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When I first started watching Notts they had 11 players & 1 sub only in a game. Pitches became very poor & bare during the winter, & the tackles used to fly in too.

Players became injured but not to the extent that we see today. There could be many reasons for this.

The game is faster now, players do more running around, & they are required to employ the high press, which requires more energy which together, puts strain on ankles, knees, muscles & ligaments.

The game is a squad game now where more players are used in a game. Medical monitoring has advanced where injuries can be detected much earlier, whereas in the past players would play on with niggles & injuries undetected.

There are more games played too, compared to the past. The way the game is played has changed to, with teams employing a passing game, rather than a direct style.

Training has become more rigourous, with players required to be much fitter compared to those players in the past., hence players getting injured during training.

So is it a case that players of yesteryear were much tougher than those of today or are the increase in injuries just down to the rigours of the modern game, the way it is played, what is expected of a player now & the improvement in injury detection?

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  • It’s an interesting question, one I am unsure about what could be the cause. I do think training has become more demanding, that is a fair point, but at the same time, looking after players has improved. Pitches are much better these days, no longer resembling mud pools, but we still have awful ones like Bradford’s sandy pitch. It does make you wonder.

    Now I never saw football in the 80s or earlier but my dad usually reminds me of all these great players from back in the day and which of them he was fortunate to meet and most of these stories have one thing in common – they all met in the pub!

    Football was a totally different sport in a way, I would guess the level of fitness was on a different level and that players were rarely pushed to their limits, unlike the players of today. Players these days are like finely tuned machines, they train a lot more, they play more games and are basically pushed to their maximums.

    I think it’s also worth noting that even before players make it as professionals, they’ll have played loads of games and trained regularly in academies – again almost in the same way as pros do. I think a good few years ago there was a bit of research done by arsenal looking into why their academy players who had graduated to the first team suffered so many injuries and it was do with young players in academies effectively playing too much football. At a young age bodies aren't fully developed and picking up injuries at this time can make you more sceptical to picking up injuries again the future.

    @menzinho the point about the academies is spot on, i would agree with this having an impact on some players. i would say that there is an art to tackling, which is becoming harder to see these days. mind in the 80s i am surprised more injuries was not caused with some of the thugs on the pitch.

Of Whom am I speaking? Most PON Members will know or have an idea.

Could Notts County's Greatest Ever Manager Jimmy Sirrel  be a Success in the Modern Game?

If he was alive today do you my fellow PON Members, think the Great Jimmy Sirrel would be able to Adopt to the way the Game is Now Played and bring Promotion to the Lane? Or do you think he was a Product of the Era in which he Managed and Modern Football wouldn't be his Cup of Tea?

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  • I have no doubt Jimmy could have been a successful league manager in his time. He might even have been able to get an underdog team into the Premier League, but I think his most success would come within the EFL. He knew how to get players performing and was a strong speaker who had high expectations. He wouldn’t settle for anything less than commitment from his players. This makes me think he would be successful to a degree.

    I can see him being more of a head coach than an actual manager, and I think he would be fantastic at it. He knows what it takes to make players perform together. His hands-on approach in training should earn the respect of players. He’s knowledgeable and had a great understanding of how teams played.

    Certainly, I feel he could have adapted to be a very good head coach in modern football. To what extent? I am not sure, but I think there’s no denying the qualities that Jimmy Sirrel had.

    I think he could be a very good league manager in this day and age, football has come along way, but he had the skills when times were hard. I think the fact that money is used more freely now, and I know we paid good fees for players, but Jimmy worked with mostly what he had and added to that.

    This in my opinion would see him do well in the modern game, as he could get the best out of academy players but also use his knowledge of players to suggest who to bring in. A model like the one we currently have at Notts would allow Jimmy Sirrel to truly thrive.

    The only reason Brian Clough failed with the development of the Premier League, was solely due to his age. No doubt, a lot of past managers had the skills to do well in the modern game, they transfer over quite easily.

Kenneth Cope, died yesterday. He was one of the Stars, (Hopkirk) of the quirky TV series Randall & Hopkirk (deceased)

It was a TV drama/ Comedy series of the 60s, a mixture of drama & humour typical of these TV series in the 60s & 70s.

It was one of my favourite shows being in my early teenage years.

Did you have a favourite bygone TV series or maybe a series that's more modern?

Here's a clip from the first episode of Randall & Hopkirk after Hopkirk had become a Ghost.

 

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  • I grew up loving all comedies and sitcoms, especially things like Bewitched. I used to watch them with someone very dear, who would take breaks between working to watch certain shows at times.

    The Munsters are one of my all-time favourites.

    A while ago, probably around 2008. I was given £10 to buy a present back, I tended not to be bothered about this after my teens. The same person I mentioned previously, very stubborn when determined, wouldn't take no for an answer and insisted I at least looked. I discovered in the long-lost Herrick Watson at the top of "Chip Alley." the complete box set of The Munsters.

    £6.99 absolute bargain, I remember looking up the price on Amazon and seeing it for £12.99.

    It's now one of my most favourite box sets, which I cherish now. It's a shame the coloured antics of Batman & Robin killed The Munsters off. :(

    @Chris

    The Munsters now there's a program I enjoyed, as you have said it was the Studio who refused to produce the program in Colour helped Kill off the Series. Several attempts were made to revive it under New Titles such as The Munsters Today and show the Series in Colour, but with a different cast, but it just wasn't the same, like many reboots or spinoffs of certain Programs It Just Died The Death.

    Rob Zombie released a film a few years back. I haven't seen it, but I was 50/50 on it. The trailer looked really cheesy, but some of the scenes I did see over time did look amusing. I just don't think it could ever be the same. The Addams Family has always done well to recast the family, well maybe not the family in NetFlix's "Wednesday" but the 90s and TV series before are classic.

    Back to The Munsters, they shot the pilot in colour, but it just seemed so much better in black & white. I get how it lost some of its charm in colour; the biggest issue was the decline in ratings.

So we come to the penultimate game of the County Championship Division 1 season.

Notts are periously close to falling into the bottom two. They certainly need a good result here.

Notts will Bat first after Kent won the toss and elected to bowl.

Notts need a good start here.

Notts team below ???? 

 

Several weeks ago I wrote a Piece about the Magpie, the Bird which now adorns the Club Badge of our Favourite Football Club Notts County. That topic touched on the Famous Rhyme about the Magpie, the Birds habits and it's life in General. In this second part I'm going to delve deeper in the Rhyme.

One for Sorrow the title of the rhyme was originally much shorter and in areas where Magpie numbers were scarcer the Rhyme was said of other birds, such as Crows,( the Bird family which the Magpie is apart of) there were only seven and not 10 ten parts of the Rhyme. In a supplement by written by Samuel Johnson and George Stephens about the plays of William Shakespeare in1778  the  One for Sorrow was even shorter, being One for Sorrow, Two for Mirth, Three for a Wedding, Four for Death.

Interestingly there have been similar  Rhymes such as Once a Wish Twice a Kiss, Threes a letter Four is something better, however this Rhyme was based on how many times a Person Sneezed. The One for Sorrow Rhyme didn't appear in print until the 18th Century. In the 16th and 17th Centuries the Rhyme came more to the fore during the Witch hunts of that Era. This was because the Magpie who is an highly Intelligent Bird and people believed the Magpie was thought to be Witches or their Familiar in Disguise.

The Plumage of the Magpie was also a problem. With the White being for Purity and Holiness, while the Black marking stood for Evil  and the Devil which Corrupted the Good White markings. It as also been stated the Magpie never entered Noah's Ark instead in sat on it's roof laughing at the World as it Drowned. In Scottish Folk Law every Magpie is considered Evil and it was Declared every Magpie carried a Drop of the Devil's Blood under it's Tongue. Finally when the Magpie Rhyme came into print in the 1800's  along with the first 7 parts, 8, 9 and 10 were added. Eight for Heaven, Nine for Hell and Ten for the Devil's Own Self.

Yet another shorter version read One for Anger, Two for Mirth, Three for a Wedding, Four for a Birth, Five for Rich, Six for Poor, Seven for a Witch I can tell you No More. To counter the curse of a Single Magpie (I stated this in my first piece0 Is to Spit on the ground or say Good Morning Mr Magpie how are the wife and kids, thus giving the impression of more than one Magpie and his Bad Luck. The Final way to end a Single Magpie's Bad Luck Curse, is to make the sign of the Cross and say I Cross the Magpie, the Magpie Crosses Me, Bad Luck to the Magpie, Good Luck to Me.

Well there you have it part Two of the Much Maligned Magpie. Still Going To Follow Notts With Their Evil Bird Badge?????

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  • It would seem many types of Bird are associated with Bad Omens and Death. Even the humble Pigeon. It's said in some Cultures that if a Pigeon lands on the Roof of your dwelling and starts it's Ruh-ruh-ruh call it's the sign of ill luck or Death approaching. Owls have also been tared with the Death Brush, but this is mainly due to their Hunting at Dusk and towards Night time. Some Owls also Roost in the Trees of Cemeteries and their calls are said to call up the Spirits of the Dead. 

    In Medieval Europe Crows and Ravens were omens of Death and were believed to be Messengers between the Living and the Dead. And yet in Norse Mythology the All Father Odin Chief amongst the Norse Gods had two Ravens Huginn (Thought) and Muninn (Memory) who flew round the World of Man and listened to his talk and told Odin of Man's worries and with this information the God could help Man to Learn and Grow.

    It's also been Stated that should you find a Dead Bird in your Garden that is also a Sign of Bad Luck or Death. Thankfully we now live in a more informed World and these Superstitions  are put aside by Most People.

    i remember hearing that crows were meant to steal souls. i dont know much else, never really looked into it but i have heard many people claim it.

    this is different, but its the only thing i can find. i have heard this version to, but i do remember reading a story in a book of horror tales where it said not to trust them with your soul.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/WhiteWolfRPG/comments/h97b2k/people_once_believed_that_when_someone_dies_a/

    @liampie

    The Crow is also a Bird associated with Death and in some cultures it accompanies their Death Icons. Charon the Boatman who ferries the Souls of the Dead across the River Styx has a Crow. As does the Morrigu an heavily Vailed Old Woman (to cover her Rotting Flesh), who Grants wishes, but be careful what you wish for, because it is said she Grants wishes but takes the words literally. For example it is said a young wife lost her Loving husband in an accident, heart broken she asked the Morrigu to return her husband to her as he was before he died. This the Morrigu granted however when the Husband came back to life, it was just before he died, and he spent his time Screaming and Crying out in Agony from the pain of his injuries which caused his Death.

    There was of course the Film the Crow, where Brandon Lee (Son of Martial Arts Expert and Film Star Bruce Lee) was accidently Killed on the Film's set. And there is a Native American Tribe Called the Crow People, who's name when Translated from their Language means, the People of the Big Beaked Bird.

One of the best players that every played for Notts.

He was a leader, he was influential, he was a role model he bossed our midfield, he scored goals. Every Notts side was built around him.

He was loyal. He left for pastures new, but he came back.

He played in all four divisions for Notts. He's an Icon, & a Notts County great.

 

 

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  • @liampie Dixie only played 9 times for us that season. According to Wiki he was out with injuries. If he had been fully fit I'm sure he would have played a lot more times & scored many goals for us in the Third Division South.

    Dean scored 3 goals in Notts's first six matches.

    He was probably past his best when he ended up here, but it was good to have his name connected with the club, even in passing. He sounded like a true hero for Everton. Scoring 377 goals during a career is a huge amount of goals.

    4 hours ago, Robbie said:

    @liampie Dixie only played 9 times for us that season. According to Wiki he was out with injuries. If he had been fully fit I'm sure he would have played a lot more times & scored many goals for us in the Third Division South.

    Dean scored 3 goals in Notts's first six matches.

    it would have been the twlight of his career probably, so just to see us sign him its a good thing. its a shame he had injuries, i can imagine in them days playing on when having a knock made things worse and you could not afford to miss a game.

On this day in 1964 Goldfinger was released.

What is your favourite James Bond Movie?

Who is your favourite James Bond?

 

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  • @Wheelbarrow repair man

    Getting back to the serious side, lots of films now feature the action hero.

    Gerard Butler films such as "Olympus has fallen", "London has fallen", & the modern Mission impossible franchise have all kind of copied the James Bond scenario.

    Now these type of films are just trying to out do each other for spectacular action shots & quick action.

    But there is a lack of character with the hero of the film, lack of a story line.

    The Die hard films went the same way, with the first one being the best, with Alan Rickman playing the classic baddie

    That's my take anyway.

    How about going back to the original Bond films with character actors & a storyline you can follow.

    I need to watch them all again as an adult, the older ones I haven't seen all since I was a young teen. I remember when I was young, thinking Papa Shango was the same character from a James Bond film, who wrestled for the WWF (now WWE).

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    It turns out, the gimmick is based on Baron Samedi.

    I really liked the film the character was in, but honestly, I wouldn't be able to say which one it was. I know, Richard Kiel played Jaws in 'The Spy That Loved Me' and 'Moonraker', I very loosely remember them.

    I wasn't a huge fan of Daniel Craig, but the films he's been in have grown on me.

    never seen any of them, i might have seen clips and bits but never watched one all the way through. i used to find watching films for long periods hard if the subject was not something i really liked. a secret agent is not quite my thing, but i will give them a watch at some point.

Please join me and wish @CliftonMagpie a very happy birthday. 

I hope your recent injury doesn't hamper any celebrations, Come on hop to it everyone,

My stand out #22 Reece Welch, on loan from Everton

https://www.fgrsc.com/the-fgr-squad/

So who's your Notts Man of the match against Bromley today?

Give your short list then your winner.

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@super_ram @Fan of Big Tone

Good luck to Junior. Hope he gets plenty of game time.

 

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  • He’s out on loan until January. He could continue to score and end up being given another chance under Stuart Maynard, who doesn’t always stick to playing based on how long they’ve been at the club or if they are friends. He could be given a chance, as I think Junior Morias would have asked to go out on loan. Otherwise, why wasn’t he put on the transfer list along with Will Randall, Aidan Stone, and Connell Rawlinson?

    It also begs the question, why wasn’t a mutual release clause agreed if he wanted regular football?

    We won’t know, but I wouldn’t rule it out.

    Junior scored 10 goals in 45 appearances for Peterborough in League 1 in 2017/18.

    He helped Peterborough to a reasonable top half of the table finish.

    Has he been given a reasonable opportunity at Notts? The answer has to be a no unfortunately.

It's almost time until the proper football resumes again but over the pre-season it’s very easy to sometimes just get wrapped up in perceived negatives after losing a few friendlies and equally it’s easy to get carried away with the excitement of all the new signings.

So what are your biggest reasons to be hopeful about next season and equally what is giving you cause for concern? You can have as many points as you like – but just try to balance every negative point with a positive one too! - No massive lists of just negatives, plenty of that on social media ????‍????

So here are mine to kick us off!

Reasons to be concerned:
1. Losing an amazing goal scorer in Macca
2. An injury hampered pre-season could result in a slow start
3. Our attacking wingbacks may still leave the new defenders with a lot of work to do

Reasons to be hopeful:
1. We’ve added 4 dominate centre backs who should make us better defensively
2. Jatta looking very sharp over pre-season and he’ll be even more settled now
3. Palmer and Robbo as a midfield pairing ????

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  • I’ve only been watching for a few games, but I think things are going well. Defensively, we’re getting better, and our team looks strong in every area. I’m worried about the fans who don’t like Stuart Maynard. They’re negative and create a bad atmosphere. I think they’d still be negative even if we were top of the league.

    A good friend has access to the Opta stats

    Expected points after the Bromley win, would see Notts finishing 3rd, Doncaster would be 2nd, Walsall league winners.

    Although we have improved our defence, vis a vis last season,  the stats still indicate we have a mid table defence. This could be down to the way we play, like the keeper not executing the perfect pivot pass, which we get punished for.

     

     

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I've told the joke my Family Tree only goes back three Generations, because my Grandad was a Lumberjack. However after watching Who Do You Think You Are? I thought wouldn't it be interesting, to find out about my Family Tree. So to that End I employed a Genealogist, one Doctor Tom Cobblers who came up with the Following Interesting Facts about, some of my Ancestors. I had nothing to do with any of these facts about my Family Tree, so the Work described here is all Cobblers.

1066. One of my Ancestors was first on the scene when King Harold Got an Arrow in his eye. His advice to the King ? Keep blinking 'H' it'll work it's way out.

During the War with Napoleon, one of my Ancestors was on a Ship which was captured by the French. The Emperor himself questioned the Crew. He declared that the British should surrender and let him rule Britain  because he would beat any British Force. To which my Ancestor became the first person to use the term Oh Yeah, You And Who's Army?

That same Ancestor remained a French P.O.W  for a few years, and in fact married a French Woman. Their eldest Son became a Famous French Chef, who invented Gravy. I found this very interesting. Really I said one of my Ancestors invented Gravy. Oh Yes said Dr Cobblers I'm sure you've heard of the Count of Monte Bisto.

On my Mother's side there is Scottish ancestry and one of her Ancestors emigrated to America, where he became a Famous Red Indian Fighter. Hawkeye the Nu.

This last Fact I find the most Interesting. Have you heard about the Football Match which took place between English and German Soldiers on Christmas Day 1914, during World War I ?

The Final Score was 1-1. However my Great Grandad thought he had scored a late Winner only for it to be disallowed, just before the Big Guns started firing again. He swore till his Dying Day he wasn't Off Side claiming there were at least Two German  Soldier Defenders Level With Him.

Well there you have it my fellow PON Members,, if you're thinking about doing your Family Tree, go ahead and Do It, you can find out some interesting things about Your Past.

 

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  • 56 minutes ago, Wheelbarrow repair man said:

    @Chris

    The Topic I've written is meant to be just for a laugh, on a Serious Note I've in the past traced my Family Tree, well branches of it I've only done my direct line (excluding Aunts and Uncles and Brothers and Sisters and their Partners and children e.tc) Because that takes up one hell of a time. There is some truth in the above jokey Family Tree that being, my Mum does have Scottish Ancestry (Not sure about Red Indian Fighters).

    Aye, I got that.

    I didn't have anything to add, other than I do think looking up your family tree for real can be interesting.

    @liampie

    Nah I'm Sorry Mate You Got It All Wrong. Queen Elizabeth I  (for it was she who gave permission for English, Not the UK, for the UK was still made up of the independent Nations of England Scotland and Ireland. Wales was considered part of England ) Sailors to capture Spanish Ships and return their cargo to England, where the Crown took a percentage of their Booty/Loot. The Queen stated they were in fact Buccaneers ( which sounds much Nicer Than Pirates???? don't yer think?)

    @liampie

    @Wheelbarrow repair man

    The Spanish were stealing treasures from the indigenous people of central America & the West Indies such as the Aztecs & the Incas in central America 

    During this period the Spanish were basically at War with England, remember the Armada.

    Stolen treasure was being brought to Spain to finance the Spanish military to threaten England.

    Privateers were under the Queens Commission & some of them were commissioned to attack Spanish commerce to prevent that treasure getting to Spain.

    Famous English privateers were 

    Sir John Hawkins

    Sir Francis Drake

    Sir Martin Frobisher 

    Sir Richard Grenville 

    Grenville died a hero in 1591 fighting the Spanish fleet despite overwhelming odds so English ships could escape.

    These Privateers were not pirates in the literal sense, they were an important part of the English Navy at the time 

    You have to remember that the French, Dutch and later the Americans had privateers too.

    American privateers attacked British shipping during the American revolution.

    A famous American Privateer was John Paul Jones.

Game 6 - The Ravens (A)

Team: Bromley FC

Date: 14/09/2024

Where: Hayes Lane



What line-up should Stuart Maynard opt for? What will be the key areas for the Magpies to get a victory? What do you think the final score will be?

Have your say below, join in with the Pride of Nottingham match discussion.

It's Matchday at Coronation Park Eastwood.

Notts FA County Cup 

 

Did you know, one substitution for an injured player was allowed in English league football for the first time, from the beginning of the 1965/66 season?

Goalkeeper Mick Rose, who  made 109 appearances for Notts between 1967 &1970, became the first ever player to be substituted for an injury sustained in a match (21/08/65) when he played for Charlton.

He was replaced by Keith Peacock who became the first substitute to replace an injured player.

Only injured players were allowed to be substituted during the first two seasons following the  introduction of substitutions.

But it became apparent, that some players were feigning injury so a tactical substitution could be made.

The authorities caught on, and from the start of the 1967/68 season, the rule was changed to allow a substitution either for an injury, or for tactical reasons.

It's time to polish your crystal ball again - these matches all kick off at 3pm on Saturday, and don't forget your joker!

 

Sheffield Wednesday v QPR

Swansea City v Norwich City

Bolton Wanderers v Huddersfield Town

Rotherham United v Burton Albion

Carlisle United v Fleetwood Town

Port Vale v Chesterfield

Southend United v Sutton United

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