in a Court of Law. Interestingly Enough Macca was full of Praise for his Head Coach at Gateshead and before William's appointment wasn't there a rumor that the Gateshead  Coach at the time was on Notts Radar? Before they settled on Luke Williams. So both the Gateshead Coach and Luke Williams got the Best out of Macca, by playing to his Strengths, while it appears the Head Coach at Millwall doesn't seem Bothered about trying to Get the Best Out Of Macca.

I also remember after Macca's Departure there was a Rumor that Leeds had flown Macca back to the UK from Millwall's Spanish training Camp to sign for them, only for him to be Loaned Straight back to the Lions for this Season. Rumors Rumors they abound some have some form of truth to them. Such has the Strong Rumor that I stated on the PON Site that Jodi could be out for up to Six weeks, which was Confirmed by the Club Days Later. We'll get the Truth of Macca's Leeds Rumor at the End of this season or maybe even January.  Because Leeds play more in the way that Macca has become used to  so is Millwall just a Stop Gap and this is  Why Macca doesn't seem to be getting a Regular Starting Spot? We'll have to wait and See.

I was upset when Macca left, but I think the Notts team have moved on now. Of course Macca's goal scoring exploits are going to be missed, however, the Notts defence is much more water tight than it was when Macca was scoring all those goals last season.

I still believe that we need another specialist striker in the January window to take the pressure off Jatta and Didzy. Hopefully Scott may return too, as soon as he feels well enough.

I think it is also incumbent on Macca to try to adapt to the way Millwall play. I am sure that he is good enough to give it a good go. 

We also have to bear in mind that Notts play a little differently to how they played when Macca was here. Notts have more emphasis on defence now, & we even see Crowley tracking back in defence, so it might not have been so easy for Macca at Notts this season.

Now I know You Young 'Un's' Will Think I'm Daft. But Once Upon A Time, a Football Team had Players called a Center Half, a Left Half and a Right Half and these Players used help out the Defense, in Particular the Center Half who used to Mark and try and Keep the Opposing Center Forward from Getting the Ball and Scoring a Goal Against his team. the other Left Half and Right Half would help out the Defense and along with a Left and a Right Full Back would form the Defensive unit along with the Goalkeeper.

Now once a member of the Defense got the ball, he would sometimes Kick the Ball straight back up the Pitch ( I Know Crazy Isn't It) while another time he would Pass the Ball to a Player called a Winger, who would take the ball along the side of the Pitch skipping past the Opponents Defenders, then he would do what was called Center the Ball he'd kick the ball High across the Penalty Box so His Team's Center Forward would Jump the Highest and Score with a Header. Other times the Winger would pass the ball to either the Inside Right or Inside Left (depending on which side of the Pitch the Winger was on) who would then have a Shot at Goal, sometimes from a Great Distance and sometimes the Winger would also have a Shot at Goal, once they were on the Edge of the Penalty Box and they would either Score a Goal or the Goal keeper would make a Save, or a Defender would get in the way and the Attackers (for that is what they were Called) shot and the Ball would hit the Defender on some part of his Body and the Ball would Bounce away from the Goal or might be Deflected into the Goal after it had Hit the Defender. So that meant the Attackers usually Scored the Goals while the Defenders stopped Attackers from scoring by tackling them, each player had a Job to do and each player did it the Attackers attacked the Goal and tried to Score while the Defenders, defended the Ball and tried to Stop the opposition scoring in their Goal. And just like Nowadays the Team who put the Ball into the Net more than the other Team were Declared the Winners, after exactly 90 minutes of Football. Not 90+4 or 90+6 or even 90+9 Minutes.  That's Just 45 minutes in Each Half, then the Game came to an End.

And that's the Truth. Honest. And No I've Not Had A Bang On The Head, it Happened just Like That.

When I started watching football there was no such thing as a "midfielder" The term "midfielder" began to be used especially after the early 1970s, when the term "half-back" fell out of use.

Before then, the goalkeeper would, 99% of the time, punt the ball as far as he could, & the same with a goal kick. 

It was after then that the continental influence took hold as far as I can see.

But getting back onto topic, do PON members think that the inverted wingback tactic is a good tactic for Notts to use especially with Jodi being out till the new year?

Interestingly, Gareth Southgate used a similar Inverted Wingback tactic  earlier this year in the European Championship.

For the inverted wingbacks I’ll say it’s not been a disaster because Tsaroulla had a good game against Barrow and likewise Gordon against Chesterfield, but it’s not exactly been a revelation either. There have been games where they have struggled too. Personally, I’m still not too sure, I think Jodi is a bit of an exception as his skill level far exceeds our other wide players and he spent his whole career playing as a right-sided attacker before he came to us.

I just can’t get past how they have to do so much more with their weaker foot at times, especially crossing. It's a lot harder to try and dribble down the wing using your weaker foot too. Being able to come inside and shoot is good, and I get that makes sense when you play inverted wingers/inside forwards but is the main role of a wingback to try and score?

Looks like the new owners are impatient for success. Why can't clubs give the Head Coach time to turn things around?

A new Head Coach will take time to settle in, & get to know his players. After he's settled in, the new Coach may not gel with his players, or the players may not like the new coaching methods.

Changing the coach is not always successful. But nowadays these owners want instant success.

I'm pleased that we have owners at Notts who don't have that mindset. Stuart Maynard start at Notts wasn't the best, but just look at Notts now.

His coaching credentials looked strong, maybe it was the recruitment that went awry?

I would think the recruitment has had a big effect; in that they bought in 23 new players this season ????

The players can probably just about remember each other’s names by now!

Hold On, Hold On. If the Team is Based in Dronfield Derbyshire. How the Hell Can they be called Sheffield FC?

The Last time I looked Sheffield was in Yorkshire. Do you Remember the HOOAH  Wimbledon Faced when they moved to Milton Keynes, and they wanted to Keep Wimbledon's Heritage and History, the same Club just a Different Name something Fans Still Rage About to the Present Day. So surely that means Sheffield FC  No Longer Exist and Notts County are the Oldest Football Club in the World? You Can't have it Both Ways, that Being Wimbledon once they moved to Milton Keynes, became MK Dons, a Club with No Footballing History, But Dronfield FC or Whatever can still class themselves Sheffield FC and still carry the Monika, of the World First Football Club, when Technically the Club Doesn't Exist.

@Wheelbarrow repair man

The Club is domestically (FA) &  internationally (FIFA) recognised as the oldest official football club, but they never became a league club because they didn't recognise the FAs football rules quickly enough to help found the Football League.

"Sheffield Football Club (Sheffield F.C.) moved to Dronfield in 2001 to have a permanent home ground. Before then, the club played on borrowed pitches, including Sandygate in Sheffield & Abbeydale Sports Club".

Source Google.

5 hours ago, Robbie said:

Sheffield FC compete in the 8th tier of the football pyramid, in the Isthmian Northeast Division one.

Here's their story on wiki. Interesting read.

It seems that their reluctance to adhere to FA rules until 1878, prevented them from being one of the founder members of the football league.

Sheffield F.C. - Wikipedia

EN.M.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

 

Notts also played under Sheffield rules in the early days. Sheffield missed out on the Football League because they stayed amateur while other clubs were (illegally) hiring professional players. In the space of about a decade they went from being one of the country's leading clubs to being on the receiving end of regular spankings from Notts and the Lancashire clubs and were in serious decline by the 1880s.

As for Dronfield, it's right outside of Sheffield, so not comparable with MK being 80 miles from Wimbledon. They're currently building a permanent home in Sheffield. I think we should arrange a friendly when it's finished. Maybe even in retro kits?

With all the international attention they get, I can't help wondering if someone very rich will try to do a Salford with them one day. We'll have to take some signage down if they do! 

@Wheelbarrow repair man

I agree we don't have the fire power this season. And Notts must vary their tactics too instead of playing out of the back constantly. 

The opposition have found a way to combat it, & Notts need to try to do things differently to keep the opposition guessing.

I also think that Dan Crowley is less effective without Jodi in the side. Jodi can create space by taking defenders with him. 

No one else is doing that at the moment although Tsaroulla did well last night & could help create more space for Crowley in future games.

I found the game a bit disjointed at times, particularly in the first half. Barrow were well-structured and capitalised on their opportunity effectively. We seemed to struggle with our precision in the final third, which prevented us from gaining momentum before the break.

However, the second half was a significant improvement. We applied more pressure, moved the ball more swiftly, and created some solid opportunities. McGoldrick's equaliser was definitely deserved, and I felt we had a chance to claim victory after that. Overall, a draw feels justifiable. It adds another point to our tally, and we continue to progress.

Cardiff City 2-2 Portsmouth

Leeds United 1-0 Watford

Bristol Rovers 1-2 Shrewsbury Town

Peterborough United 3-0 Blackpool

Fleetwood Town 2-1 Crewe Alexandra (Joker)

Tranmere Rovers 0-0 Grimsby Town

Dagenham & Redbridge 2-1 Eastleigh

Tamworth 0-0 Yeovil Town

Tuesday's results:

Cardiff City 2-0 Portsmouth
Leeds United 2-1 Watford
Bristol Rovers 1-0 Shrewsbury Town
Peterborough United 5-1 Blackpool
Fleetwood Town 0-1 Crewe Alexandra
Tranmere Rovers 0-1 Grimsby Town
Dagenham & Redbridge 2-2 Eastleigh
Tamworth 0-0 Yeovil Town

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I'm not sure we've seen this before - this week we have SEVEN joint winners with ten points each! Well done to @allardyces tash, @DonnyNotts, @Fan of Big Tone, @Megan_Elizax, @Robbie, @super_ram and @upthepies!

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This is our overall table. @super_ram moves eight points clear, while @thommo goes second and @Robbie joins the chasing group!

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There's another round coming up on Saturday, and the fixtures are already online. Go on, have a go! Thanks for playing!

10 points! I’ve found some form at last.

At the end of the day he just played around half the league games in the 2009/10 season. He was either injured or loaned out.

He wasn't a major player in that promotion year. For me he was a player mostly seen on the sidelines for Notts, and to sum up it really did not work out for him while he was at Meadow Lane.

The problem with the Munto season was that it was always going to attract those types of players. You get to drop down a league(s), play easier opposition (so yes you will look a better player) and you get paid more, quite a lot more as was the supposed case at Notts!

In a way the whole Sol Campbell saga probably put a stop to anymore players just coming for the money. But I agree with @upthepies, it is funny how Sol got all the criticism because he was essentially the first one to figure out all was not as it seemed. I guess us as fans just didn’t want to hear it…

1 hour ago, menzinho said:

I guess us as fans just didn’t want to hear it…

I think that's it in a nutshell. I remember that Guardian columnist who was onto Munto from the start getting dog's abuse as well. His "crime" was to shine a light on the project we'd all invested so much hope in. But a player leaving because he "can't settle"? Happens all the time, shame but cheerio.

Football is probably full of characters who think they're bigger than the clubs they're at, especially since many were now coached at academies of major clubs and told they were the next big thing before ending up at Crinkly Bottom Rangers AFC.

I'm all for a personal pie budget @DangerousSausage... Bring back Pukka Pies to #Notts!

The £2 Million that Fergie was paid, will add a Substantial Amount towards the Playing Budget? £2Million Really ? They'd be lucky to Buy a New Tea Lady for that Amount of Money. let alone a Half Decent Player. And it's Not the Fact that Alex Ferguson did Nothing for his money. He would of worked towards helping  bring in more Money to the Club his Legacy and his Success has a Manager would have helped Impress future would be Investors. And after all it would seem the Glazer's the Majority shareholders at the Club, were happy with Ferguson's Contributuion.

Two million wouldn't even pay the several months wages of a player that United would buy, no matter the transfer fee 

As you say @Wheelbarrow repair man Fergie would have been well worth the wages by what he would have brought into the club.

Totally agree with you @Wheelbarrow repair man This Country & the people within it, have fought against tyrants all through it's history from Queen Boudica to PM Churchill.. 

I believe that we should celebrate our history, & all those great events should be taught in our schools, so that new generations can celebrate them too.

Too much fanatical jingoism for me. Glad my secondary school taught Economic and Social History for "O" level rather than say Modern History which I believe most other schools did. 

I think that it is right that we celebrate the memory of the members of our armed forces of the past who fought & died to keep this Country free from tyrants.

Trafalgar Day is one of those days, that should never be forgotten, because it is a part of our Country's glorious past, just as Armistice day, VE day, & VJ Day is.

@Wheelbarrow repair man My cousin was 11 years older than me, she was an Everly Brothers, Dion, & Buddy Holly fan, she liked Elvis too. 

I was only four at the time, but when we visited my Aunt, my cousin, she'd put her record player on & I'd listen to all of them.

I Soon knew the words off by heart, Cathy's Clown, Bye Bye Love, Runaround Sue, Can't help falling in love, True love ways, & many more.

Ah @Robbie True Love Ways. Now that is the First Song Me and the Wife Danced to as Man & Wife. In fact it was the Missus that got me into Buddy Holly (despite the fact she's a few years younger than me) the Music of the 50's was always being played when she was living at Home and of course that Music was an influence of what she listened to growing up and even nowadays, it's the same.

My Mum was a (50s heartthrob) Guy Michell fan. We had lots of his records including, "Singing the blues", "Heartaches by the number" " My Heart Cries for you"

We had lots of Nat King Cole records too, so I was familiar with quite a few 50s singers & their songs, like Perry Como 

In my teenage years I think that why I rebelled & became a heavy rock fan. But now I like all sorts of music , even classical.

It's not a problem for us; we can give him the time he needs. I just hope he can find the inner peace to avoid feeling down over time.

Cedwyn Scott is clearly in trouble, and it’s good to see the club supporting him. We all know he is a very capable player, but he might be feeling the pressure of his own performance when things aren’t going well.

It’s encouraging that the club has reached out to him. Hopefully, with time, he will start to feel better. It’s important for a player to feel comfortable, especially when there are many eyes on the game.

Taking the time for personal development will help him improve. Everyone should welcome this support and use it to encourage himself to get better.

Everyone at the club should give him the time he needs. Some things are more important than football. Notts can bring in another striker to cover (on loan), but Cedwyn only has one life. Hope to see him back soon, enjoying life and enjoying his football!

@Robbie

No Mate You're Not Wrong. As I've said before Guardiola has never had to Struggle at any Club he's been in Charge of, they have all been Mega Rich and Top Clubs with No or very Little Opposition, in their Respective Leagues. The Guy isn't fit to Shine the Shoes of Managers like Jimmy Sirrel, Brian Clough, Dave Basset who have Got Hold of Clubs and have worked hard and taken Unfancied Clubs and have taken them to Heights that their Owners could Only Dream Of. Cloughie did it with Both Derby and Forest, Jimmy Sirrel of course with the Mighty Magpies and Dave Basset with Wimbledon.

And it seems that Phil Parkinson is Now doing a Job at Wrexham. Admittedly he has the Money, but Nowhere near the Amount that Pep has been given at City or over his Career. Plus it was Rumored last Season that should Parkinson Fail to get Wrexham Promoted,  to League 1 he'd get the Sack. Something tells Me, Pep's never had to Face That Kind of Pressure.

In an Update it would seem Guardiola will be Staying the Etihad, and Raking In his Millions. But Once he's Retired how is he going to Look back on His Career, Yes he's Won Trophies, but has most Fans have said, he's bought His Glory, he's Never Truly Had To Work For It. As you have said Yourself any Coach Worth His Salt could achieve what Pep has done with all His Billions.

Want Respect from this Notts Fan Guardiola and Others ? Go and Coach a team currently in the National League, get them Promoted take them to the Premier and win a Trophy, then you can call yourself a Proper Coach. It will Never happen of Course and Pep will look back on his Career and tell people look how Good he was with all the Trophies he's Won and Yet Even He Deep Down will know his Career is A Falsehood.

I know it won't probably happen but if Man City are guilty of most charges they are accused of & Pep has already committed himself to the club.

What if the club get lots of points deducted or even get relegated out of the PL, will he stay with City getting a transfer ban & losing most of their team due to FFP rules?

That would be a big test I think.

Pep is the least of their worries. With the money and talent they have, they should be a stronger force in the Champions League.

It's not good for football when a manager seems bigger than the club. If he decides to leave, so be it. They should be more concerned about the serious charges they are facing.

If Somebody doesn't Agree or Like What I Say, Well That's Fare Enough. It certainly doesn't bother me whether they answer my Comment with a Like, a Heart, or any of the other Emoji's which are available, or don't pass Comment at All.

It would also seem that we may have drifted Slightly Off Topic Regarding a Down Vote Button, which is the Question I originally asked and Why there isn't one on PON? My Argument for one seems to have  moved the Debate in a Different Direction and by all sense and purpose PON Members Don't think there is a need for One. Which is Fair Enough and I accept the Majority Decision with Good Grace.

I agree with @Robbie and @Chris here, a downvote button would be negative to the climate and vibe of the forum. I've seen it in Reddit too, it makes it much too easy to just downvote something you disagree with and move on. The way things are now, you can only show that you disagree with something by making a post and stating your view, and isn't that what a discussion forum is all about?

I want to hear different views (as long as they are stated respectfully of course). Unless they're disagreeing with me of course. In that case it's off to the dungeon!

I understand this is just an idea, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's good to share thoughts on topics that could help the site. I believe we should encourage healthy discussions, so I wouldn't support downvoting or disagree reactions. I would prefer to explain my reasons instead and not focus on reactions. I wouldn't want to discourage anyone or make them feel that their posts aren't valid.

The Poll is now closed.

Thank you to all who have voted.

I am pleased to announce that by popular choice, Alex Bass has been chosen as Pride of Nottingham's Man of the Match for his performance against Wimbledon.

I was desperately trying to get on after catching a train from London to Nottingham. So, I’m sorry I didn’t vote, @Robbie, but I would have voted for Alex Bass myself. 

I’m delighted for him; he’s a top goalkeeper.

That's two now for Alex Bass, which shows just how important he is to our team. Well done to him!

Aaaand the results:

Blackburn Rovers 1-0 Swansea City  
QPR 1-2 Portsmouth  
Blackpool 1-2 Barnsley  
Lincoln City 1-3 Birmingham City  
Bradford City 2-1 Gillingham
Port Vale 3-1 Fleetwood Town  
Maidenhead United 1-1 Hartlepool United  
Sutton United 1-3 Oldham Athletic

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Congrats to this round's winner @william1984!

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Overall, @super_ram remains top and the top three remain unchanged. @william1984 joins the leaders in fourth, while our biggest climber is @nottsnutter...

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The next fixtures are played on Tuesday night, so our next round is open now. Why not have a go? Thanks for playing and see you there!

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Didn't realise I'd only done 7 predictions after 3pm, came 3rd with 10 points tho

@DangerousSausage

I  Stand Corrected I think you're right and the all White Kit was for 100 years at Meadow Lane. 

I am sure, even though my memory may be going, didn't the Trews change an already agreed sponsor on a FA Cup / League Cup tie/s? Perhaps a bookmaker?

Yes, that’s true, @Piethagoram. I believe it also caused some problems, as I remember reading that we were fined for it. I think the fine was related to the sponsor rather than the actual decision, but my memory on this is a bit hazy now.

The shirts were auctioned off, and some of the players wanted to keep them. However, some of these match-worn shirts that are sold or included in sponsorship packages aren’t even worn in matches. 

I don’t see an issue with second or third kits when they are needed, but I don’t think limited edition kits should be used in League Two.

It ends with a narrow defeat, but the Notts ladies should feel proud that they ran Leafield so close and deserved a point on the play and effort they put in.

Leafield have now won 5 on the bounce and have not conceded a goal in that time. They are a top side in this league 

The Notts Ladies are getting closer to these top sides.

Notts player of the match goes to:- Millie Qaintance.

League table after today's matches. Notts in 5th place.

Football isn’t always exciting to watch, but getting the result and keeping a clean sheet against a good team are always positives, in my opinion, that shouldn't be criticised.

AFC Wimbledon came with a game plan, and I think Stuart Maynard expected them to play like that. He made some good tactical changes that helped us deal with them, but the game seemed like it was going to end in a draw. If anything, I felt relieved we didn’t concede. Defensively, we were solid, and Matty Platt was outstanding. Alex Bass played really well too.

i am pleased with the win because its a boost, it helps confidence and that alone can have a further impact on playing well. defensively i thought we were good, but needed a bit more creativity in attack. to grind out a win does seem very positive, despite wimbledon posing more of a threat. we showed our spiriting and fought for the win.

Let me say that now Tuchel has been appointed. I wish him well & if he can deliver a major international trophy, then that would be a positive development.

However, the whole point of having international tournaments is for a Country to win that tournament, with English players Managed by an English manager, or a Spanish team managed by a Spanish Manager. 

What people are forgetting is that an international team is trying to demonstrate that at that particular time, they are the best football team in the World that have been coached by the best coach in the World. It's a team effort.

It would be a great showcase for an English coach, which would benefit all English coaches in the land if an English Coach won a World Cup.

People think it's more important that the team wins, but the Head Coach/Manager is part of the team. So if England win big under Tuchel, can we really say that the England team has won big?I 'm not so sure.

And to answer the question, I think it was a done deal.

That's A Red Card. For Them Both.

the scenarios you could do with something like this, even if both contestants did not fight or foul each other. it could be very funny! the cross bar challenge is something, but its always pretty safe.

get the third choice keeper to be in the net after an obstacle course and allow fans to take a shot to win a grand prize.

I'd love us to do something like this! 

I can remember watching a few games one season, not at Notts, but at half-time a few fans got a chance to win a car. Presumably a local car-dealership was sponsoring them.

Anyway this car would be backed into one corner of the stadium, in between the stands, and the boot would be opened. From the halfway line the fans then had to hit the ball into the boot of the car to win it! Unsurprisingly no-one won it!

I think we can, but we need to be mindful of injuries because this is the biggest thing which impacts our performances. I know some fans enjoy criticising Stuart Maynard again, but he's doing well. Yes, we are defensively stronger now, but I do think compared to last season, we are weaker in the striker department, mostly due to not replacing Macaulay Langstaff. Jatta will get goals, but we can't rely on him to involve himself as other strikers might. We have to present him with a good opportunity or hope it works out.

ideally notts will start to pick up results against the top 7, but i think its more an issue with inform teams. league two is proving to be very tight, afc wimbledon might show its more "form" that is the problem rather than the position. then again, it could reveal its the top 7 that we do have problems with. i think they are games where we at least want to be drawing, as this would help when the points turn into a much crucial resource.

I think that January is a big month in the season, where teams strengthen their squad & players leave.

I think that the January transfer window will be a big window for Notts. 

We know that Notts certainly need a new specialist striker, & someone with pace on the wings.

Then there's Dan Crowley who has not yet extended his contract. Will Notts sell him in January before his contract ends?

If so Notts will need another attacking midfielder.